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tsolkas
2006-Jan-06, 12:30 PM
Relativity theory (Michelson-Morley experiment. A question.)

A

As it is know, according to the Relativity theory in experiment Michelson - Morley, we have, the formula:

δ = 2(u/c)^2 : (λ/l) (1)

where, u is the velocity of Earth arount the Sun.

But, THIS IS WRONG, because:

1) Velocity of Earth, arount (from center of mass) the Sun is, u = 30km/s
2) Velocity of Sun, arount (from center of mass) the galaxy is, u = 230km/s
3) Velocity of galaxy,arount (from center of mass) the localy cluster of galaxies is, u = 160km/s
4) Velocity of localy cluster of galaxies, arount (from center of mass) the localy super - cluster of galaxies is u = 130km/s
5) Velocity of localy super - cluster of galaxies, arount (from center of mass) the .................................................. ..........., is u = ? km/s
.................................................. ....... e.t.c............................................. .................................................. .


Consequently, in experiment Michelson - Morley on formula (1), the velocity of Earth u = 30km/s, is wrong (because, THE SUN IS NOT STATIONARY INTO UNIVERSE!!!! ).


B.

If now, relative to a stationary inertial frame of reference O. XYZ (e.g for a stationary Ether of the Universe, see Maxwell, Michelson - Morley, e.t.c). are:

1) Velocity of Earth, u1 (vector)
2) Velocity of Sun, u2 (vector)
3) Velocity of galaxy, u3 (vector)
4) Velocity of localy cluster of galaxies, u4 (vector)
5) Velocity of localy super - cluster of galaxies, u5 (vector)
.................................................. ..........e.t.c................................... .................................................. ...........

and e.g , we have :


u1(vector) = u2(vector) + u3(vector) + u4(vector) + u5(vector) + ........................


then, the negative result δ = 0, (formula (1), by experiment Michelson - Morley, IS RIGHT and the Ether exists in nature!!!!!

Please. who is the your answer?

rahuldandekar
2006-Jan-06, 01:55 PM
IT's just that to be completely stationary, u1 = u2 + u3 + u4 + ... = 0. Now, that may be possible for a single instant... but for that to be possible every day of the year, every day and every night, should mean that the universe always adjusts itself to give the earth zero speed. However, we cannot suppose ourselves to be in this position unless any evidence says so.

So, even if earth's velocity is zero for one minute, it will be non-zero a minute later, as everything in the universe changes orientations.

papageno
2006-Jan-06, 04:01 PM
XT,

you already tried to start another thread, without addressing any of the responses in the first thread you started.

Before you go on in this thread, I suggest you address the issues raised about your "experiment" in the first thread.

Spherical
2006-Jan-06, 04:17 PM
Relativity theory (Michelson-Morley experiment. A question.)

A

As it is know, according to the Relativity theory in experiment Michelson - Morley, we have, the formula:

δ = 2(u/c)^2 : (λ/l) (1)

where, u is the velocity of Earth arount the Sun.

But, THIS IS WRONG, because:

1) Velocity of Earth, arount (from center of mass) the Sun is, u = 30km/s
2) Velocity of Sun, arount (from center of mass) the galaxy is, u = 230km/s
3) Velocity of galaxy,arount (from center of mass) the localy cluster of galaxies is, u = 160km/s
4) Velocity of localy cluster of galaxies, arount (from center of mass) the localy super - cluster of galaxies is u = 130km/s
5) Velocity of localy super - cluster of galaxies, arount (from center of mass) the .................................................. ..........., is u = ? km/s
.................................................. ....... e.t.c............................................. .................................................. .


Consequently, in experiment Michelson - Morley on formula (1), the velocity of Earth u = 30km/s, is wrong (because, THE SUN IS NOT STATIONARY INTO UNIVERSE!!!! ).


B.

If now, relative to a stationary inertial frame of reference O. XYZ (e.g for a stationary Ether of the Universe, see Maxwell, Michelson - Morley, e.t.c). are:

1) Velocity of Earth, u1 (vector)
2) Velocity of Sun, u2 (vector)
3) Velocity of galaxy, u3 (vector)
4) Velocity of localy cluster of galaxies, u4 (vector)
5) Velocity of localy super - cluster of galaxies, u5 (vector)
.................................................. ..........e.t.c................................... .................................................. ...........

and e.g , we have :


u1(vector) = u2(vector) + u3(vector) + u4(vector) + u5(vector) + ........................


then, the negative result δ = 0, (formula (1), by experiment Michelson - Morley, IS RIGHT and the Ether exists in nature!!!!!

Please. who is the your answer?


I ran across an interesting historical fact about these experiments. Michelson left the team and took a job at another university and Morely kept working on these interferometer experiments. He built a huge interferometer at Palamor observatory. The problem was, his results were all over the map. He was never able to explain them very well and for that reason they were never accepted by all the other physicists.

Wolverine
2006-Jan-06, 04:26 PM
Before you go on in this thread, I suggest you address the issues raised about your "experiment" in the first thread.
Indeed.

tsolkas, I've already cautioned you here (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=642949#post642949), and have apprised you of our forum rules (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?p=564845#post564845).

You'll need to participate on the first thread you created (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=36511), answer other members' questions, and defend your arguments before attempting to pursue additional topics. If you ignore this warning, you will be in violation of our community's guidelines, and disciplinary action will be undertaken -- you will face the suspension or termination of your account.

Your writings boast tall claims -- it's time for you to back them up if you wish to continue posting to this forum.

Locked, for now.