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Lance
2005-Dec-27, 05:02 PM
Don't pop your champaign corks too soon this Saturday night. It seems the Earth has once again fallen far enough behind UTC to call for the addition of another Leap Second (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leap_second) to the clocks. The Leap Second will be added at 11:59:59 PM on 31 December, 2005 UTC.

More at: Wait a sec for leap into 2006 (http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/25/leap.second.reut/index.html)

Edited to correct the time.

SeanF
2005-Dec-27, 05:05 PM
ToSeeked (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=36314). :)

Nicolas
2005-Dec-27, 05:09 PM
I'm holding on to my oversized champagne cork (http://upload.talk2.nl/files/204474TD-150.jpg)!!!

Lance
2005-Dec-27, 05:09 PM
ToSeeked (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=36314). :)
I disagree.

That thread is about clocks and mine is about champaign. They are nothing alike.

Just kidding...

mickal555
2005-Dec-27, 05:11 PM
Damn...

I wanted to post a thread about this... :doh:

Y2K anyone :whistle:

HenrikOlsen
2005-Dec-27, 06:12 PM
The Leap Second will be added at 11:59:59 PM on 31 December, 2005.
You forgot to mention that it's UTC time.

Lance
2005-Dec-27, 06:40 PM
You forgot to mention that it's UTC time.

At the time, I didn't realize it was UTC. I assumed the leap second was added at 11:59:59 PM local time, in each time zone. Similar to how leap year works... My February 29th may not start the same time as your February 29th, but we both have them.

I realize now that was silly.

Candy
2005-Dec-27, 06:45 PM
stupid time zones :mad:

I will be celebrating, celebrating. :shifty:

montebianco
2005-Dec-27, 10:04 PM
stupid time zones :mad:

I will be celebrating, celebrating. :shifty:

Time zones are not at all stupid, you can celebrate the New Year in New Zealand, then fly to Honolulu and celebtrate it again...

N

LurchGS
2005-Dec-27, 10:08 PM
time zones are for people who don't communicate at the speed of electicity through copper

montebianco
2005-Dec-27, 10:12 PM
time zones are for people who don't communicate at the speed of electicity through copper

Well, nobody does that, I'm afraid - there's quite a lot of buffering that takes place...

LurchGS
2005-Dec-27, 10:15 PM
well, I figger it evens out, since so much of it also runs over fiber optic

At least, in the networks I use

montebianco
2005-Dec-27, 10:18 PM
well, I figger it evens out, since so much of it also runs over fiber optic

At least, in the networks I use

Don't know about your networks, but unless you're doing pretty short hops, I'm guessing that your effective speed is much, much slower than the speed of light :)

LurchGS
2005-Dec-27, 10:22 PM
sure - but so is the speed of electricity through copper

montebianco
2005-Dec-27, 10:24 PM
sure - but so is the speed of electricity through copper

I'm forgetting these things, but isn't the slowdown of copper vs. vacuum pretty small?

Need to start googling these things...

LurchGS
2005-Dec-27, 10:40 PM
electricity isn't light...

but I'll be darned if you aren't correct - I was confusing electrons with electricity.

http://www.jimloy.com/physics/electric.htm

bad Lurch

Krevel
2005-Dec-27, 10:55 PM
I was expecting this to be a thread on champagne cork mishaps. I have a doozie of a story if no one minds me going off-topic. (OK, I'm going to anyway.)

One year, celebrating New Year's Eve at my sister's place, we're doing the countdown, and my friend Roz has a bottle of champagne poised and ready. At the stroke of midnight we all yell "Happy New Year", and he pops the cork - BAM!! It flies up, hits the flourescent light overhead, shattering the bulbs. Of a sudden, we're all standing in the dark with broken glass all over ourselves and everything else! Boy, can that put a damper on the festivities.

So, yes, hold onto that cork!

mickal555
2005-Dec-28, 01:10 PM
It will be 9:59:59am when we get our leap second...
so how do the clocks go?
58...
59...
59...
00...

or

58...
59...
00...
00...

or

58...
59... ...
00...
and even if they do... HUH?

It's confusing me :wall:

teri tait
2005-Dec-28, 01:24 PM
stupid time zones :mad:

I will be celebrating, celebrating. :shifty:

Candy is dandy, but licking Her is much slower

teri tait
2005-Dec-28, 01:31 PM
All electricity does is keep matter in separate lumps of solid (too bad its not at free)

[Sheesh I thought everyone knew that...]

HenrikOlsen
2005-Dec-28, 02:26 PM
It will be 9:59:59am when we get our leap second...
so how do the clocks go?
58...
59...
59...
00...

or

58...
59...
00...
00...

or

58...
59... ...
00...
and even if they do... HUH?

It's confusing me :wall:
It should go:
9:59:58...
9:59:59...
9:59:60... Yes, 60!
9:59:00...
but probably won't.

mickal555
2005-Dec-28, 02:29 PM
Shouldn't it be:
9:59:58...
9:59:59...9:59:60...
10:00:00...

HenrikOlsen
2005-Dec-28, 02:35 PM
:doh:

Too much cut'n'paste, too little thought.

mickal555
2005-Dec-28, 02:42 PM
I can understand how thoose farmers felt in the 1Xth centery felt when the pope added days to the calender...

SeanF
2005-Dec-28, 02:45 PM
I can understand how thoose farmers felt in the 1Xth centery felt when the pope added days to the calender...
16th Century, and he removed days.

Caeser added days one year in the 1st Century BC, though. :)

Of course, a day is added to the calendar almost every four years. Does that bother you? :D

mickal555
2005-Dec-28, 02:49 PM
It does... but it fits better, if we alway's had 28 days in a month it would be more annoying...

HenrikOlsen
2005-Dec-28, 02:52 PM
16th Century, and he removed days.
Depends on the country, some waited all the way to the 20th.
And some made a complete mess of it, have a look at how Sweden went about it, it's the only country to have had a 30th of February.

SeanF
2005-Dec-28, 03:06 PM
Depends on the country, some waited all the way to the 20th.
And some made a complete mess of it, have a look at how Sweden went about it, it's the only country to have had a 30th of February.
They ended up with a 30th of February in a year in which they were removing days?! Or were they not switching from the Julian to the Gregorian?

What the heck did they do?

(Oh, as for some countries not switching until later, sure - England and the American Colonies didn't switch until the 18th Century - but Mickal referred to "the Pope," and that was in 1582.)

HenrikOlsen
2005-Dec-28, 03:22 PM
They decided to remove the days gradually, by not adding leapdays in all leapyears from 1700 to 1740.
This worked for the first year, 1700, but they then forgot and added them in 1704 and 1708, so in 1712 they gave up the project and added the removed day back as a second leapday so they had 30 days in february.
The real change was then done in 1753.

In general, the 16th century change only happened in catholic countries, the very fact that the pope had ordered it meant that it was unacceptable in protestant and orthodox countries.
Lithuania and Lativia where also strange, they changed in 1586 as they where under Polish rule at the time, when they got out of that rule they reverted to the Julian calendar, then didn't change back again until the 20th century.

montebianco
2005-Dec-28, 04:40 PM
Depends on the country, some waited all the way to the 20th.

Yep, thus explaining why the October revolution was in November...

farmerjumperdon
2005-Dec-28, 07:09 PM
So at 9:59:599999999999999999999999999 . . .

is it really 10 O'clock?



No lesson needed, just having fun.

Lance
2005-Dec-28, 07:15 PM
So at 9:59:599999999999999999999999999 . . .

is it really 10 O'clock?



No lesson needed, just having fun.
Almost, but not quite.

Swift
2005-Dec-28, 07:36 PM
Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?

LurchGS
2005-Dec-28, 07:37 PM
it's 25.. or 6 to 4

Hugh Jass
2005-Dec-28, 07:38 PM
uhhh... about 11?

Candy
2005-Dec-28, 09:26 PM
Does anyone really know what time it is? Does anyone really care?
Sounds like a song. :think:

LurchGS
2005-Dec-28, 09:29 PM
yer getting warmer :)

Lance
2005-Dec-28, 09:30 PM
yer getting warmer :)
Let her uncork the champaign and she'll get warmer still.

Candy
2005-Dec-28, 09:38 PM
I can hear it in my mind. Someone is yelling it. TV program? :shifty:

LurchGS
2005-Dec-28, 09:38 PM
colder

Gillianren
2005-Dec-28, 09:48 PM
Hey, Lance? It's spelled "champagne," hon.

The shifting calendar syndrome is why Washington's birthday changed during his lifetime.

Candy
2005-Dec-28, 10:26 PM
colder
I remember from "Tool Time" with Tim, the Toolman, Taylor, Heidi yells, "Does anybody know what time it is"? Perhaps, that is what I am thinking of... :think:

montebianco
2005-Dec-28, 10:27 PM
Hey, Lance? It's spelled "champagne," hon.

It is, unless he's talking about a trip to downstate Illinois...

LurchGS
2005-Dec-28, 10:28 PM
ok, I surrender, check third bullet:

http://www.chicagotheband.com/discography01.htm

and second bullet:

http://www.chicagotheband.com/discography02.htm

Swift
2005-Dec-28, 10:29 PM
Sounds like a song. :think:
Think of a particular rock group named for the transportation system of your fair city.

Candy
2005-Dec-28, 11:32 PM
Oh, dear, I even went to one of their concerts at Purdue many moons ago. :o

LurchGS
2005-Dec-28, 11:49 PM
yeah, you BETTER blush!

tsk, what IS the world coming to?

Nostradamus, ID, and people who forget that group