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William_Thompson
2006-Jan-18, 10:24 PM
I got the famous 2.6 GIG google gmail account. It is by invitation only. Anyone want one too?

tofu
2006-Jan-18, 11:13 PM
lol. did you get a pair of rollerskates too?

seriously though, check out talk.google.com. The IM client. It's great. Much better than AIM or ICQ.

Vaelroth
2006-Jan-18, 11:25 PM
I've got 300 invites.

vaelroth@gmail.com for one. ;)

tofu
2006-Jan-18, 11:34 PM
I just love google. They are probably the smartest company in existence. Other companies just don't have great ideas like this. Every other company that has made a free email service has just let anybody sign up. If any other programmers suggested the invite thing, the manage wouldn't "get it" they would have a cow, and they would shoot the whole idea down. At google, they all get it.

If you send a spam message from a gmail account, the recipient hits a button and flags that message as spam. If you get too many of those flags, gmail cancels your account. Ok, so what? Spammers have lots of accounts. Well, here is the ingenious part, google knows who invited you. So a spammer signs up a legit account, and then invites himself 300 times and starts sending spam. At some point, google figures it out and cancels all 300 accounts. The spammer is basically out of business - well not really, but gmail makes it just hard enough to make spam not worthwhile.

Isn't that awesome? This company comes up with stuff like that all the time. I love them.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-18, 11:35 PM
And what if a virus infects your account and sends spam from your account without you wanting that to happen? Or has GMail a very good scanner of sorts?

Vaelroth
2006-Jan-18, 11:36 PM
I actuall have 100 invites on each of my gmail accounts which is where they've topped off 'cause they replenish after a while. Still, that system does eliminate spammers.

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 12:06 AM
And what if a virus infects your account and sends spam from your account without you wanting that to happen? Or has GMail a very good scanner of sorts?

I'm not sure what "infects your account" means. gmail runs on google's servers. Do you mean, what if a virus gets on google's servers? Then I guess everybody is in trouble.

Nicolas
2006-Jan-19, 12:11 AM
Hotmail runs on Hotmail servers. Still, some accounts have viruses that send mails to your list without you doing anything. OR they nest themselves into mails you send, triggering the virusscanners of those you mail to. Only, you can't see for yourself that your mails are infected.

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 12:23 AM
I hate to ask, but what is the significance of gmail? I have att, and I'm happy with my email. I get a rather large amount of invites, though. I decline them. What is so great about having gmail? :shifty:

Vaelroth
2006-Jan-19, 01:19 AM
2.6 gigs of storage space!

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 01:39 AM
2.6 gigs of storage space!
I get 25 MB with ATT (web). I have my email set up to automatically transfer to Outlook Express, if I open it. I usually have it open while I'm at home online. I'm not sure what the storage is for MS. I usually permanently delete stuff after awhile. Oh well, my system and storage space seems to work for me. :D

GDwarf
2006-Jan-19, 01:47 AM
I hate to ask, but what is the significance of gmail? I have att, and I'm happy with my email. I get a rather large amount of invites, though. I decline them. What is so great about having gmail? :shifty:
Massive storage space, currently it's close to 3GB, I could copy an entire DVD movie to my GMail account, provided it wasn't too long.

Many different things, really. A very good spell checker, all sorts of word formatting, multi-language support, you can import contacts from almost any other email site/program, if you type in an address it will suggest ones from your contact list, very good spam blocker, very fast load times, the list goes on.

Edit: So you have 25MB, with GMail you'd get 107 times as much storage.

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 01:53 AM
Edit: So you have 25MB, with GMail you'd get 107 times as much storage.
Okay, but I don't need that much storage space for email. I was just asking. I didn't know why so many people get so excited over it. I understand that "you" require extra space for a purpose. Very good to know.

Stregone
2006-Jan-19, 01:59 AM
Okay, but I don't need that much storage space for email. I was just asking. I didn't know why so many people get so excited over it. I understand that "you" require extra space for a purpose. Very good.
You pretty much never have to delete things. You can search back through all the email you ever sent or received, from anywhere with a net connection.

There's also practicaly no ads. Most of the time they don't show, just a nice clean easy to use interface.

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 02:02 AM
I didn't know why so many people get so excited over it.

It has an interface that is not like any other mail service.

It makes use of google's search power, that is undoubtably better than anyone else's.

It's integrated with a great IM client - the best one that I've seen.

The spam filter is much much better than hotmail. Do you have a spam filter on your account? Yahoo's is pretty good too btw.

You get FREE forwarding. Why not sign up for Candy@gmail.com and just use it as a throw away account and forward it to your exist email account? What is the downside to that?

You get free pop3 access in case you want to use your own mail program, like eudora or something. Heck, I can check my gmail with telnet!

The mail and instant messaging has SMS features. You can send and check your email and IM from your cell phone.

Come on, google rules!

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 02:03 AM
Hotmail runs on Hotmail servers. Still, some accounts have viruses

Do you have a link to any kind of technical description of this? Because I work in the IT industry and I have no idea what you're talking about. :-)

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 02:04 AM
I think you guys are brainwashed. :shifty:

I delete stuff because it serves no purpose any longer.

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 02:15 AM
It has an interface that is not like any other mail service.

It makes use of google's search power, that is undoubtably better than anyone else's.

It's integrated with a great IM client - the best one that I've seen.

The spam filter is much much better than hotmail. Do you have a spam filter on your account? Yahoo's is pretty good too btw.

You get FREE forwarding. Why not sign up for Candy@gmail.com and just use it as a throw away account and forward it to your exist email account? What is the downside to that?

You get free pop3 access in case you want to use your own mail program, like eudora or something. Heck, I can check my gmail with telnet!

The mail and instant messaging has SMS features. You can send and check your email and IM from your cell phone.

Come on, google rules!No thanks. ATT allows me 5 email accounts that I can forward the "dummies" to my main account. I can access my email from anywhere. I have Email forwarding, Spam Blocker, Email Virus Filtering, Email Auto Reply, Email Safe List, and Personal Web Pages (150 MB) for each domain (or vanity URL) I register. I'm plenty happy without gmail. Like I said, I was just asking why some folks are so g-awd. ;)

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 02:31 AM
That's cool Candy. What matters most is that you're happy.

It is free though, so I don't really see what the downside is to at least trying it. What is the worst that could happen? You have my gmail address, so sign up and download the IM client and I'll chat with you some time. ok?

And btw, I delete email too - all the time. It's just that, with google, I don't have to delete it. I choose to. Isn't that the definition of freedom?

Cl1mh4224rd
2006-Jan-19, 03:15 AM
Hotmail runs on Hotmail servers. Still, some accounts have viruses that send mails to your list without you doing anything. OR they nest themselves into mails you send, triggering the virusscanners of those you mail to. Only, you can't see for yourself that your mails are infected.
It's not the accounts that are infected, it's the user's computer. When you run an infected attachment from a web-based service, it's downloaded and then run on your computer, not the servers. Web-based email services don't have virus scanners to protect themselves; they have them to protect you.

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The biggest advantage to Gmail is, as was said, not having to delete anything. Most email clients, by default, delete emails from your ISP's server once it's downloaded. If your hard drive decides it's had enough of life, it'll take all those emails you've received over the years with it (unless you back them up, externally, on a regular basis).

The_Radiation_Specialist
2006-Jan-19, 03:53 AM
Any body can subscribe to G-mail with or without invitation. All you need is a mobile phone. :) https://www.google.com/accounts/SmsMailSignup1

Apart from the 2.6 GB, good spam blocker, etc, the best thing I like about gmail is that because it is relatively new, many common names are not yet taken. Other mail services you have to put a "232524" after your name or invent your own word like "jahgsfdj" so that nobody would have taken it before. I have a few accounts with Gmail one of them rarename@gmail.com

mickal555
2006-Jan-19, 04:22 AM
I have a couple of gmail accounts, but my main account is with my ISP which is unlimited because it goes on my hard drive (well it's limited to 20gig)... I have my gmail accounts go to outlook express as well...

HenrikOlsen
2006-Jan-19, 06:25 AM
If you send a spam message from a gmail account, the recipient hits a button and flags that message as spam. If you get too many of those flags, gmail cancels your account. Ok, so what? Spammers have lots of accounts. Well, here is the ingenious part, google knows who invited you. So a spammer signs up a legit account, and then invites himself 300 times and starts sending spam. At some point, google figures it out and cancels all 300 accounts. The spammer is basically out of business - well not really, but gmail makes it just hard enough to make spam not worthwhile.

Isn't that awesome? This company comes up with stuff like that all the time. I love them.
That only works for gmail spam sent to gmail accounts, gmail spam sent everywhere else in the world don't have that feature.

zebo-the-fat
2006-Jan-19, 09:29 AM
I use gmail for on forums like this one, gmail notifier checks and tells me if a new gmail has arrived. My main email account I keep for private messages and I have another one I use for work. (I can't remember more than 3 adddresses!)
I did see a small utility that turned your gmail account into a virtual hard drive, so you can access 2 Gb of data from anywhere with internet access. (I think it splits the files into lots of small "emails" then sends them to the server, it then sticks them back when you download the file again. (Yes I know you can get 2 Gb memory sticks, but gmail if free!):razz:

Nicolas
2006-Jan-19, 10:00 AM
Do you have a link to any kind of technical description of this? Because I work in the IT industry and I have no idea what you're talking about. :-)

I'll give examples of what can happen:

modest example:
I get the MaLeEnHanCeRrR kind of spam, and the mail disguises itself as being sent by somebody from my contacts list. Sometimes even myself :).

Stronger example:
*my niece is in my contact list, and I'm in her.. So is a good friend. Of course my niece is not in his contact list and he's not in her list (she's not 18 yet ;)). Suddenly he get's a FrEeOnlIneMEds spam mail, claiming to be sent from my niece's adress!

Thinking about it, the virus can actually be on my computer instead of on my space of the hotmail server. I have no further information about this.

zebo-the-fat
2006-Jan-19, 10:20 AM
BTW, new UK gmail accounts are googlemail not gmail, (like "my.name@googlemail.com") some problem with the name gmail here. (existing gmail accounts are not affected)

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 12:33 PM
That only works for gmail spam sent to gmail accounts, gmail spam sent everywhere else in the world don't have that feature.

the way that you sign up for gmail accounts is an anti-spam measure. I didn't make that up, I'm reading it on their website.

http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?ctx=mobile&answer=22245&hl=en

HenrikOlsen
2006-Jan-19, 02:38 PM
I understand the idea, and that they say it's an anti-spam measure.
I also understand that it doesn't help with spam sent to non gmail accounts.
It's also a marketing gimmic to make it sound more interesting, people with invites feel like they have something valuable and want to tell other people that they have them, just see how the thread started.

ToSeek
2006-Jan-19, 02:59 PM
I back up some of my key files by mailing them to my gmail address. I think someone's even written a backup program to do this systematically.

tofu
2006-Jan-19, 03:26 PM
I back up some of my key files by mailing them to my gmail address. I think someone's even written a backup program to do this systematically.

Here the link to the gmail drive extension, since nobody has yet posted it:
http://www.viksoe.dk/code/gmail.htm

I have it installed at work and at home, and I've found it pretty useful, although I normally use foldershare. The great thing about gmail drive is that it has a very small footprint. It's not doing anything unless you're using it, it's not burning up cpu time or network bandwidth.

Candy
2006-Jan-19, 06:25 PM
BTW, new UK gmail accounts are googlemail not gmail, (like "my.name@googlemail.com") some problem with the name gmail here. (existing gmail accounts are not affected)
Google drops Gmail address in UK (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4354954.stm)

Gmail, the free e-mail service run by internet search giant Google, will change its name for new UK users.
Following a trademark dispute the mail account will be renamed Google Mail.

London-based Independent International Investment Research says it started using the Gmail name for a web-mail application two years before Google.

Current UK users of Google's service will be unaffected, but a separate trademark dispute forced Google to drop the Gmail name in Germany in May.

Talks between both companies broke down several months ago, after they failed to agree a financial settlement.
I remember this from awhile back.