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banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Dec-02, 12:47 PM
http://www.trektoday.com/news/011205_01.shtml

the return of Captain Picard??? I say that TNG needs a proper send off...YES PLEASE

captain swoop
2005-Dec-02, 02:25 PM
This is then, some previously unknown use of the word 'good'?

turbo-1
2005-Dec-02, 03:36 PM
I believe the OP is teasing us with some urban slang. Ex: that is one BAD ride, dude!

John M. Dollan
2005-Dec-02, 03:59 PM
Well, depending on who would actually direct the movie, this could well be a good thing.

The problem is, of course, that a film with closure would almost neccessarily mean some pretty definite wrap-ups for characters, and that I can guarnatee the fans would not like.

Frankly, I think anything that has to do with the Trek franchise, for the foreseeable future, is going to be steeped in a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

...John...

novaderrik
2005-Dec-02, 08:13 PM
i suppose they have to show Riker and Troi settle down and have a few kids, and show the "new" Data android learning stuff.
maybe the new Data can babysit the Riker/troi offspring, and in the process, the kid can get out and start a major interstellar war.
and from there, it only gets funnier..

by the way, i liked Nemesis. it was a pretty bleak film with some really good parts in it. but, then again, it did have a dune buggy, so not all was good.

Charly
2005-Dec-02, 11:44 PM
TNG characters are the lamest ever. Take Picard and Data out, and you have Voyager minus Seven and the Doctor.

Wipe them out.... All of them.

James_Digriz
2005-Dec-02, 11:55 PM
This is then, some previously unknown use of the word 'good'?

Nice Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy reference.

Doodler
2005-Dec-03, 03:04 AM
Well, this should be interesting, depending on how closely they abide by the books following Nemesis, which have been incredibly consistent in continuity since then. Seems like the writers at the core of Star Trek's novels might have learned the lessons Braga and Berman failed to and started working on closing some of the plot holes going forward. The new series based on the USS Titan are pretty interesting, including the final closure of a few of the gaps left with the Romulans at the end of Nemesis.

There are always possibilities, if by some miracle, the writers and producers managed to hit one out of the ballpark with another good (in the traditional sense of the word) movie, they could get the old girl past her darker days.

novaderrik
2005-Dec-03, 07:12 AM
they need to make another "Wrath of Khan" type movie. but i guess maybe the Picard clone in Nemesis was supposed to be the TNG version of Khan.

Wolverine
2005-Dec-03, 07:36 AM
Stewart's X-Men 3 is scheduled to open in May of 2006.

Yay!

novaderrik
2005-Dec-03, 08:19 AM
hmm.. i just thought of something..
who would win a battle between the X men and the Enterprise E?
who would be the better leader- Picard or Prof X..
if nothing else, it would be fun to see Wolverine cut Worf to shreds...

Wolverine
2005-Dec-03, 08:50 AM
Hey, I have nothing against Worf...

parallaxicality
2005-Dec-03, 09:47 AM
The only way to send off TNG is to tie it into its first and last episodes, and finally resolve the strange relationship between Picard, Q and Guinan, and lay to rest whatever the hell the Q actually have planned for humanity.

Van Rijn
2005-Dec-03, 12:26 PM
if nothing else, it would be fun to see Wolverine cut Worf to shreds...


Wolverine is standing 15 feet from Worf, extends his claws, yells, and makes slashing motions in a display of power.

Worf briefly glances at his nearby Batliff, rolls his eyes, raises his phaser and vaporizes Wolverine.

:razz:

Moose
2005-Dec-03, 04:19 PM
After a few hours, Worf's phaser no longer has enough power to heat a cup of Earl Gray, let alone bother Wolverine.

Wolverine gets up yet again, looking bored.

Data offers to read the dictionary to Worf, with special attention to the definition of the word 'regeneration'.

Worf sulks.

banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Dec-03, 06:01 PM
The only way to send off TNG is to tie it into its first and last episodes, and finally resolve the strange relationship between Picard, Q and Guinan, and lay to rest whatever the hell the Q actually have planned for humanity.


nice idea

novaderrik
2005-Dec-03, 09:58 PM
After a few hours, Worf's phaser no longer has enough power to heat a cup of Earl Gray, let alone bother Wolverine.

Wolverine gets up yet again, looking bored.

Data offers to read the dictionary to Worf, with special attention to the definition of the word 'regeneration'.

Worf sulks.


way to take it and run with it. that's kind of the way i was thinking it would go down when i thought of it, except Data is "dead" now, just like Spock was "dead" after Wrath of Khan. so it would be Giordi reading him the definition of "regeneration" instead, and explaining to him how the graviton flux in Wolverines Adamantium skeleton affects the subspace continuum, thus allowing him to regenerate...

Van Rijn
2005-Dec-04, 02:20 AM
After a few hours, Worf's phaser no longer has enough power to heat a cup of Earl Gray, let alone bother Wolverine.

Wolverine gets up yet again, looking bored.

Data offers to read the dictionary to Worf, with special attention to the definition of the word 'regeneration'.

Worf sulks.

Okay, perhaps I don't know enough about the character but, powerful as his regeneration capability is, I didn't think he could reform from a vapor cloud. That's why Worf vaporized him, rather than merely put a hole in him or stun him (I would assume he would be extremely resistant to stunning). Is there a reference where Wolverine devaporized? (It doesn't seem reasonable, but then, that's no real limit in the comic pages.)

Moose
2005-Dec-04, 03:17 AM
Okay, perhaps I don't know enough about the character but, powerful as his regeneration capability is, I didn't think he could reform from a vapor cloud. That's why Worf vaporized him, rather than merely put a hole in him or stun him (I would assume he would be extremely resistant to stunning). Is there a reference where Wolverine devaporized? (It doesn't seem reasonable, but then, that's no real limit in the comic pages.)

Heh. The (second) movie had him regenerate from a head shot. The bullet obviously didn't hit adamantium skullplate as it hadn't deformed. Even a little.

From there, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he'd be able to eat a phaser blast (even a "level 16 blah blah blah"). Wolverine will survive anything so long as the plot demands it, even having his component molecules scattered about the room.

Glom
2005-Dec-04, 06:55 PM
Good news? The only good news could be that Voyager was just a dream. (Enterprise doesn't count because that was a nightmare!)

Swift
2005-Dec-05, 05:40 PM
Good news? The only good news could be that Voyager was just a dream. (Enterprise doesn't count because that was a nightmare!)
So what, Kirk wakes up in bed with Susan Pleshette, dressed as a Andorian slave girl, and realizes that the rest was just a dream? :eh:

:p

Parrothead
2005-Dec-05, 07:51 PM
What happens if they get Braga to write it, now that Threshold has been axed? ;) (ducking and running)

Moose
2005-Dec-05, 08:30 PM
*sits up bolt upright in bed, sweating profusely* Ack! NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooo!!!!

Whew! I just had this terrible dream with the scariest thought ever. It was my worst nightmare come to life. You were there, and you, and you were there too!


What happens if they get Braga to write it, now that Threshold has been axed? ;) (ducking and running)

Ack! NOOOOOOOooooooooooo!!!!111eleven

Peteman
2005-Dec-05, 09:25 PM
What happens if they get Braga to write it, now that Threshold has been axed? ;) (ducking and running)

Don't worry, I'm sure there is a rabid Trek Fan that has hired a professional hit man to deal with that situation.

Gemini
2005-Dec-05, 11:17 PM
Braga:Aggravated fans, I have decided to do another trek film.........

Crowd:click,click,click, click,click,A drumroll is heard

Executioner:"Ready, Aim, Fire!"

Swift
2005-Dec-05, 11:24 PM
More like "Ready, Aim, YAWN"
;)

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-06, 12:21 AM
Don't worry, I'm sure there is a rabid Trek Fan that has hired a professional hit man to deal with that situation.
:shifty:

Van Rijn
2005-Dec-06, 01:14 AM
Braga:Aggravated fans, I have decided to do another trek film.........

Crowd:click,click,click, click,click,A drumroll is heard

Executioner:"Ready, Aim, Fire!"

Hah! Like that would work!

http://www.bautforum.com/showpost.php?p=604130&postcount=6

Gullible Jones
2005-Dec-06, 04:45 AM
You know, at this point, the only good news for Trek would be redoing it entirely. Sooo....

How about a series taking place in the future time period that occasionally popped up in Voyager? Make the Borg the bizarrely changed descendents of members of a colony ship, sent into the Delta Quadrant through an artificial wormhole. Get rid of the Borg Queen and the Borg habit of assimilating people. Show corruption in the Federation, and revolution brewing among the Borg.

Have characters, for once, who wouldn't be all goodie-goodie or completely evil - somewhere in the gray areas in between. Sometimes the Federation would be the good guys; sometimes the Borg; sometimes no one would have what's right and just in their mind, and sometimes the choices would all look bad, no matter how well-meaning one was.

Perhaps bring back a few old characters. Picard, more machine than man, letting his Borg side creep back to ward off death; a disgraced hero, a coward in his own eyes, regretting his decision every hour of every day, and forced to live with it. Janeway, a withered corpse barely kept alive by the machines tending her, telling her story to her children and grandchildren and wishing for the light of better days. Worf: Klingon ex-admiral, white-haired and world-weary, no longer able to deal with the Federation's web of lies, disenchanted with his life and his race. Seven of Nine, machine once more, a lonely aging starship with a human brain, roving the vast empty spaces in search of some answer and unable to decide which side she's on, which path to choose. Spock, another brain in a tank, unwilling prophet to a people who have at long last, and against all hope, abandoned all pretense of reason.

Redo the ships. No more smooth-ugly hulls and crazy Christmas-tree lights; smooth dull metal now, vast ominous dark shapes that slide through space like silent birds, sensors turning, sifting the emptiness.

Try to hire Greg Egan and Stephen Baxter and Alastair Reynolds for writing the scripts, perhaps. Get some serious science consultation. Do time-travel stories without the damn reset button. No more noise in space, no more stupid technobabble. Have new characters that people actually care about, new alien races that are scientifically pluasible without having to resort to hokey genetic seeding hypotheses, genuinely interesting and innovative plots.

But then it wouldn't be Trek, would it? The essence of Trek, after all, is and always has been pure and unadulterated cheese. If you make it worthy of serious viewing, it's not Trek any more.

banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Dec-06, 12:37 PM
this-

http://www.trektoday.com/news/051205_01.shtml

X'men's Singer to direct?

Maksutov
2005-Dec-06, 02:27 PM
So what, Kirk wakes up in bed with Susan Pleshette, dressed as a Andorian slave girl, and realizes that the rest was just a dream? :eh:

:pThat was nixed by the studio and Principal Victoria.

What actually happened was, in the mid-1960s, Gene Roddenberry woke up in bed with Nichelle Nichols and said, "Nicky, I had the most incredible dream! It might make for a TV series, or maybe even some movies! Let me describe it to you."

Four hours later Nichelle said, "Gene, lay off that stuff, it's no good for your sinuses. As for that dream, well, let me show you what dreams are made of..."

Fade out.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-07, 07:31 AM
That was nixed by the studio and Principal Victoria.

What actually happened was, in the mid-1960s, Gene Roddenberry woke up in bed with Nichelle Nichols and said, "Nicky, I had the most incredible dream! It might make for a TV series, or maybe even some movies! Let me describe it to you."

Four hours later Nichelle said, "Gene, lay off that stuff, it's no good for your sinuses. As for that dream, well, let me show you what dreams are made of..."

Fade out.
:whistle:

banquo's_bumble_puppy
2005-Dec-07, 01:01 PM
this-future up in the air?

http://www.trektoday.com/news/061205_03.shtml

CRHTO
2005-Dec-07, 05:30 PM
Yay!

A friend of mine got to be an extra on that movie and once had lunch with Patrick Stewart. They had veggie pie.

Alasdhair
2005-Dec-07, 08:45 PM
Heh. The (second) movie had him regenerate from a head shot. The bullet obviously didn't hit adamantium skullplate as it hadn't deformed. Even a little.

From there, it wouldn't surprise me at all if he'd be able to eat a phaser blast (even a "level 16 blah blah blah"). Wolverine will survive anything so long as the plot demands it, even having his component molecules scattered about the room.

Wolverine not being the most intellectual of characters can (and probably has) survive without his brain for considerable periods of time.

Grey
2005-Dec-07, 10:17 PM
Actually, I'm looking forward to Patrick Stewart in some rather different roles (http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2005/Dec05/r120705a).

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-08, 12:37 AM
Actually, I'm looking forward to Patrick Stewart in some rather different roles (http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2005/Dec05/r120705a).
OMG, You Lucky, little ...

So, Are you Gonna Go?

If So, Do you Think Patrick Stewart, Will Take Part in The Residence Part, of It?

Any Chance, you Can Get Pictures?

Maksutov
2005-Dec-08, 09:54 AM
Actually, I'm looking forward to Patrick Stewart in some rather different roles (http://www.umich.edu/news/index.html?Releases/2005/Dec05/r120705a).He seems to be having a lot of fun with his role in American Dad (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397306/).

May I have some Gatorade? I'm afraid I left all my electrolytes with your daughter.

Grey
2005-Dec-08, 04:29 PM
OMG, You Lucky, little ...

So, Are you Gonna Go?Absolutely! We went to the previous two residencies of the RSC a few years back. It was some of the most impressive theater I've seen. I'm thinking I'll have to jump fast when tickets become available, since it was pretty well packed before, when there was no "big name" (other than that of the RSC itself, of course!) associated with it.


If So, Do you Think Patrick Stewart, Will Take Part in The Residence Part, of It?

Any Chance, you Can Get Pictures?Obviously not during the performance itself. I'll bet that he will take part in the various workshops. Most of those are for people involved in the acting school, but there might be some that are open to the general public.

Tensor
2005-Dec-08, 04:41 PM
Obviously not during the performance itself. I'll bet that he will take part in the various workshops. Most of those are for people involved in the acting school, but there might be some that are open to the general public.

Hmmmm, I might be able to get some shots. I know two people in the BFA program at UM (they are friends of, and went to the preforming arts HS with, my daughter. I'll see if they can send some pictures.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-09, 05:02 AM
Hmmmm, I might be able to get some shots. I know two people in the BFA program at UM (they are friends of, and went to the preforming arts HS with, my daughter. I'll see if they can send some pictures.
<Drool>

You Lucky, Lucky, LUCKY People!!!!

Darn you ...

:lol:

Daffy
2005-Dec-09, 07:01 PM
Well, depending on who would actually direct the movie, this could well be a good thing.

The problem is, of course, that a film with closure would almost neccessarily mean some pretty definite wrap-ups for characters, and that I can guarnatee the fans would not like.

Frankly, I think anything that has to do with the Trek franchise, for the foreseeable future, is going to be steeped in a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't".

...John...

That's for sure...I saw a whole thread on the Star Trek web site devoted to arguing whether or not Picard had hair as a teenager at Starfleet Academy.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-10, 06:13 AM
That's for sure...I saw a whole thread on the Star Trek web site devoted to arguing whether or not Picard had hair as a teenager at Starfleet Academy.
Um, DUH ...

Haven't they Seen, The Two Episodes, Where Picard Inhabits, his Younger Body?

Of Course, he Had Hair!

Moose
2005-Dec-10, 01:49 PM
And I should point out that he had hair as an adult, too. In seasons 1 and 2, he was balding, not bald.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-11, 05:51 AM
And I should point out that he had hair as an adult, too. In seasons 1 and 2, he was balding, not bald.
So Was, Then-Commander Sisko ....

So, What IS, With The Bald Thing, anyway?

Do The Green Women, Prefer Bald Humans?

:lol:

Moose
2005-Dec-11, 12:52 PM
So, What IS, With The Bald Thing, anyway?

It was a late 90's thing. Better to be bald on one's own terms than to let Mama Nature hold the razor.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-11, 01:52 PM
It was a late 90's thing. Better to be bald on one's own terms than to let Mama Nature hold the razor.
So, What ....

Now Propecia, and Rogaine, Are The NEW Bald?

:eek:

SeanF
2005-Dec-12, 03:56 PM
Um, DUH ...

Haven't they Seen, The Two Episodes, Where Picard Inhabits, his Younger Body?

Of Course, he Had Hair!
Yes, but then they also saw the movie Nemesis, in which a photograph of Cadet Picard is shown bald.

Hence the debate.

:)

Daffy
2005-Dec-12, 04:09 PM
Yes, but then they also saw the movie Nemesis, in which a photograph of Cadet Picard is shown bald.

Hence the debate.

:)

Exactly...I mean, I love Star Trek (warts and all), but that's getting a little...intense, maybe?

"You, you must be almost 30... have you ever kissed a girl?"
---William Shatner, SNL 1986

Moose
2005-Dec-12, 05:41 PM
Yes, but then they also saw the movie Nemesis, in which a photograph of Cadet Picard is shown bald.

Fanboy: You will relate to me all materials concerning the movie called... Nemesis.
Moose: [Straightfaced] Nemesis? What's that? [/sf]

Doodler
2005-Dec-13, 02:38 PM
Yes, but then they also saw the movie Nemesis, in which a photograph of Cadet Picard is shown bald.

Hence the debate.

:)

I saw that, and I was wondering if its because he's bald or just shaved? Ah, Star Trek, where would you be without your plot holes.

ZaphodBeeblebrox
2005-Dec-13, 03:43 PM
I saw that, and I was wondering if its because he's bald or just shaved? Ah, Star Trek, where would you be without your plot holes.
GOOD!!!

Er, Good-Land ....

:shifty:

sarongsong
2006-May-02, 12:19 AM
Well, depending on who would actually direct the movie, this could well be a good thing...Intriguing quote from the new Mission Impossible background story:
...Rather than looking shellshocked by so many distractions, [J.J.]Abrams is eager for more of the same and just agreed to try to breathe new life into Paramount's stalled "Star Trek" movie series...Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mission1may01,1,2073369.story?coll=la-headlines-entnews&ctrack=1&cset=true)

The Backroad Astronomer
2006-May-02, 02:06 AM
As long as the do not hire one friends writers or one of the actors i am happy.

sarongsong
2006-May-02, 04:19 AM
...picturing Tom Cruise as Captain Kirk...

Van Rijn
2006-May-02, 08:09 AM
Ah, yes. Cruise just might have the hyper-intense somewhat crazed acting "skills" to pull it off.