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2002-Jan-20, 04:46 PM
1 Enron? remember? I think the sequil,
2 {ei Senate et all}'s just as bogus as
3 the origional. It was a foney decoy 1
4 For now i'll just say Oregon's PGE
5 and take the Fifth. 2-1-20 10:15 A.M.
perhaps you notice its still January 20, 2002
well the Jan options expired Friday Thus Feb
skip_CRAP_cut2_CHASE (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=465&forum=1&23#20020312.8:46)

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2002-Jan-25, 04:22 AM
[quote]
On 2002-01-20 11:46, HUb' wrote: To: 2-1-24 9:48 P.M.
1 Enron? Yeah, plenty funny story
2 {ei Senate et all}'s Yeah, Yeah
3 hokus pokus
4 now back to ET Clones
5 and take the Fifth. 2-1-20 10:15 A.M. "FIRST"
AND THE "gENERIC" vocals of said group?
oh well ets see if I can make a forcast
hmm? thinking ?

2002-Jan-28, 08:13 AM
<a name="20020128"> Page name was 20020128
ok the 4Cast will be about "Earth" Quake
actually it about a 90 day period of Quakes
so below are the exerps for the file EQX
<pre>______| allright?
***> 1 28 | beginning about now January 28, 2002
2 27 | WELL actually in 1 month Feb
362>3 28 | the "active" QUAKE season begins
/ 4 27 | So there a very good chance
5 26 | that Quakes will happen
</pre>_____| around the dates given
ONLY its more coplicated than 3/28 as on that
day the Moon @ Perigee see. & the 2 qaukes come B4 & After by 1day and 1/2 or so. So look for five 6.o's in 90 days in Feb Mar April

2002-Jan-29, 06:14 PM
<a name="20020129c"> Page name was 20020129c <pre>
1:so a theoritical Season's of "Applause"(s) more like the following:
2: 7 7 7 7 7 7 Earths 2nd GW harmonic
3: Q-Q ?-Q q-Q Q-? Q-q .-Q {T_0's = "FULL" Moons}
4: <14&3/4> <14&3/4> <14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
5:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
6: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
7: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes
8:|=Applause| |=Applause| |=Applause|.............: aka Season
9:of course theres slop at eithor end for drills it's ESTABLISHED!-!
</pre>
there Pre's included should make semce now? maybe

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2002-Feb-10, 02:17 PM
<a name="20020210.7:39"> page 20020210.7:39 aka 2/3/4 Quakes
On 2002-01-29 13:14, HUb' wrote: To: Temp 2-2-10
Seventeen more days till Q Day
So keep in mind the actuall Count{clap}
takes place a day or two(3) prior & after
<pre>
4: <14&3/4> <14&3/4> <14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
5:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
6: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
7: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes
8:|=Applause| |=Applause| |=Applause|.............: aka Season
9:of course theres slop at eithor end for drills it's ESTABLISHED!-!
</pre>
THUS its `poised [according to this theory]
to be A "Q" pair { about 7 days apart }
Well whatever i'll attempt to keep it page 1
for three months? which may not be to easy

2002-Feb-23, 04:50 PM
<a name="20020223.10:13"> page 20020223.10:13 aka Quake ReTake
On 2002-02-10 09:17, HUb' wrote: to February 23, 2002

On 2002-01-29 13:14, HUb' wrote: To: Temp 2-2-10
Seventeen more days till Q Day : pretty soon now
so get ready to re`D'Q`yall try?http://www.gsrg.nmh.ac.uk/gsrg.html
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/quakexe/quakes
<pre>
4: <14&3/4> <14&3/4> <14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
5:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
6: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
7: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes
8:|=Applause| |=Applause| |=Applause|.............: aka Season
9:of course theres slop at eithor end for drills it's ESTABLISHED!-!
</pre>
THUS its `poised [according to this theory]
to be A "Q" pair { about 7 days apart }
Well whatever i'll attempt to keep it page 1
for three months? which may not be to easy
[/quote]

John Kierein
2002-Feb-24, 11:12 AM
On 2002-01-28 03:13, HUb' wrote:
<a name="20020128"> Page name was 20020128
ok the 4Cast will be about "Earth" Quake
actually it about a 90 day period of Quakes
so below are the exerps for the file EQX
<pre>______| allright?
***> 1 28 | beginning about now January 28, 2002
2 27 | WELL actually in 1 month Feb
362>3 28 | the "active" QUAKE season begins
/ 4 27 | So there a very good chance
5 26 | that Quakes will happen
</pre>_____| around the dates given
ONLY its more coplicated than 3/28 as on that
day the Moon @ Perigee see. & the 2 qaukes come B4 & After by 1day and 1/2 or so. So look for five 6.o's in 90 days in Feb Mar April

It's started? Baja. http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/020222193241.html

2002-Feb-24, 12:26 PM
<a name="20020224.5:43"> page 20020224.5:43 aka where's the Car in the San Diago Quake
On 2002-02-24 06:12, John Kierein wrote: To: 3 MANIK 5 KAYAB
hmm? proopensity4 selfDECEPTION curently off scale
HOWEVER i tried the link below anyway?
letin/020222193241.h
and FOUND [.] San Diago ?
THAT howevers not correct answer
as CORRECT LOCATION should be NORTH
as "the Moon's Hi." something above 45 deg N
would be my Guess. I just say Alaska {% wise}
2 27 | WELL actually in 1 month Feb
YEAH yeah .... its Feb.. what can i say
February 24, 2002 Quake day today or Tomorrow?
most probable time around SunUp or SunDown
AND as I say NORTH {whatever that means}
No San Diago or Peru or even Australia ?
So Now its Back to "Energy" an R=6.6 {he.he}
[NO I don't know::Haven't a Clue] {what2do.W2D}
It's started? Baja. http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/020222193241.html
LOCKTHRD = HUb' Ba INDX (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=183&forum=1#LOCKTHRD)

2002-Feb-28, 01:15 PM
<a name="20020228.6:33"> page 20020228.6:33 aka Old Crow
The day of the Full Moon has come & Gone
and I saw no TV coverage of any Quakes anywhere
looks like Old Crow time 4me
except I dont have any
Nor do I have an instant web site for
WORDWIDE Quakes {Big 1's} anymore
So really i've not paid much attention
2 this ? My Guess [0 ] right [1] wrong / series
and a Season lasts 90 days
with 2x3=6 Big # chances {So Boo on #1}



February 24, 2002 Quake day today or Tomorrow?
most probable time around SunUp or SunDown
AND as I say NORTH {whatever that means}
No San Diago or Peru or even Australia ?


http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/020222193241.html
http://www.seismo-watch.com/EQSERVICES/Reports/WGB/BriefWGB.html
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/quakexe/quakes
http://www.notfrisco.com/calmem/earthquake/index.html

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Feb-28, 02:28 PM
On 2002-02-28 08:15, HUb' wrote:
The day of the Full Moon has come & Gone
and I saw no TV coverage of any Quakes anywhere
looks like Old Crow time 4me
except I dont have any


You're lucky. Just think what would have happened if a quake had struck by chance (and there was a pretty good chance of it, based on normal occurrence), then you would have been saddled with a theory that didn't really have any backing. You got off cheap.

2002-Feb-28, 04:23 PM
On 2002-02-28 09:28, GrapesOfWrath wrote:
[quote]

Alright ? there was a 6.?
not exactly NORTH i'll admitt
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/quakexe/quakes



You're lucky. Just think what would have happened if a quake had struck by chance (and there was a pretty good chance of it, based on normal occurrence), then you would have been saddled with a theory that didn't really have any backing. You got off cheap.

2002-Mar-06, 04:12 PM
<a name="20020306.10:02"> page 20020306.10:02 aka Quake ?
On 2002-02-28 11:23, HUb' wrote: To: HUB 10:03 A.M.& 7:16 A.M.2-3-07

On 2002-02-28 09:28, GrapesOfWrath wrote: To: Last Word On
Lemme try to hack this 2get`Her<pre>
5th March 2002 01:47 [14]WESTERN AUSTRALIA 4.8
21:16 [24]MINDANAO, PHILIPPINES 7.5
MINDANAO, PHILIPPINES 7.5 trick? Fm=27+7=1/4 +2=Lull =Fri 8th vs 7on6 hmm? thin`N
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/quakexe/quakes
Look/ if your listening?/? GOOD, good now the tricky part
there have been Many Many 5.'s lately {trick}
4: <14&3/4><14&3/4><14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
5:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
6: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
7: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes

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GrapesOfWrath
2002-Mar-07, 12:41 PM
On 2002-03-06 11:12, HUb' wrote:
Look/ if your listening?/?
there have been Many Many 5.'s lately
the total Energy release for this period climbes

I'm listening.

A magnitude 7 earthquake will yield a thousand times (http://www.seismo.unr.edu/ftp/pub/louie/class/100/magnitude.html) the energy of a magnitude 5--a couple dozen mag. 5's is nothing in comparison. Mag. 7's are not particularly rare (http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recent/recent.html)--and didn't this one happen in the wrong timing for your theory?

ChallegedChimp
2002-Mar-07, 02:07 PM
Cripes GOW and Hub are going at it, my monkey arse is headin for the hills.....

(damn earthquake are to random to support either of 'em....just so long as the tree shakers don't start here in Central Florida, no probOh, BTW, How yah doing GOW? Haven't seen yah on the ATM board for a bit.

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Mar-07, 02:34 PM
On 2002-03-07 09:07, ChallegedChimp wrote:
Cripes GOW and Hub are going at it
O no, HUb' and me have the same goal. Same one as BA, too, the fight against ignorance.

I am making progress in my own little self.

2002-Mar-08, 01:58 PM
<a name="20020308.7:42"> page 20020308.7:42 aka Lull.1st1/4
6th March 2002 4.7 4.8 4.8 5.0 4.6 4.6 3.7 4.4 5.0 4.7__



7th March 2002 5.2 4.7 4.7 4.2 5.1 4.6 4.7 4.2 4.2 4.2 4.6 4.9 4.9
8th March 2002 4.9 4.7 4.4 4.4 4.8 6.0

10th March 2002 4.2 5.4 4.8 4.4 4.4 4.7 4.5
11th March 2002 5.8 4.2 4.9 4.9 4.1 5.1 4.2
12th March 2002 3.0 3.6 2.5 5.2 4.7 5.0
i freely admit not updating this on time
lackof interest makes this LULL, DULL {maybe next time}

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2002-Mar-12, 02:55 PM
<a name="20020312.8:46"> page 20020312.8:46 aka NOT my disclaimer
http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk/quakexe/quakes
2:
3:Global Earthquake Report
14th 5.0 4.6 4.5 4.2 5.9 4.9 3.3 4.1 4.1 5.0
15th 5.0 4.8 4.5 5.3 4.1 4.5 4.6 3.4 3.1
16th 4.7 4.9 4.5 5.6 4.6 4.8
17th 4.9 5.0 4.6 4.9 4.7 4.2 4.4 4.5 4.0 5.7 5.2 5.6 5.7 5.5 4.6
18th 4.7 4.0 5.2 5.5 4.9 4.6 4.3 4.5 4.7 4.4 4.2 5.4
19th 4.2 4.8 2.9 3.8 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.5 4.1 6.1 4.1
20th 4.3 4.1 5.9 4.5 4.3 3.2 4.2 4.7 4.1 4.7 4.7 4.8 4.4 4.7
21st 4.3 4.4 5.0 4.7 4.2 4.2 4.6 4.5 4.2
22nd 4.9 4.3 4.6 4.5 5.0 5.2 4.5 2.7 5.4 4.2
0:23rd 4.7 3.4 4.6 5.2 4.2 5.2 < THE "LULL"
1:24th 4.5 5.2 4.8 4.2 5.1 5.2 4.5 4.2 4.3
2:25th 4.9 4.5 6.0 5.2 5.0 { and the SIXes }
25 4.3 4.4 4.5 6.1 4.6 4.4 5.0 4.9 5.2 4.9

26 6.5 4.9 4.3 4.7 5.1 4.9 5.0 4.4 3.5 4.8 4.2 3.5 4.2


27 5.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.6 5.1 4.5 4.6 4.6 4.5 4.6 5.2

28 4.9 5.0 4.9 4.4 6.5 5.5 5.2 3.0 4.8 4.6 4.8 4.4
29 4.9 4.8 3.0
30 lack of interest
31 no contact
1st 4.9 4.7 4.5 3.6 4.7 4.7 4.3 4.4 4.9 6.4
2nd 4.6 4.4 4.7 5.0 4.2


3rd 4.7 4.3 4.1 5.2 4.6 4.7 4.3 4.8 5.0 4.4 4.1 4.4 5.1
4th 4.6 4.5 < probable 3/4th lull on third quarter day?
4th 4.6 4.5 4.7 4.2 4.9 4.3
5th 4.1 3.3 5.0 4.7 4.2 4.7 4.1 4.9 5.5
6th 4.8 4.5 4.5
6th 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.2 4.0
7th 5.1 6.1 3.1 4.7 4.0 5.0 4.3 5.6 4.7 4.9 4.6 4.3
8th 4.7 4.6 4.8 4.7 3.6 4.0 4.5
7th 4.0 5.0 4.3 5.8 4.7 4.9 4.6
8th 4.3 4.6 6.2 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.8 4.7 3.6 4.0 4.5
a
10th 4.5 4.4 5.1 5.9 4.9 5.1 4.6 4.5 4.7 4.0 3.7 4.7 5.1
11th 4.4 4.6 4.1 4.8 4.4 3.7 4.8 4.6 4.3 6.2 5.5
12
1305/13 19:57:22 19.14N 121.15E 33.0 5.8M A PHILIPPINE ISLANDS
1405/14 16:56:10 36.61S 78.84E 10.0 6.1M B MID-INDIAN RIDGE
1505/15 03:46:05 24.60N 121.94E 10.0 6.0M A TAIWAN
16
175/17 10:40:10 48.19N 27.82W 10.0 5.6M A NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC
05/25 05:36:31 53.93N 161.27W 33.0 6.0M A SOUTH OF ALASKA
05/23 15:52:15 30.67S 71.13W 52.1 6.0M A NEAR COAST OF CENTRA
5/26 00:10:21 1.85N 127.33E 110.8 5.7M A HALMAHERA, INDONESIA
5/28 04:04:22 28.89S 66.57W 21.3 6.0M A CATAMARCA PROVINCE, ARG
5/28 16:45:18 24.06N 122.19E 49.5 6.0M A TAIWAN
5/30 14:41:40 19.20S 169.01E 158.5 5.6M A VANUATU ISLANDS
{HMM?} maybe i missed some [17-25]

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2002-Mar-18, 12:22 PM
<a name="20020318.6:12"> page 20020318.6:12 aka Dropped A count <pre>
1: so i'll attempt to pick it up here?
2:______| allr
3: ***> 1 28 |
4: 2 27 | todays update was on 2-3-23
5: 362>3 28 | days to go = five days +/-
6: / 4 27 | Perigee = Full moon ?/?
7: 5 26 |?<
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
---------------->
---------------->
-----------------?
3: <14&3/4> <14&3/4> <14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
4:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
5: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
6: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes
7:|=Applause| |=Applause| |=Applause|.............: aka Season
--------------------------|? one applause left _Line date April 10
the 1/4 moon was on Friday 22nd of March
"A" 3/4 Lunar?lull 4/4 {April fourth}
8:
7:
6:
5:
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2002-Mar-26, 08:31 AM
WELL
this "Season"'s tracking VERY WELL
so back to page 1
Feb March & April are the three Months (90days)
involved in this active "season"
and the Lull at first 1/4 took place
4: 2 27 |
5: 362>3 28 | Full Moon = Perigee
6: / 4 27 |
Precisly on schedule..
nothing could be finer
Agaij the second set of 6's
most probably WILL occure
on the tenth. So watch for "THEM"
TWO
3: <14&3/4> <14&3/4> <14&3/4> 14&3/4day GW Primary
4:/==F==/===N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4===F===/==N=1/4Moon NOTE !
5: 2/27 [2002] 3/28 [spring?] 4/27 | this methode predicts
6: "Lull" "Lull" | Lull's > Big EarthQuakes
7:|=Applause| |=Applause| |=Applause|.............: aka Season
------------------>
the 1/4 moon was on Friday 22nd of March
So the Most likely time for this "LULL"
the 1st.1/4 whenevr that happens :WILL BE
TWO DAYS after the first quarter on the 24th
{and thats precisly what has happend}
[& the 6.'s aare taking place on schedule2]
a
b
c
d
e

Comixx
2002-Mar-26, 10:59 AM
Could someone teach me how to read this? Is Hub working on a theory that should predict earthquakes, locations of, and magnitudes of, based on astronomical measurements? To me it just looks like bad attempts at ascii art /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

2002-Mar-27, 09:33 AM
<a name="20020327.3:17"> page 20020327.3:17 aka Commix`
2:3/24 00:28:44 6.70N 72.87W 150.0 4.5M A NORTHERN COLOMBIA
3:3/24 05:55:12 16.74S 171.98E 33.0 5.2M A VANUATU ISLANDS REGION
4:3/24 08:03:18 13.74S 167.23E 198.3 4.8M A VANUATU ISLANDS
5:3/24 10:44:07 37.01N 115.10W 5.0 4.2M A SOUTHERN NEVADA
6:3/24 12:11:48 43.04S 82.71W 10.0 5.1M B WEST CHILE RISE
7:3/24 14:35:55 24.40N 46.28W 10.0 5.2M A NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
8:3/24 18:48:52 23.97S 66.51W 213.9 4.5M B JUJUY PROVINCE, ARGENTINA
9:3/24 20:29:27 24.56N 46.40W 10.0 4.2M B NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
103/24 21:06:04 59.39N 145.54W 33.0 4.3M A GULF OF ALASKA
1:3/25 06:18:13 49.53N 155.60E 33.0 4.9M A KURIL ISLANDS
2:3/25 13:58:14 33.65N 132.33E 41.7 4.5M B SHIKOKU, JAPAN
3:3/25 14:56:37 35.97N 69.18E 33.0 6.0M A HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
4:3/25 18:31:06 23.09S 67.86W 133.3 5.2M B CHILE-ARGENTINA BORDER REGION
5:3/25 21:45:07 35.99N 69.22E 33.0 5.0M B HINDU KUSH REGION, AFGHANISTAN
6:3/26 03:45:48 23.54N 123.91E 33.0 6.3M A SW RYUKYU ISL., JAPAN
7:Organization: AT&T Broadband
8:Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 15:23:01 GMT
9:
First reports from Afghanistan mention that yesterdays earthquake ea
intensity 5.5 and lasted over 3 hours. Is such a duration possible?
Did this include aftershocks? If so how strong were the aftershocks?
How deep was the epicenter? Was there focussing or reflection of the
energy? Intensity 5.5 doesn't sound like that much energy release.
F:3:19 A.M. believe what U like
E: the 5. aired here @97209
D: both as a LOCAL & National
.. no mention of Six`$
.. NOR of SW RY`s
a however as you may guess
b I just do not believe eithor AT T
c or NABisKIT on this time line
d my guess: the Senat Enron hearings are
e `en ReRite Route .. um wheres that Russian
R now that i could use a West face`N N anyway

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2002-Apr-03, 02:11 PM
On 2002-03-26 05:59, Comixx wrote:
Could someone teach me how to read this? Is Hub working on a theory that should predict earthquakes, locations of, and magnitudes of, based on astronomical measurements? To me it just looks like bad attempts at ascii art /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

8:01 A.M. ok back to page 1
Making HTTP connection to http://www.geo.ed.ac.uk.
Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host.
so yeah i've skiped a days or so of data
my pleee was NOT my fault/ nor fracture niethor

2002-Apr-04, 12:20 PM
On 2002-03-26 05:59, Comixx wrote:
Could someone teach me how to read this? Is Hub working on a theory that should predict earthquakes, locations of, and magnitudes of, based on astronomical measurements? To me it just looks like bad attempts at ascii art /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

Listen: i've long sence left Quack 4cast`N
for far more Energetic #'s
however I will say this about that
The system [Lull.1st1/4] worketh so well
That durring the Solar Max(23) I was able to
sort out Earth Quakes caused by Solar Eruption on the Sun. BELIVE what you want. i've l`ill interest anylonger

2002-Apr-10, 09:31 AM
On 2002-04-04 07:20, HUb' wrote: To: HUb' 9 EB 10 POP


On 2002-03-26 05:59, Comixx wrote:
Could someone teach me how to read this? Is Hub working on a theory that should predict earthquakes, locations of, and magnitudes of, based on astronomical measurements? To me it just looks like bad attempts at ascii art /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

GO tO SOC
[THIS SHOULD BE THE LAST PUSH TO PAGE 1]
THE SEASONS ABOUT OVER {see othe parts}
The system [Lull.1st1/4] worketh so well
That durring the Solar Max(23) I was able to
sort out Earth Quakes caused by Solar Eruption on the Sun. BELIVE what you want. i've l`ill interest anylonger

2002-Jun-30, 10:21 AM
<a name="20020630.2:10"> page 20020630.2:10 aka Quake "F"
On 2002-04-10 05:31, HUb' wrote: To: 2:11 A.M. HUb' PSt
Well? Listen: by this time {[2:12 A.M.]} i've
become so skeptical that when i see a 4.5
"Mt. Hood" TV Quake report I check this Line
29th June 2002
14:36 [27]WASH-OREGON BDR REG 4.5 M 6.1

14:41 [29]WASH-OREGON BDR REG 3.2 M 2.7
18:49 [31]WASH-OREGON BDR REG 3.8 M
it comes from a link far above in this thread
but the format of the page has been changed
So that non GUI users [THAT's ME.] canNOT even
see on simple line of data about a 4.5 Quake
on Mt. Hood {in Oregon} Well actually the TV
did not Say Mt. HOOD in Or. it just said Mt. Hood {believe what you like}