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iamjman
2006-Jun-21, 11:25 PM
One thing that should really tip you off about why they are more heavily cratered is that they are occuring on what would be the Moon's magnetic north and south pole. Some people think that this might have something to do with what happened to Mars.

Mars' Topography (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/mars_topography.jpg)

Look at how the south pole is heavily cratered, and above the average elevation of the planet. The north pole, on the other hand, is 3000 feet below average and is remarkably smooth. Note the 4 large "volcanoes" and the super-grand canyon called the Valles Marineris directly to the right. Awfully suspiscious, right?

You noticed something that most people haven't or probably ever will, Pumpkin Pie, but let's review a few things about the Moon that are FACT, and then I'll ask you what you think about this little theory I got running through my brain.

Tycho crater (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/060308crater-1.jpg)

This is a picture of what is certainly the most conspicuous crater on the Moon: Tycho. Located in the southern hemisphere, the crater is some 85 kilometers in diameter with “rays” that extend at least a quarter of the way around the moon.

Lightning on a golf course (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/060309lightning.jpg)

The central peak, said to have been formed by a “rebound” of subterranean material, rises about 2 kilometers above the crater floor. Planetary scientists suggest that the flat floor of the crater (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/060308crater-3.jpg) was formed by the pooling of melted material.

But the idea that an impact would create such an extensive pool of molten rock finds no support in impact experiments or in high-energy explosions. Not even an atomic explosion creates a flat melted floor of this sort. The force of the explosion shocks and ejects material. It does not hold the material in place to “melt” it into a lake of lava.

Crater Aristarchus (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/060310crater.jpg)

On the left is Aristarchus, while on the right is Herodotus, which punctuates Schroeter's Valley.

Where it is. (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/060309hubble.jpg)

The crater Aristarchus, pictured above, stands out in all Earth-based telescopic images of the Moon. Of the larger formations on the Moon, this rayed crater is considered the brightest. Notice the striking similarities to the golf course.

Electric craters in the lab (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/040702craters.jpg)

The centers of some of the craters have bumps, as do many craters on the Moon, Mars, and other surfaces.

Electric "wind" in the lab: before (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/051108before.jpg)

and after (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/051108radial.jpg)

Quite possibly the same effect on Mars. (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/051108tyrrhena.jpg) The current was much stronger so the ground got much hotter.

Finally look at this last rille on the Moon (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/040901rille.jpg), with it having blast away the surrounding surface material.

Anyways, what I'm getting at is that for every North and South magnetic pole, there's an electric current associated with it. These currents come in from outside our solar system, and when they fluctuate greatly or another moving body discharges with another, great lightning storms take place... just like our ancient ancestors said they did. Somewhere down the line we got to thinking that were smarter than them, but we ignore the simple things in front of our faces.

Aurora's on our magnetic poles whenever the solar "wind" (or charged current, according to this theory) blows. Magnetic fields everywhere we look in the Universe, shaping galaxies and star systems. Stars orbiting each other in a matter of hours, defying gravity to the max. Sunspots show us the interior of the Sun, which is cooler than the surface, which is even cooler than the corona; completely the opposite of the fusion model.

Venus' orbit is nearly a perfect circle, has some missing arc seconds, and rotates/orbits the opposite direction of most planets. Some of its ancient names (translated) were the bearded planet, the smoky planet, the hairy planet. Its Latin name meant morning star. This thing was literally glowing back in the day. It has a pretty much brand new surface, and some data suggest that it's actually cooling off. SOHO has detected stringy filaments eminating from the planet.

The filaments on Sun's surface seem to be massive tornadoes that are running parallel to the surface of the Sun:

Twisting ropes (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/041015solar-tornado.jpg)

More twists and hairs. (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/sun2.jpg) Note the dark stripes down the back of the filaments.

More sunspots (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/sun.jpg)

Compare them to this fire tube demonstration, with the dark stripe being the central vortex. (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/firetube.jpg)

The path of the currents. (http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e397/Bigpappadiaz/050617penumbra.jpg)

So, dang that was a long post. Nuff said.

kashi
2006-Jun-22, 01:25 AM
Looks like a crock of $%^#@$% to me!

Nereid
2006-Jun-22, 01:27 AM
This post has been moved from the Craters on the Moon's north and south poles thread (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=42915) (in the Astronomy section).

iamjman, please do not hijack a thread to promote your own, ATM, ideas ... especially those outside this ATM section. Such hijacking is a violation of BAUT's rules (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=32864).

iamjman
2006-Jun-22, 02:07 AM
Looks like a crock of $%^#@$% to me!

Alright dude. I guess it's just because you can't visualize it? Sorry. It's the wave of the future though, so you better get with the times when the ball gets rolling on this theory. I'm finding more and more people asking more and more questions about these phenomena. As science and technology improve we'll only find more evidence of the electromagnetic connection between all things. Hopefully not in your lifetime though, right?

iamjman
2006-Jun-22, 02:07 AM
Looks like a crock of $%^#@$% to me!

Alright dude. I guess it's just because you can't visualize it? Sorry. It's the wave of the future though, so you better get with the times when the ball gets rolling on this theory. I'm finding more and more people asking more and more questions about these phenomena. As science and technology improve we'll only find more evidence of the electromagnetic connection between all things. Hopefully not in your lifetime though, right?

Tensor
2006-Jun-22, 02:36 AM
Stars orbiting each other in a matter of hours, defying gravity to the max.

Do you have a specific example of this, instead of some unsupported general comment?

Van Rijn
2006-Jun-22, 08:59 AM
SOHO has detected stringy filaments eminating from the planet.


Reference please? Surely this isn't just a SOHO image of a Venus transit?


This wasn't answered. Where is the reference?

edited to add:

*DARN!*


I accidentally revised this post and ended up removing most of it. THIS WAS NOT INTENTIONAL! I was trying to quote myself for a new post, and ended up overwriting the old one. Now I can't seem to get back to the old version. THat will teach me to try to do this quick before running out the door. I'll try to fix this up a bit later.

The skeptic
2006-Jun-22, 10:21 AM
Does the Moon have a magnetic dipole?

Eta C
2006-Jun-22, 12:59 PM
Reference please? Surely this isn't just a SOHO image of a Venus transit?

My first guess is that he's mistaking pixel bleed for something real.

Gillianren
2006-Jun-22, 08:28 PM
Venus was called "Venus" by the ancient Romans, you know. That's why we call it that.

As to it being the morning star (and the evening star!), well, yes. It's lovely just after dawn in a soft, rosy sky. Or just at dusk as the sky goes all purply. This has not changed in several thousand years except to become more difficult to see due to light pollution.

Tensor
2006-Jun-23, 01:00 AM
To quote Herman's Hermits, 2nd verse, same as the first:




Originally Posted by iamjman
Stars orbiting each other in a matter of hours, defying gravity to the max.


Do you have a specific example of this, instead of some unsupported general comment?

iamjman
2006-Jun-23, 02:06 AM
Do you have a specific example of this, instead of some unsupported general comment?

A simple google search of "stars orbiting each other" would have yielded this article:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1003006.htm

From this other article (http://www.cerncourier.com/main/article/44/2/13) about that couple of neutron stars.


What makes the newly discovered neutron-star binary J0737-3039 special, is that its orbital period is only 2.4 hours, which is three times shorter than that of the Hulse-Taylor binary pulsar (Burgay et al. 2003). The two neutron stars orbit each other so tightly that the orbit would fit inside the Sun. Because of gravitational wave emission, the two stars will coalesce in only around 85 million years, sending an ultimate ripple of gravity waves across the universe. The discovery of this closely orbiting system implies that such coalescences must occur more frequently than was previously thought.


Just spinning around because of electromagnetics

Tensor
2006-Jun-23, 02:49 AM
A simple google search of "stars orbiting each other" would have yielded this article:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1003006.htm

From this other article (http://www.cerncourier.com/main/article/44/2/13) about that couple of neutron stars.

Where do those links say that this defies gravity?

This article (http://www.atnf.csiro.au/research/highlights/2003/manchester/manchester.html) mentions several aspects about that particular system and concludes:

...confirming the accuracy of predictions made by Einstein's general theory of relativity.... Now, how exactly, do you get this defies gravity, when it really is something that confirms our current theory of gravity? If you want the calculations, this paper (http://www.stanford.edu/~jbarral/Downloads/Astro-Rapport.pdf) provides you with how the details are calculated. Feel free to point out exactly where these are wrong and so "defy gravity".


Just spinning around because of electromagnetics

Wonderful. Please provide the electromagnetics calculations that show a match with the observed advance of the periastron. Once that is done, you can then provide the equations on the rest of the data in that paper.

Nereid
2006-Jun-23, 10:08 PM
[Moderator Note] Several posts have been moved to
The Electric Sun thread (”http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=41877”), as they concern that ATM idea. [/Moderator Note]

Nereid
2006-Jun-23, 10:10 PM
iamjman, please read the PM I sent you; I would appreciate a reply.

In the meantime, this thread will be closed.