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MG1962A
2006-Aug-12, 12:32 AM
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I have been coming across a growing movement that seems to consider the current troubles in both Iraq and Lebennon to be part of a single plan to allow certain people to take control of the world.

I have googled this everyway I can think off. All I have encountered is ramblings and off topic flames that make the 9/11 conspiracy seem rational.

Can anyone point me to a web site that is readable and actually outlines whatever this plan is. And (ha ha) Seems to allow reasonable debate on the topic

Lurker
2006-Aug-12, 12:52 AM
Any evidence to support this??

Wolverine
2006-Aug-12, 12:58 AM
While not updated to reflect claims about the most recent conflicts (which I've not seen), perhaps there's useful information here (http://skepdic.com/illuminati.html). Many of the same themes persist regardless of specific events.

Maha Vailo
2006-Aug-12, 01:06 AM
Well, since I don't see any white lab mice trying to hatch hare-brained schemes anywhere in the area, I can assume we're safe. ;)

- Maha "narf!" Vailo

MG1962A
2006-Aug-12, 01:16 AM
Any evidence to support this??

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=41807

http://www.radioislam.net/islam/english/toread/kivunim.htm

http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/tmf.html

These are some of the least umm err least extreme I came across

By the way Wolverine - thanks for the link - looks half rational

Wolverine
2006-Aug-12, 01:21 AM
New World Order, International bankers, Federal Reserve Banking System, Rothschilds, Illuminati, the Knights Templars... yep. A veritable roll call of all the same tired chimeras covered on Carroll's page.

Captain Kidd
2006-Aug-12, 01:33 AM
Can anyone point me to a web site that is readable and actually outlines whatever this plan is. And (ha ha) Seems to allow reasonable debate on the topic
I think your preceeding sentence answers your question:

I have googled this everyway I can think off. All I have encountered is ramblings and off topic flames that make the 9/11 conspiracy seem rational.If all you can find is lunacy and paranoia, then the inability to find rationality might be telling as to how much bunk the conspiracy theory is.

Nowhere Man
2006-Aug-12, 02:09 AM
Have your rumormongers dragged in the (totally bogus) Protocols of the Elders of Zion yet?

Search http://www.straightdope.com/ for more info.

Fred

Wolverine
2006-Aug-12, 03:28 AM
Or click here (http://skepdic.com/protocols.html).

Gerrsun
2006-Aug-12, 11:59 AM
I myself am a scary Conservative with a hidden right-wing agenda, but I masquerade as a mild-mannered 911 analyst for a small county in Georgia.

Just awaiting the call from the Stonecutters.....

Architect
2006-Aug-12, 12:46 PM
I agree. We need to set up some sort of international body to combat these secret societies seeking world domination. It'll have to be neutral, perhaps under UN control. We could call it the United Nations Centre for Law Enforcement and base it in (say) New York and Geneva, with carte-blanche to fight TPTB. And Smersh. Or Maybe Spectre.

Cl1mh4224rd
2006-Aug-12, 05:17 PM
Ahh... The Illuminati: The all-powerful, global, secret organization pulling the strings behind every event in recorded history in order to... umm... gain control of the world? :confused:

Disinfo Agent
2006-Aug-12, 05:30 PM
I have been coming across a growing movement that seems to consider the current troubles in both Iraq and Lebennon to be part of a single plan to allow certain people to take control of the world.

I have googled this everyway I can think off. All I have encountered is ramblings and off topic flames that make the 9/11 conspiracy seem rational.

Can anyone point me to a web site that is readable and actually outlines whatever this plan is. And (ha ha) Seems to allow reasonable debate on the topicThat's quite vague. Which kind of "people" and "plans" are you thinking of, specifically? Illuminati/lizard kind of stuff, or something more along the lines of the Project for the New American Century (http://www.newamericancentury.org/)?

Sigma_Orionis
2006-Aug-14, 10:26 PM
I agree. We need to set up some sort of international body to combat these secret societies seeking world domination. It'll have to be neutral, perhaps under UN control. We could call it the United Nations Centre for Law Enforcement and base it in (say) New York and Geneva, with carte-blanche to fight TPTB. And Smersh. Or Maybe Spectre.

Actually we could call it UNATCO (United Nations AntiTerrorist COalition) and base it in the Statue of Liberty in NYC, here is one (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JC_Denton) of the agents proposed for this organisation

Lurker
2006-Aug-16, 02:16 AM
I myself am a scary Conservative with a hidden right-wing agenda, but I masquerade as a mild-mannered 911 analyst for a small county in Georgia.

Just awaiting the call from the Stonecutters.....
It will never come... the Stonecutters are no more!!! :eh:

Sigma_Orionis
2006-Aug-16, 02:15 PM
Oh BTW Architect do you think that the organisation you propose must have US and Russian agents and guns like the UNCLE special? :)

Photon
2006-Aug-17, 11:54 AM
It will never come... the Stonecutters are no more!!!

Why, what happened to the Stonecutters? Now i'm really worried.:sad:

SpitfireIX
2006-Aug-17, 12:02 PM
Why, what happened to the Stonecutters? Now i'm really worried.:sad:

They stumbled onto "the truth" about JFK's assassination, and the Men in Black made them disappear. :D

Matherly
2006-Aug-17, 02:52 PM
No, No, No!

They morphed into the Ancient Mystic Society of No Homers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonecutters#The_end_of_the_Stonecutters)

Homer: Can I join?
Number One: Sorry. No Homers.

Lurker
2006-Aug-17, 03:55 PM
No, No, No!

They morphed into the Ancient Mystic Society of No Homers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonecutters#The_end_of_the_Stonecutters)

Homer: Can I join?
Number One: Sorry. No Homers.
It was a very dark day... but they really had no choice... :eh:

vonmazur
2006-Aug-17, 04:41 PM
When I was in Nam, I was an Aviator, I once had to haul Al Haig around.....He said; "Son, any plan that is know to anyone with a mimeograph machine and a mailing list, is not a plot to rule the world..." We were discussing the Trilateral Com-Rockefeller-NWO-etc plot to rule the world, Al did say one thing though, "If Tricky Dick is elected in '68, I will be a 4 star general, and Dr Strangelove will be Secretary of State...." At the time, no body remembered Dr. Kissinger who once worked for Kennedy.....This was in late 1967.....What brought this up was all the baloney that the "usual suspects" were promoting in the 50's, on late night radio and by mailing lists, all before the net was invented....I was hauling Col Haig around while he was in charge of some special project to remove all the dead rubber trees in the area north west of Saigon. This was a very boring operation, so we talked on the intercom a lot...

Dale