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mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 06:11 PM
For some reason, windows decided to die.
It wouldn't let me log in, some files were missing or somthing... thats right blame it on me.
I trieed every thing from sytem restore to recovery disks to chanting acient aboriginne revorery corooberies. , It didn't do dick (which is ironic for windows).
I had to reistall windows, that would mean I would loose all my stuff...

Well it was to importent, all my music(which took days to import from CD's) website stuff and everything. Bah- So I used the origonal compaq CD operating system CD and reinstalled window- but Instead of reformating my hardrive I just installed another version of windows. WINDOWS2 "'enter project key'" "OK" *dismantles house looking for key.* "hmmm" turns out to be on the bottom of computer- "Yeah that's real handy" *copies in Product key*

10minitus later...
"invalid key"
20 mintus later after rechecking and straigting out errors.
"invalid key"
&((*@***++??###~!#*

*works out that for some reason I have/had an XP home edition on my computer, and I'm halfway through an XP professional install. *Tries to exit install. Can't. Cuts power. Gets dogey copy of XP professional. Installs* Works fine, I have a blank desktop.
&((*@*""*`~*++??~!#*
Thank god the internet is still working, I download firefox- there is much rejoicing.

I found that my old User account is still there- So I just copy all the files over to my new user account- destop and all that is restored. Except a couple of files didn't move without rename and were in use so I could replace them...
My installed programs are all gone- well they are here in program files- but I can't use them. Except for a few real simple ones.
&((*@***+==++][+??~!#*

I've lost dreamweaver... :(
I need that- I'm too lazy to code myself...
And "windows messenger" is back
Where's msn messenger...
Windows installed some updates, I started to download some stuff, windows finished update and wants to rebort. "**** of, I'm busy", I go and have a shower while files download. Come back and find windows rebooted
&((*@***++??~!#*%%&!!

Cursed thing.
I used to say I liked windows- I am now a windows hater, but I have to use it cause I can't run things I want to in linux...

HenrikOlsen
2006-Jan-10, 06:16 PM
I trieed every thing from sytem restore to recovery disks to chanting acient aboriginne revorery corooberies. , It didn't do dick (which is ironic for windows).
You forgot to light a black candle and put a can of pig's trotters on top of the cabinet while doing so.

Apart from that, been there, lost that.
There's a reason why 6 of the 7 machines I have at home are running Linux, the last one's only used for gaming.

NEOWatcher
2006-Jan-10, 06:20 PM
Gay? You mean happy? Windows is only as happy as you make it. (any other meaning, and you might offend someone)

The_Radiation_Specialist
2006-Jan-10, 06:28 PM
I happen to know some Aussies and I know perfectly well what they mean by the word "gay". ;)

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 06:30 PM
Gay? You mean happy? Windows is only as happy as you make it. (any other meaning, and you might offend someone)

Angels and ministers of grace defend us from the thin skinned... Not the best choice of words, but I imagine he's more than a bit worked up at the moment.

An edit would probably be advisable, though.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2006-Jan-10, 06:33 PM
An edit would probably be advisable, though.
I thought you cant edit the title. Only a moderator can do that. Or?

Bob
2006-Jan-10, 06:36 PM
Not that there's anything wrong with that.

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 06:37 PM
I think Gay was ok... at the time, considering I was thinking of languange that would make penn & teller blush.
If a mod edits the title that would probobly be good though.
Somthing like
Windows is an evil writhing steaming heap of dumdum head mucas mush, or something.

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 06:38 PM
I thought you cant edit the title. Only a moderator can do that. Or?

I thought we could do it, but I think there was a recent case where ToSeek had to be called in when BBP couldn't change it.

NEOWatcher
2006-Jan-10, 06:40 PM
Windows is a great writhing steaming heap of dumdum head, or something.
That sounds more acceptable. (and more accurate)
Windows is great as long as nothing changes...
Hope this:wall: stops soon, I think many of us have been there.

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 06:42 PM
Seems like I can change the post title but not the thread title...
Mo,oooooooooooooooooooods can you change it to "Windows is [explecitive deleted]^googolplex":o

The_Radiation_Specialist
2006-Jan-10, 06:47 PM
"Windows is [explecitive deleted]^googolplex"
:clap:

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 07:00 PM
You forgot to light a black candle and put a can of pig's trotters on top of the cabinet while doing so.



Nah I did that- It's a pretty standard procedure though, there's a lot I didn't mentian...

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 07:02 PM
ooo

Toseek is viewing now...

ToSeek
2006-Jan-10, 07:02 PM
Seems like I can change the post title but not the thread title...
Mo,oooooooooooooooooooods can you change it to "Windows is [explecitive deleted]^googolplex":o

For a suitable emolument....

(No extra charge for correct spelling. ;) )

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 07:03 PM
heh

Thanks Toseek :D

ToSeek
2006-Jan-10, 08:12 PM
It's what I live for....

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 08:52 PM
Big hug for Mickal who seems not to be having the best time ever lately!


(I'm just posting this so I stay ahead of him :D)
(no that's just not true :))



*******
I have problems with the Office shortcut bar lately. It won't automatically start, or it starts twice at windows startup...
I tried everything, including changing the registry, I checked my startup folder, but all seems to be OK.

I also have a problem with the auto arm of AntiVir at windows startup because Windows automatically signs me in, which AntiVir does not seem to like :).

mickal555
2006-Jan-10, 09:01 PM
Yes- I've also got an ingrown toenail that's all yuck...
Ah well you get your good weeks you get your bad weeks

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 09:10 PM
More like good days and bad days in my case, but indeed bad luck seems to prefer flocklike behaviour...

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 09:15 PM
More like good days and bad days in my case, but indeed bad luck seems to prefer flocklike behaviour...

Yeah, tell me about it. I just had my own double whammy. I put the car I've been driving in for service this morning after not being able to rent a stand in because the one company that takes debit cards around here was sold out. Well, turns out it was the one piece of silver in the cloud, because had I rented the car, I would not be able to afford the $1600 in repairs that had to be done... To complete the traditional trifecta, the car won't be ready till tomorrow afternoon, leaving me stuck bumming a ride home, a ride into work tomorrow, and a ride to the dealership.

Fun fun fun.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 09:20 PM
You know, let's all hug each other, it will probably get us into the Guinness book as well :D

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 09:35 PM
You know, let's all hug each other, it will probably get us into the Guinness book as well :D

You really want to risk catching this chest cold I'm slowly losing ground to? (been a rough week, and its just getting started)

Celestial Mechanic
2006-Jan-10, 09:43 PM
You can tell from my sig that I'm no fan of Windows. All my machines (at home) run OS/2 / eComStation -- or they run nothing at all. OK, I've got some seldom-used Linux and BeOS partitions on some of them, but all my useful work at home (such as posting to BAUTForum!) is done using OS/2 / eComStation.

But as long as we are heaping well-deserved abuse upon our overlords from Redmond, let me add this--definition of Windows: a solitaire game with delusions of grandeur.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 09:45 PM
I, for one, welcome our wheredoyouwanttogotoday overlords.

:D

Doodler: getting your cold would be bad luck, that would be too ironic to be contained in this forum :).

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 09:56 PM
Macs and Linux may be better functional operating systems than Windows, but you really need to look beyond that. What Gates did with Microsoft wasn't building a better racecar, he focused on winning the race. You can write the best OS in history, but if you can't market it, you're screwed in the big game: Sales.

Windows is far from perfect, but thats mostly because being the biggest game in town has made it by far the most popular target. If OS/X or Linux were as massively deployed, you'd see more interest in probing their flaws with the same fine toothed comb that worthless...[tirade ommitted for clarity]...individuals look for in Windows.

You can pigeonhole Redmond all you want, just remember what you see being hurled at them when its your turn on top. You will be amazed at the amount rebound on the excrement you've shot at your competition.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 10:00 PM
My opinion still is that Windows XP is an easy to use and stable OS. Sure i could sum up a list of problems I'm having:

*Windows makes a mess of parts of your hard disc, creating folders you never use but can't delete amongst others
* Windows does not know the "single user" PC anymore
* The Office shortcut bar has startup issues
* Antivir has startup issues.

The last 2 I can solve manually after startup, the second one and first one could have been done better. But apart from these issues, I like XP a lot. I do. Shoot me :).

No software company could stay on top for that many years if their expensive software was as bad as often stated.

Doodler
2006-Jan-10, 10:14 PM
My opinion still is that Windows XP is an easy to use and stable OS. Sure i could sum up a list of problems I'm having:

*Windows makes a mess of parts of your hard disc, creating folders you never use but can't delete amongst others
* Windows does not know the "single user" PC anymore
* The Office shortcut bar has startup issues
* Antivir has startup issues.

The last 2 I can solve manually after startup, the second one and first one could have been done better. But apart from these issues, I like XP a lot. I do. Shoot me :).

No software company could stay on top for that many years if their expensive software was as bad as often stated.

I definitely liked XP more than I expected, after having survived using Windows ME. The only thing I cannot stand about xp is the default appearance. I couldn't tear through the graphic properties window to reset to the classic look fast enough. Big buttons and primary colors made it look like some Playskool tripe.

My biggest gripe with Windows was the formal integration of MSIE that came with Windows 98. Biggest mistake ever. I can understand some of the advantages of integrating a web browser with the system explorer, but I'll stand by my belief that most of Windows' security issues could be resolved simply by jettisoning that worthless browser.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 10:24 PM
Ah I try to separate the two as much as possible, and play down all fancy explorer tools, just hard data please! :).

ONe thing that has gone backwards is windows explorer: why does it not remember the open/close properties of the map tree after I shut down explorer anymore? It always has "desktop" as default opened map, while I would prefer "C:\"...

Now I need to do some clicks on the tree before arriving at C:\

Lance
2006-Jan-10, 11:09 PM
Ah I try to separate the two as much as possible, and play down all fancy explorer tools, just hard data please! :).

ONe thing that has gone backwards is windows explorer: why does it not remember the open/close properties of the map tree after I shut down explorer anymore? It always has "desktop" as default opened map, while I would prefer "C:\"...

Now I need to do some clicks on the tree before arriving at C:\

Create yourself a shortcut to:

explorer.exe /e, c:

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 11:31 PM
Thank you!

I needed to make a separate shortcut file with this path (I put it just in C:\) in order to be able to create a button in my shortcut bar, but now I have a shortcut bar button going to explorer aimed at C. The needed separate shortcut file isn't elegant, but anyway :). Thanks again!

I have thought about something for my shortcut bar startup problem, I'll see whether it works tomorrow. It possibly has to do with which startup folder contains the office file. Any idea what the "lasttoolbar" key for the office shortcut bar in the registry is? It is currently set to 2.

Lance
2006-Jan-10, 11:45 PM
You could put it in:

C:\Documents and Settings\<User Name>\Start Menu\Programs

too. Then you'd have it available on the Start Menu as well.

Sorry but it's been a while since I messed with the Office shortcut bar.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-10, 11:50 PM
I'm used to the office shortcut bar for links to IE and explorer, that's why I wanted it there.

To me (magic words here :)) the office bar makes windows really handy. That is a severly altered shortcut bar, in combination with a thinned out startbar.

Lance
2006-Jan-10, 11:52 PM
I'm used to the office shortcut bar for links to IE and explorer, that's why I wanted it there.
I understand that. I meant you could "store" the new shortcut file you made in the above path and then let the office shortcut bar point to it there. It just gives you more than one way to skin the cat.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 01:09 AM
Like that, I understand :). Good idea!

I've done it, and that's the most elegant solution indeed. Well, that's one thing solved :).

I hope I get the shortcut bar to load correctly, that will be another problem solved.

GDwarf
2006-Jan-11, 02:18 AM
It's true, Windows comes under attack because it's the biggest. However, it does have some features that just make it prone to error, certainly Linux would be under fire if it was at the top, but it's opponents would have far less ammo.

The Window's Registry, Worst. Idea. Ever.

Bloatware. Windows is huge, considering you can get free operating systems that take up all of 700 MB Window's inclination to use up 3 or so GB is hard to justify.

Slow response time to errors. The Microsoft tech team has a poor track record, it can take them weeks to fix simple holes, and their tech support has been known to tell people that a problem they are reporting doesn't exist, or give them a placebo patch and hope they don't call again.

Linux, however, has reported cases of big bugs being fixed a day later, although some larger ones do take quite a while. Linux tech support (from forums) although not over the phone, is free (I have to pay Microsoft $45 per tech support question) and tends to be more reliable.

Integrating IE into the operating system, you cannot uninstall IE without causing some serious errors to windows, in fact, after SP2 you can't uninstall it at all.

...

The list goes on, and I'm certain that Linux has a list just as long. Each OS has it's pros and cons, Window's cons just seem to be more... Fundamental and harder to fix.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 09:02 AM
Yet everybody pays like 200€ for Windows while things like Linux are free.

In fast-moving markets such as computer/software, it's not like the switch is impossible. Older program's in many cases won't run on new machines anyway, whether the old ones had windows as well or not, so that's no point.

Doodler
2006-Jan-11, 10:09 AM
Yet everybody pays like 200 for Windows while things like Linux are free.

In fast-moving markets such as computer/software, it's not like the switch is impossible. Older program's in many cases won't run on new machines anyway, whether the old ones had windows as well or not, so that's no point.

What makes Windows the monolith it is, as I see it, is ease of use for the layman computer user. 90% or more of the people who use Windows are not what you would call high level users. They plug in the box, push the power buttons, and play within the confines.

Its when you get to people who know of which they speak that the evil of Redmond is exposed. I'm a gamer in terms of my highest intensity computer use. When I buy and off the shelf tower, the first thing I do when I get it home is upgrade the RAM, graphics and sound cards right off the bat. I run a USB 2.0 cable modem because its quite frankly the most idiot proof way of connecting it, and when I exceed my personal knowledge (like I do when I touch anything to do with networking), I'm a pretty amazing idiot to behold. With respect to Windows, I've got some recurring issues with driver compatability that creep up, but by and large, I can't complain, except that they constantly pop up whenever I upgrade. What the overarching problem appears to be is that Windows rails against customization, its like a post-computerization car in some respects. Sure, turn on the ignition, maintain it regularly, but don't go tinkering with it, this ain't your granddaddy's hoopty.

For the majority of the computer using world, that works. Some people, I'm in the shallow end of the pool compared to most, know computers well and expect to be able to make these beasts sit up and dance on command, and Windows is built to hate them.

worzel
2006-Jan-11, 10:37 AM
The Window's Registry, Worst. Idea. Ever.
Yep, that's my biggest gripe with Windows.

"Hey, we've got all these config files dotted around in an unorderly fashion, so let's reinvent the filesystem just for them, and make all existing filesystem tools useless"

I can't imagine not having grep, tail, cut, sed, awk, etc. and /proc, /dev, and /etc on a server I had to look after.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 11:13 AM
What makes Windows the monolith it is, as I see it, is ease of use for the layman computer user. 90% or more of the people who use Windows are not what you would call high level users. They plug in the box, push the power buttons, and play within the confines.

Its when you get to people who know of which they speak that the evil of Redmond is exposed. I'm a gamer in terms of my highest intensity computer use. When I buy and off the shelf tower, the first thing I do when I get it home is upgrade the RAM, graphics and sound cards right off the bat. I run a USB 2.0 cable modem because its quite frankly the most idiot proof way of connecting it, and when I exceed my personal knowledge (like I do when I touch anything to do with networking), I'm a pretty amazing idiot to behold. With respect to Windows, I've got some recurring issues with driver compatability that creep up, but by and large, I can't complain, except that they constantly pop up whenever I upgrade. What the overarching problem appears to be is that Windows rails against customization, its like a post-computerization car in some respects. Sure, turn on the ignition, maintain it regularly, but don't go tinkering with it, this ain't your granddaddy's hoopty.

For the majority of the computer using world, that works. Some people, I'm in the shallow end of the pool compared to most, know computers well and expect to be able to make these beasts sit up and dance on command, and Windows is built to hate them.

Agreed. Most people use only a few % of the possibilities of their PC. Within these few %, Windows is excellent. It can work outside it too, but the further you get away the less handy it becomes. Other OS work equally well over the full range of possibilities. Obviously, it is very hard to combine that with ease of use in the most used parts of a PC.

worzel
2006-Jan-11, 11:29 AM
Agreed. Most people use only a few % of the possibilities of their PC. Within these few %, Windows is excellent. It can work outside it too, but the further you get away the less handy it becomes. Other OS work equally well over the full range of possibilities. Obviously, it is very hard to combine that with ease of use in the most used parts of a PC.
I don't think I agree with that. Virtually all of my pc is in use all the time, physically that is. Softwarewise, Windows has a vast range of software for doing all sorts of things precisely becuase it is so widespread, whether people stick to Word and IE or not.

I think the problems with Windows are mostly to do with its evolution from DOS. We're still suffering due to the fact that multiple users (let alone multiple logins) were added as an after thought. The amount of effort it takes to ensure that all user data is on a separate partition..., the amount of software that will only install as an admin and then not work for a limited account..., the fact that you have to run remote desktop rather than ssh in and just run the gui app remotely (well I don't know how, if it is possible)...

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 11:41 AM
I did not mean % cpu power, but possibilities (gaming, office applications, programming, surfing, website building, music making, video use, data storage, security, robot steering, developing OS, analysis, optimalisation...)

As long as these only depend on a software program, there is no problem using windows.

If these applications get more involved with the software and hardware architecture of the PC itself, Windows gets less handy in my experience, it is too demanding in that sense that you're expected to behave as Windows wants it. Unless you're programmming independent windows of course :).

But most people don't get this deep into their Pc, soi it's not a problem. I almost never go there either.

Multiiple users is an issue indeed. IT is that bad that I get problems because I don't want multiple users :D.

worzel
2006-Jan-11, 11:47 AM
I've given up for now with my laptop and have one administrator account only. Makes life easier in the short term, but I'm sure I'll regret it sooner or later :)

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 11:49 AM
HOw do you do that?

I'm stuck with "administrator", "all users" and "me". "me" is automatically logged on, but I don't want "me" as I'm the administrator anyway. I just want to automatically login as "administrator" without an account "me" existing!

worzel
2006-Jan-11, 11:55 AM
Sorry, what I meant was I have one account (me) with admin rights and no password so when I switch it on I'm logged on and can do whatever I want. There is still the "administrator", and the "all users" folder (although I don't think that is actually a user).

It's still got the OEM XP Home that it came with on it. I keep meaning to install Linux and XP Pro but it's so useful for playing games, or watching movies while I use my other computers.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 12:01 PM
You're in the same boat as me in that case. What do you do to stop files and programs from being spread between the "administrator" and "me" user? I mean desktop files and start menu entries.

GDwarf
2006-Jan-11, 12:03 PM
Agreed. Most people use only a few % of the possibilities of their PC. Within these few %, Windows is excellent. It can work outside it too, but the further you get away the less handy it becomes. Other OS work equally well over the full range of possibilities. Obviously, it is very hard to combine that with ease of use in the most used parts of a PC.
There is a difference between ease of use and being user friendly.

Windows is, to an extent, very user friendly. You don't see what goes on 'behind the curtain', most of it's processes are hidden from you, which makes finding problems or altering how things happen rather tricky, it involves a lot of trial and error.

Most other OSs are easy to use, as in, if you know what you are doing you can get them to do anything, and get them to do it fast.


As for Windows being the most used OS, that would be due to very good marketing, and the fact that people either associate Linux/OS/2 Warp/BSD etc. with limited compatibility (Not particularly true any more, you can certainly do all the office stuff you want on Linux, and quite a bit of gaming), Scary code stuff, or hackers.

Many people also don't like installing Operating Systems, Windows is fairly painless to install, having a GUI hold your hand the entire way through (And crippling your customization ability).
Most Distributions of Linux, on the other hand, have a text based, sometimes command-line interface for the installer, and unless you do know a lot about your computer it is very scary.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 12:09 PM
That describes it very good for my feeling, although I would change the wording "ease of use" into "possibilities" or "freedom". But that's semantics :).

worzel
2006-Jan-11, 12:56 PM
HOw do you do that?

I'm stuck with "administrator", "all users" and "me". "me" is automatically logged on, but I don't want "me" as I'm the administrator anyway. I just want to automatically login as "administrator" without an account "me" existing!
Don't know. What I do know is that if I install everything as "me" it works as "me", so my "me" account needs to have admin rights.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-11, 12:59 PM
It all works for me as well, but I don't like the files being spread :).

HenrikOlsen
2006-Jan-11, 07:28 PM
As for Windows being the most used OS, that would be due to very good marketing, and the fact that people either associate Linux/OS/2 Warp/BSD etc. with limited compatibility (Not particularly true any more, you can certainly do all the office stuff you want on Linux, and quite a bit of gaming), Scary code stuff, or hackers.

Many people also don't like installing Operating Systems, Windows is fairly painless to install, having a GUI hold your hand the entire way through (And crippling your customization ability).
Most Distributions of Linux, on the other hand, have a text based, sometimes command-line interface for the installer, and unless you do know a lot about your computer it is very scary.
The last paragraph confirmed the first:)
Most major linux distributions have done a lot in making an easier (and graphical) installer.

Gillianren
2006-Jan-11, 07:39 PM
Okay, but I, computer near-illiterate as I am, didn't have to install a thing when we got this computer. (Well, Opera, but how hard is that?) I don't know much of anything about computers. I know how to point and click. I'm sure I could learn other things, but I haven't. (Technically, I learned most of my computers skills on the Macs my high school's computer lab had, but we are still talking point and click.)

I don't argue that Microsoft is evil, but my feelings on the subject haven't much at all to do with the software. They have to do with the fact that I used to have a best friend who worked for them. Then, he started working 80 hours a week. I haven't seen him in years. Thanks, Microsoft.

GDwarf
2006-Jan-11, 08:30 PM
Okay, but I, computer near-illiterate as I am, didn't have to install a thing when we got this computer. (Well, Opera, but how hard is that?) I don't know much of anything about computers. I know how to point and click. I'm sure I could learn other things, but I haven't. (Technically, I learned most of my computers skills on the Macs my high school's computer lab had, but we are still talking point and click.)

If Linux had been installed on it then it would be similar, you'd just have to point and click, although installing would be different.

Gillianren
2006-Jan-11, 09:02 PM
If Linux had been installed on it then it would be similar, you'd just have to point and click, although installing would be different.

Yes, but I didn't know that. I hate to tell the computer savvy this, but the Great Unwashed don't actually have the foggiest idea what any OS except Windows (and, possibly Mac) are like.

Maksutov
2006-Jan-11, 09:20 PM
Yes- I've also got an ingrown toenail that's all yuck...
Ah well you get your good weeks you get your bad weeksWell, that explains it. One buffer overrun begets another...

Meanwhile, W2KPROSP4 here. Not perfect but very stable. Knock on 3 wood.

Sigma_Orionis
2006-Jan-12, 12:52 AM
Not that it's any consolation, But the cause of the problem might not have been Windows. It could have been that your hard disk developed a few bad blocks and the controller remapped them and some files got corrupted in the process.

I am no fan of any piece of software made by Microsoft (and I have used their software since 1978!) but the problems I have had with my Wintel boxes are usually due to hardware....

Van Rijn
2006-Jan-12, 01:05 AM
I am no fan of any piece of software made by Microsoft (and I have used their software since 1978!) but the problems I have had with my Wintel boxes are usually due to hardware....

Gotta ask - what software was that? Some years ago I realized that the first Microsoft software I had used was Microsoft Adventure in 1980. That was a repackaged version of the famous original Colossal Cave text adventure. Obviously not a Microsoft original ...

Nicolas
2006-Jan-12, 01:08 AM
The earliest Windows version I used was an obscure 2.0 version after I had formatted a 3.1 computer. I only used it until I got my hands on another 3.1 copy :). Wit hsome tweaking, 2.0 could be used a lot like 3.1, only it felt old, 3.1 was a lot more up to the job.

Van Rijn
2006-Jan-12, 01:37 AM
Heh. I first used MeSs-DOS 3.0 and (quite a bit later) Windows 3.0 versions. I had seen Windows 286, 386 and all that, but they didn't suit my needs and/or my hardware at the time. In the early windows days I preferred Desqview (extra points if anyone remembers that, by the same folks that did QEMM).

Halcyon Dayz
2006-Jan-12, 01:54 AM
I once saw a thing called ms-Windows 1.0.
Must have been in a museum.
I guess a whole pre-1980 Software Museum might fit on a single CD. :think: