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Jeff Root
2006-Oct-08, 11:53 AM
I made two simple web-page periodic tables for quick reference
and for memorizing the element names and symbols. Do you prefer
one or the other? Is there anything you think could be improved?
Anything that you think should be added? You might want to open
them both at the same time in separate browser windows for direct
comparison.

http://www.freemars.org/jeff/elements/index.htm
http://www.freemars.org/jeff/elements/periodic.htm

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

01101001
2006-Oct-08, 03:28 PM
Metals and metalloids: too many oranges all the same. Color key samples too small to compare mentally with a color from the table. The second was slightly better for size and included key for H.

I think I preferred the hover effect of the longer name in the first. I didn't immediately notice the hover text change with the second. (If you do the second, allow the hover text to be copied.)

WaxRubiks
2006-Oct-08, 03:48 PM
surely there are only 4 catagories, earth,wind and fire? :)

Tobin Dax
2006-Oct-08, 04:39 PM
surely there are only 4 catagories, earth,wind and fire? :)
Is the hot air implied? ;)


Edit: To be on topic, I like periodic.htm better. The bigger legend helps and the colors are better to distinguish between. Still, all those oranges are hard to tell apart. A different color scheme might be a good idea, like using purple for the Nobles and a darker blue in there somewhere.

Eroica
2006-Oct-08, 04:56 PM
I prefer the colouring in periodic.htm (are 13, 31, 49, 50, 81, 82 and 83 transition metals?), but I prefer the pop-up tooltips on index.htm!

hhEb09'1
2006-Oct-08, 05:11 PM
Jeff, you all got to check out John Pratt's pages (http://www.johnpratt.com/atomic/periodic.html)! I think he's done an amazing job. Maybe add a link to his mnemonics.

Bearded One
2006-Oct-09, 12:59 AM
I prefer the second one. I don't like having to wait for the hover and the text is darker and bolder making it easier to read.

Swift
2006-Oct-09, 02:20 AM
Didn't seem very different to me. As Eroica said, Al, Ga, In, Tl, Sn, Pb, and Bi are not considered transition metals (they have filled d-orbitals). Most commonly they are considered metalloids. Te is sometimes considered a nonmetal, sometimes a metalloid, since in some compounds it acts more like a nonmetal.

Jeff Root
2006-Oct-09, 03:02 AM
Metals and metalloids: too many oranges all the same.
That's what I felt, too. It's one reason I lumped the transition
metals and other metals together in the first version, reducing
the number of colors by one. I could just lump ALL metals into
a single category, but as long as those other categories are
out there, I thought I'd show them. Perhaps I can increase the
contrast between the different colors a bit more.



Color key samples too small to compare mentally with a color
from the table. The second was slightly better for size and
included key for H.
The color key samples are the same size in the two versions.
Do they need to be larger? Lettering in the second version is
more widely-spaced and slightly heavier.

Hydrogen doesn't really need a key entry, of course, but I added
it when I added the new key item for metals.



I think I preferred the hover effect of the longer name in the
first.
I find the delay before popping up in my browser (IE) annoying,
which is why I made the second version. Do they pop up quickly
in your browser, or are you more patient?



I didn't immediately notice the hover text change with the second.
(If you do the second, allow the hover text to be copied.)
The fact that it is sometimes possible to copy the text in the
second version is accidental, a result of the browser not always
detecting the mouse moving off of the graphic. I would like the
text to be copyable, but I don't know an easy way to do it.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

Jeff Root
2006-Oct-09, 03:02 AM
I prefer the colouring in periodic.htm (are 13, 31, 49, 50, 81,
82 and 83 transition metals?),
No, but I didn't have a name for them, and I wanted to hold down
the number of categories. When I added the category in the newer
version, I decided to just call it "metals".



but I prefer the pop-up tooltips on index.htm!
Because they are close to the mouse pointer? Or do you have
another reason?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

Jeff Root
2006-Oct-09, 03:20 AM
I prefer the second one. I don't like having to wait for the
hover and the text is darker and bolder making it easier to read.
You can change the font, size, weight, and colors of popup
tooltips in Windows Display Properties. It may be different
in newer versions, but in Windows 98 SE, on the Appearance tab,
click the box labeled "Item:" to drop down the list of items,
and select "ToolTip".

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis