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2002-Feb-18, 02:11 PM
<a name="20020218.7:37"> page 20020218.7:37 aka Rad
message to follow LATER

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/w08a.jup.txt
good page on outer-space radiation exposures
does csu mean Calif State University ?
how far from Sonoma
still I have no link into Sonoma {darnit}
try this link
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=623&forum=1#20020221.5:45

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Wiley
2002-Feb-18, 10:22 PM
It's the California State University at Fresno.

GrapesOfWrath
2002-Feb-19, 11:50 AM
On 2002-02-18 09:11, HUb' wrote:
how far from Sonoma

From Fresno to Sonoma? As the crow flies? By road, or to the moon and back? Or via internet?

As the crow flies, about 180 miles (http://www.indo.com/distance/), by road 216 miles.

2002-Feb-19, 01:48 PM
<a name="how.far2"> page how.far2
On 2002-02-19 06:50, GrapesOfWrath wrote: To: 7:13 A.M.

7:15 A.M. HUb': yeah, I get the same results, Thanks much!!


From Fresno to Sonoma? As the crow flies? By road, or to the moon and back? Or via internet?

As the crow flies, about 180 miles (http://www.indo.com/distance/), by road 216 miles.
http://www.nw.uklinux.net/bbs/messages/3738.html

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2002-Feb-20, 03:20 PM
<a name="20020220.8:42"> page 20020220.8:42 aka RAD 5?
F1 against Ms (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?forum=1&1976/)
311 Laser Reflector (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=311&forum=3&22/)
Enron ? A story (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=465&forum=1&2)
enron again (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=465&forum=1&2)
529 LINKS (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=529&forum=1&7/)
576 hoax (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=567&forum=3&21#20020210.7:51/)
589 Cassini (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=589&forum=1&12)
?590 (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=590&forum=1&4)
612 RAD this 1 (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=612&forum=1&0#20020218.7:37/)
attempt are error correction February 21, 2002
May 28, 2002 error correcting 5:11 A.M.
May 29, 2002 : 7:50 A.M.
no mater what the case may be

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2002-Feb-24, 12:38 PM
<a name="20020224.6:03"> page 20020224.6:03 aka hop to index ?
LOCKTHRD = HUb' Ba INDX (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=183&forum=1#LOCKTHRD)

F1 against mainstream (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewforum.php?forum=1&1976/)
311 Laser Reflectors (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=311&forum=3&22/)
465 Enron er? (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=465&forum=1&2)
511 error? ? (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=511&forum=1&2)
529 LINKS (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=529&forum=1&7/)
576 hoax (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=567&forum=3&21#20020210.7:51/)
589 Cassini (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=589&forum=1&12)
590 error? (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=590&forum=1&4 )
612 RAD this 1 (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=612&forum=1&0#20020218.7:37/)
attempt are error correction February 21, 2002
ANOTHER ATTEMPT February 24, 2002
it will be revised | it WAS 4 errors EXIST ?
no mater what the case may be

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2002-May-13, 05:06 PM
<a name="20020513.8:55"> page 20020513.8:55 aka May Rem
On 2002-02-24 07:38, HUb' wrote: To: May
<a name="20020224.6:03"> page 20020224.6:03 aka hop to index ?
LOCKTHRD = HUb' Ba INDX (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=183&forum=1#LOCKTHRD)
8:57 A.M. Probably the timing on this PUSH TO 1
will be just as bad as my IBM one
the story started like this ON
a friday I decided to by 5 IBM 110 calls
thinking that I mite proffit fom that
On Monday IBM anounced "EXPECTATIONS"
and in a few days the Shares outstanding

time $per share drop on my solar powered
ticked out as 25billion 240 million
-------------------------------------
now its not the first time i've "experienced"
number that happen to me like those
=====================================
it was my first 25 24 {in that order}
and at those magnitudes (that happend to me)
it of course reminded me instanty of a GalYear
defigned by some as 250 "million" years &
by me simply as 24e7 { ok never mind } number associasions
I saw something recently about SUN SPOT numbers and laught at that something about 220 Sun spots Ha Ha L8R

2002-May-20, 02:41 PM
<a name="20020520.6:30"> page 20020520.6:30 aka
On 2002-05-13 13:06, HUb' wrote: To: 6:30 A.M. PST
1: OK? 6:33 A.M. PST bear in mind..| 5:37 A.M. PST...: 6:34 A.M.
2: that i just do counts...........| 2-5-21...| 2-5-22
3: I DO NOT TRY TO say.............| today linked {above}
4: ug/KG...........................| to.........| attempting to
5: or any BIO TALKS.......| http://www.siriusresearchgroup.com
6: and the things I COUNT..........| and i do think.....| control
7: (um? class as events)...........| That El Sol...| space
8: ARE Earth Quakes on Earth.......| & Sirius... between
9: having a range limit............| do travel together.....| my post
10 from 5.6 to 6.5.................| and may orbit....| from
1: ----------------................| one another.... dense
2:and i'll try.....................| together...| 3 togther
3:to make those counts.............| "they"... to sparce
4: this year in....................| very recently...| at least 3
5: the Months of...................| crossed the Galatic......| post
6: OCT.............................| == EQUATOR ==... Between
7: NOV
8: & DEC
9: NOW BACK TO THIS THREAD
20 I FOUND A LINK HERE TO:
http://www.nw.uklinux.net/bbs/messages/3738.html
AND WILL TRY this June contract month
to update those Rad?REM i mean
REM rad
remarks
2-5-22 today May 22, 2002 its nearer Sparce than dense
2-5-23 WOULD have increased {if possible} dist from trun2 to REM now 31-25=6

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2002-May-24, 01:38 PM
A push to the top
to achieve a reduction
in DENSITY { increase sparcity }
of my posts
LAST REPLY groupings

2002-May-25, 10:48 AM
astronomers (I just read their stuff)
will be in LA on the 2nd of June
book promotion / astrophysicist Ph.D.
from U of Tennessee (Taner Edis)
(Ron Ebert) from UC Riverside.
dinner at the "Magic Castle" in LA
http://www.magiccastle.com/f/
http://www.magicdave.com/astro.htm
http://www.snopes2.com/index.html
snippits od data that came my way May 25, 2002

2002-May-26, 10:31 AM
<a name="20020526.2:26"> page 20020526.2:26 aka Push 4Dense
On 2002-05-25 06:48, HUb' wrote: To: Hu? page 1?
astronomers (I just read their stuff)
2:05 A.M.HUb'2-6-11 so yeah here on page 2
near the bottom ?U of Tennessee (Taner Edis)___(Ron Ebert) from UC Riverside.
36]links to Time Ticks2 HUb' 132 2002-05-26 06:48
37]D.B. vs alien($)23 HUb' 419 2002-05-26 06:39
38]Turn2Math 14 HUb' 399 2002-05-26 06:35
39]Rem ? Rad ? Curie 10 HUb' 368 2002-05-26 06:31
looking at level 4 ? density was?48-39=9,39-35=4,35-31=4 {min}

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2002-Jul-08, 12:03 AM
<a name="20020707.3:53"> page 20020707.3:53 aka B4 2RAD2
On 2002-05-26 06:31, HUb' wrote: To 3:53 P.M. HUb'
Push 2 page 1 July 7, 2002
On 2002-05-25 06:48, HUb' wrote: To: Hu? page 1?
astronomers (I just read their stuff)
3:55 P.M. ANYWAY ? in preperation for ":MY:"
reBUTTall to the collective CONscieieieincenes
about Radio Activty, and Ionizing Radations in general,
AND YES, whith an aside for Magnetic An's
and other unrelated to.picks this number

looking at level 4 ? density was?48-39=9,39-35=4,35-31=4 {min}

3:58 P.M. PST July 7, 2002 / 6 AHAU 14 TZEC

2002-Jul-08, 01:43 PM
On 2002-07-07 20:03, HUb' wrote: To HUb'
<a name="20020708.A"> page 20020708.A was page 20020707.3:53
On 2002-05-26 06:31, HUb' wrote: To 3:53 P.M. HUb'
Push 2 page 1 July 7, 2002
On 2002-05-25 06:48, HUb' wrote: To: Hu? page 1?
astronomers (I just read their stuff)
3:55 P.M. ANYWAY ? in preperation for ":MY:"
Yeah? yeah you can call this MAth excersize
the rate of change in RAD density..
or some such complex calculation FROM data
[14]Astral travel

[15]2RAD2 0 HUb'
[31]Rem ? Rad ? Cu
so at about 5:37 A.M. PST entry #31 was moved UP
to occupy position #14 and 14 moved to 15 & 15 to 16 for a while {maybe}

2002-Oct-07, 11:07 AM
<a name="2-10-07.B"> POST 2-10-07.B aka update
On 2002-07-08 09:43, HUb' wrote: To: Update
push to top to find
1 Radiation
2 Comes in many forms
3 Alpha
4 Beta
5 etc
6 & I measure it by COUNT
7 1,2,3 etc
8 Normal back ground?
9 my guess its 0 to 10 COUNTS/sec
_ END of todays Debait
1 Last Night {Sunday 2-10-06 on CBS}
2 sixty minutes there was a program segment
3 about HUBBLE telescope program
4 {kind od and ART ve Science}?
5 and the casual mention that Hubble moves
6 at a rate of 5miles per second
7 {at least thats the way i remember the figure used

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2002-Oct-08, 02:46 AM
<a name="2-10-07.6:52"> page 2-10-07.6:52 aka Push2




1 Radiation

3 Alpha

2002-Oct-08, 11:52 AM
<a name="2-10-08.A"> POST 2-10-08.A aka ? REM
On 2002-02-18 09:11, HUb' wrote: to HUb'
EXPRESS MY DOUBT!
message #1 to follow LATER

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/w08a.jup.txt
this site uses REM as the UNIT to measure
FORGET it use Count!
M#2
i'll look for .RU X-ray counts? on the Moon2

http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?topic=623&forum=1#20020221.5:45
Here? we look to see where the prez has his
schedule set to be { for example 4:32 on 10/11 }
yes its P.M. { its a university Prez REMember? }

2002-Nov-11, 11:30 PM
ON 2002-10-08 07:52, HUB' WROTE: To: Sat V
<a name="20021111.AC"> page 20021111.AC aka A Currie
On 2002-02-18 09:11, HUb' wrote: to HUb'
EXPRESS MY DOUBT!
message #1 to follow LATER

http://zimmer.csufresno.edu/~fringwal/w08a.jup.txt
this site uses REM as the UNIT to measure
FORGET it use Count! My experiance? 4Miles / 111,000 Kt
plus broken plastic washdown pipes = 2much2 measure
and so I can say WITHOUT much doubt A person can
witstand VERY LARGE QUANTITIES of radiation
FROM THE SUN or a microw WAVE oven even high
speed hEAVY PARTICLES from solar CME's
although those if they hit you can confuse your
systems for a while {and your noise will "RUN"}
So, dont swaet the REM/RAD ** its just ** Best use Sun Screans in Summer though

2003-Feb-06, 01:20 AM
<a name="JD2452676.R1?"> page JD2452676.R1? aka 5:24 P.M.
On 2002-02-19 08:48, HUb' wrote:

On 2002-02-19 06:50, GrapesOfWrath wrote: To: 7:13 A.M.

7:15 A.M. HUb': yeah, I get the same results, Thanks much!!

5:25 P.M. February 5, 2003 Pst less than five minutes ago
Local News Ch 6 {CBS affiliate} reported
a False Radation report from Hanford Wa.
{again this was a False report}
------------------------------
Speakingabout Hanford ?/? last time i checked the
Hanford "ROOM" had been removed from the Milner{sp} library
at PSU.. I've no idea what happend to the Computer data that WAS there..Junk/ my guess.. Moving along {All Stop/ no place to park}

DaveC
2003-Feb-06, 03:09 AM
HUb', I'm curious about something. When you have these long conversations with yourself do you find that you are a better listener or speaker? When I read the title of this thread some time ago, I initially thought I might be able to contribute something because my education included nuclear engineering and radiation protection. But I seem to have gotten rusty at HUb'ish (not that I was ever very fluent) and was reluctant to show my stupidity by not properly addressing the issues you raise. However, I am pleased that you have found someone intelligent to carry on the conversation with. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

g99
2003-Feb-06, 03:21 AM
no place to park at a university campus? How horrendus!! /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif


How do you report a false radiation report (redundant anyone?)? I would think that radiation would or would not be there. Did someone step on a rattlesnake and think the rattling was a geiger counter?

2003-Feb-06, 03:02 PM
<a name="JD2452677.1K"> page JD2452677.1K aka 1 keystroke
On 2003-02-05 22:09, DaveC wrote: To? HUb':HUb'
it just took one keystroke to delete it all ^U
well? whatever ?7:08 A.M. yesterday wednesday
I had to take the `82 Cresida back to the shop to
"get the idle speed adjusted" {um to 800 RPM}
talk about feeling stupid..I could NOT find the
screw to turn to slow the 6 cylinder down from 1600?
{oh well} If you logging in to get a HUb' stamp
of Cred.WHERE see my 9:10 pdx post up in BAD BAD {later2day}

2003-Feb-06, 03:10 PM
<a name="JD2452677.NN"> page JD2452677.NN aka No No
On 2003-02-05 22:21, g99 wrote: 2
no place to park at a university camp
Nope: no place to park here wednesday
after taking the Cresida to get the idle
speed turned down { i jus go to pdx.edu Tue & Thur }
& I should getout of bed & dress {I `poise}
and walk the Two Miles.. the parking at meters near
PSU runs about 6min for 10Cents as i recall
I never drive though so i dont really know but aound a buck an hour is ballPARK #

kilopi
2003-Feb-06, 03:31 PM
Last time I went to a ballpark, they wanted more than that.

g99
2003-Feb-06, 10:56 PM
$0.10 for 6 min? that's expensive for a meter.

We have parking decals here. All meters are being taken over. We just pay a exorbitant price for a non-guarenteed spot and you can park at a certian spot. But the university does not think logistics. They give out a average of 6,000-10,000 decals for about 3,000 spots. You do the math.

2003-Feb-07, 10:09 AM
<a name="JD2452678.Tv"> page JD2452678.Tv aka Tv?
On 2003-02-06 10:31, kilopi wrote:
Last time I went to a ballpark, they wanted more than that.
Shirley, parking for a Trail Blazer Basketball Game
would be more ? {I suppose} I never ever go..
don't even watch, when they are on TV.. Just
not a Sports Spectator..{sorry} Now back to Cops
on CAMpus.. yeah most every day now as the Made
for prime time "Nightly" ratchets up to the
"Fanalli?" {but when} the 70's one was in May {my only clue}

2003-Feb-07, 10:18 AM
<a name="JD2452678.HL"> page JD2452678.HL aka Hall Locker?
On 2003-02-06 17:56, g99 wrote: To? PST
yeah, some shell game i would `poise?
anyway Thursday? I did check up on a hall Locker price
{none available} & they are$12 per Quarter
I paid $17 for my Gym locker .. but the Gym
has been dedicated for contraversy in the upcoming
Cop on campUS {Made for prime time}(Nightly)
So i guess i'll avoid that arena {even though my fee was paid}(yuck)
Today {Friday 3-2-07} theres supposed to be free lunch in 59ch details at noon? {maybe}

g99
2003-Feb-07, 03:33 PM
"and don't call me shirly..." /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

2003-Feb-08, 10:43 AM
On 2003-02-07 10:33, g99 wrote:
surely not..
come to think of it
i dont even have your phone number
----------------------------------
theres a phone in the Geo-Lab { thats a + }
and it does ring once in a while
i dont recall the phone number tho try
http://www.ess.pdx.edu/coriba/ .. that the same room (CH59) other 1/2 ?
iba phone line at 503-725-8797 befor

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2003-Feb-12, 11:31 AM
<a name="JD2452683.R&R"> page JD2452683.R&R aka R&R
On 2003-02-08 05:43, HUb' wrote:
On 2003-02-07 10:33, g99 wrote:
well sync took
Making HTTP connection to http://www.badastronomy.com
and no reason not2 say RED
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in fact if i knew wat i was doing
i would send some red
maybe even fade {to or from}
==============================
oppsi hmm? ok back to what ?
time of day 3:40 A.M.
http://nist.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Pacific/d/-8
so later {U know there a six min time lag from this 386 to PSt } hu?

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g99
2003-Feb-14, 03:15 AM
6 min time lag! what are you using to connect? Firesignals?

David Hall
2003-Feb-14, 09:42 AM
I think he means the time on his 386 computer has drifted 6 minutes from the time at the PSU clocks.

He's been going on about clock drifts for months now.

2003-Feb-14, 05:34 PM
<a name="JD2452685.TD"> page JD2452685.TD aka tIME dRIFT
On 2003-02-14 04:42, David Hall wrote:
I think he means the time on his 386 computer has drifted 6 minutes from the time at the PSU clocks.

He's been going on about clock drifts for months now.

i SET the 386 fast about six minutes as its easier to
get the drift with some offset to start with.
I once had it exact but then its harder to subtract
and by now its 16 second shy of 6 min as it slows min/month{ish}

g99
2003-Feb-14, 08:59 PM
Thanks David. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

That's actually interesting. I didn't know that the computers back then could be off by so much. I would of thought that the time difference would of been corrected by that time period of PC's. Hmm...Makes me wonder how far off my computer is from the standard atomic clock.

While on this topic, i keep my alarm clock 8 minutes fast so i can get up in time for my class and not be late when i leave when i am supposed to. But then again i know it is fast and adjust for that by getting lazyer. So the question is, why don't i set it back to normal time? Answer: Lazy. /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif

David Hall
2003-Feb-14, 09:45 PM
I really don't know much about the inner workings of computers myself so I have no idea what causes clock drift. There are dozens of atomic clock synchronizing programs out there if you really want to check yours. My computer drifts maybe about 45-90 seconds/month.

Here are a few programs I dug up in a quick google search. Give it a try.

http://www.spdialer.com/sptsnc.html
http://www.sinnercomputing.com/iTimeSync.htm
http://members.aon.at/dfg/products/a_atomictime_e.htm

2003-Feb-15, 03:35 PM
<a name="20030215.MtN"> page 20030215.MtN aka New Man Time
On 2003-02-14 16:45, David Hall wrote: To?: 7:38 A.M. PsT
So? Disk A: na? hu? well fine to me..
now let me thin' i thi`K i've spotted Fl. in the LOG
dh} Here are a few programs I dug up in a quick google search. Give it a try.
my guess now is that D.R. discovered I was reading the LOG
so now the log has been changed {guessing}
SO theres only one line per connection
in place of the old TWO {on off} (REchecking)
or perhaps theres a dropped carrier = 1 line
its rather confusing to me.. Head cold and all (all back Sneeze)

cable
2003-Feb-15, 07:25 PM
My computer drifts maybe about 45-90 seconds/month......

too much. probably your computer is receiving very strong graviatational waves,
and the screen pointing to a quasar ..... /phpBB/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif

g99
2003-Feb-15, 07:37 PM
Or it is PX. They are evil.

David Hall
2003-Feb-16, 08:01 PM
Nah, you're probably right. I think I overestimated my drift. It's probably more like 15-30 seconds on average. I resynch at random intervals (i.e. whenever I feel like it) though, so it's hard to judge the overall effect.

However, I synchronized my clock yesterday after my last post, and I did it again just now, and the drift today was about 13 seconds. I'm pretty sure the rate varies quite a bit.

DStahl
2003-Feb-17, 03:26 AM
Computer clock drift: As I understand it (and I'm quite rusty on this) the computer clock is a crystalline wafer which acts as a rowmaster for the motherboard. Each time the clock yells "ROW!" the computer does another clock-cycle of operations.

But the clock really isn't well-designed for keeping time over the long haul; it's designed not to miss 'ticks' and, I suppose, to fulfill some other really important engineering considerations. As a result it really doesn't keep very good time, and--

--er, I just began to suspect I am forgetting an essential point here, like a separate clock on the motherboard or something. I'm going to Google for a bit; be right back.

Ha. OK. Yes, the motherboard clock is not an especially good timekeeper, usually gaining or losing time if the computer is left on for days at a time. There IS a separate clock, the real-time clock, which is powered by a small battery on the MB so it can continue to keep time when the computer is turned off. This one is usually better at time-keeping ('cos that's its designed purpose), and since the motherboard clock is set to the battery-operated real-time clock at boot-up then the well-booted computer will tend to keep time pretty well.

However, HUb', I notice that that battery-powered real-time clock can lose several minutes per day if the battery is just about dead. Be careful--we don't want you to disappear from the forum!

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2003-Feb-18, 01:03 AM
<a name="JD2452688.2C"> page JD2452688.2C aka 2 clocks
On 2003-02-16 22:26, DStahl wrote:
yeah?true enough I change the battery in this 386
about ever 5 years or so.. As they do go bad
instead of using expensive 4.5's I use 3 1.5's in series
so far it works out just fine.. I think this is set 3?
or about 15 years lets see 2003-15=1988? that seams about right?
So the three week flue has put a crimp in operations
maybe its for the best.. at least i know who i got it from..

However, HUb', I notice that that battery-powered real-time clock can lose several minutes per day if the battery is just about dead. Be careful--we don't want you to disappear from the forum!

and really? theres no big rush to get php up & running?
if its even possible{ which remains to be found out }