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Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 08:00 PM
Report: Drunk astronauts allowed on shuttle (http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/07/26/astronaut.drinking.ap/index.html)
That was the headline on CNN today (searched forum, didn't see any threads yet).

Aviation Week & Space Technology, a weekly trade journal, reported the finding from the panel on its Web site. The weekly said that the committee found that on at least two occasions, astronauts were allowed to fly after flight surgeons and other astronauts warned they were so intoxicated that they posed a flight-safety risk.


The article then goes on to explaine that the committee was formed after the whole love-triangle incident, and spends as much time talking about that (but not adding anything new) as it did explaining the drinking accuistations. So, not much info from the article on it. But personally, if I was about to climb ontop of however many tons of rocket fuel and blast myself off the face of the earth (litterally) I'd probably get drunk first too. ;)

Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 08:06 PM
Follow Up:
I wonder if they are refering to these two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Space_Homer)?

http://www.b12partners.net/mt/Deep_Space_Homer.png http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/f/fc/222px-Barney_Gumble.png

novaderrik
2007-Jul-26, 08:29 PM
http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/62625-drunk-astronauts-allowed-shuttle.html

someone beat you by 45 minutes..

Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 08:31 PM
I know. I found it after I posted the second post, with the pics. I don't understand why a search for "Drunk Astronauts" didn't turn up a thread titled "Drunk Astronauts Allowed on Shuttle ???". But oh well. I got to reference a Simpsons eppie, so still happy even with the toseek.

Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 09:14 PM
Okay okay, MORE more bad press.
Breaking News banner on CNN: NASA says it has found wires which may have been deliberately cut on computers bound for the international space station.

No accompanying story yet, though.

jrkeller
2007-Jul-26, 09:16 PM
Okay okay, MORE more bad press.
Breaking News banner on CNN: NASA says it has found wires which may have been deliberately cut on computers bound for the international space station.

No accompanying story yet, though.

Here's the AP story (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070726/ap_on_re_us/space_sabotage;_ylt=AommXPdtySXd9hJ_V6D1mGqs0NUE).

Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 09:18 PM
I just saw it when I got home and went to look for some .VST's. CNN's my firefox homepage, and hadta redeem my thread from it's tooseeked status ;)

novaderrik
2007-Jul-26, 09:48 PM
I just saw it when I got home and went to look for some .VST's. CNN's my firefox homepage, and hadta redeem my thread from it's tooseeked status ;)

http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/62634-cnn-breaking-news.html

you got ToSeeked again- by only 20 minutes this time...
better luck next time..

Fazor
2007-Jul-26, 10:15 PM
sonofabiscuit. Oh well, tomorrow's another day... :)

Paracelsus
2007-Jul-26, 10:29 PM
I was going to say 'unbelievable', but the ramshackle, disorganized state of most Federal agencies these days makes me believe otherwise.

I believe the part that failed on the LHC during the test run was also made in the US.

Pitiful!

captain swoop
2007-Jul-26, 11:10 PM
BBC News site report (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6918490.stm)

The Backroad Astronomer
2007-Jul-27, 01:33 AM
My Mike Griffin impression for today.
:wall::wall::wall::wall::wall:

Paracelsus
2007-Jul-27, 10:27 AM
From the BBC news site:


The computer is designed to collect and relay data from sensors which detect vibrations and forces on the space station's external trusses.

:eek:

That does not appear to be a 'non-essential' function to me!!

IMHO, NASA needs to abort the launch and go over that computer AND the shuttle with a fine-tooth comb. We don't need another Columbia disaster!

Glom
2007-Jul-27, 10:49 AM
We have to be off alcohol for 24 hours before a flight offshore. Obviously the North Sea has a stricter safety culture than NASA.

Maksutov
2007-Jul-27, 11:35 AM
NASA: 1986
Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster)NASA: 1990
Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1200/is_n23_v138/ai_9232702)NASA: 1999

Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9909/30/mars.metric.02/)NASA: 2000
Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msp98/index.html)NASA: 2003

Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://media.www.universitychronicle.com/media/storage/paper231/news/2003/04/24/Briefly/Nation.World-425457.shtml)NASA: 2007
Trust us, we know what we're doing. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/jul/27/spaceexploration.internationalnews)NASA: 2008
Trust us, we need the funding. And, as we said, that whole global warming thing is a crock. (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10571499) Glub, glub.

tbm
2007-Jul-28, 03:50 PM
Why is it whenever an elite group of people reach a certain status, they have the following motto:

Rule #1. We can do no wrong.
Rule #2. When caught doing wrong, see rule # 1.

tbm

Captain Kidd
2007-Jul-29, 08:20 PM
Why is it whenever an elite group of people reach a certain status, they have the following motto:

Rule #1. We can do no wrong.
Rule #2. When caught doing wrong, see rule # 1.

tbmWell, from the non-"elite" group:
Group X is getting too 1337 (elite), let's look for any little thing to discredit them.

Not that blasting off blasted is a good thing. (I've been dying to use that one.) But it seems any group or person in a position of power/authority/attention suddenly gets every single tiny character flaw, real or imagined, pointed out. From tabloids to political mud slinging, I guess humans just love watching "how the mighty fall."

Maksutov
2007-Jul-29, 11:03 PM
Well, from the non-"elite" group:
Group X is getting too 1337 (elite), let's look for any little thing to discredit them.

Not that blasting off blasted is a good thing. (I've been dying to use that one.) But it seems any group or person in a position of power/authority/attention suddenly gets every single tiny character flaw, real or imagined, pointed out. From tabloids to political mud slinging, I guess humans just love watching "how the mighty fall."I'd like to comment on your post but I don't recall what it was about. Also there's something in this thread about NASA but I don't recall having seen that. Finally I don't recall having written this post.

Do you have another question?

tbm
2007-Jul-30, 01:55 AM
Well, from the non-"elite" group:
Group X is getting too 1337 (elite), let's look for any little thing to discredit them.

Not that blasting off blasted is a good thing. (I've been dying to use that one.) But it seems any group or person in a position of power/authority/attention suddenly gets every single tiny character flaw, real or imagined, pointed out. From tabloids to political mud slinging, I guess humans just love watching "how the mighty fall."

I agree. The big story is always about how people fail once spectacularly instead of how they repeatedly succeed mundanely.

But, Jeez o peets, what a bad time for this story to get out.

tom

mugaliens
2007-Jul-30, 04:12 AM
I agree. The big story is always about how people fail once spectacularly instead of how they repeatedly succeed mundanely.

But, Jeez o peets, what a bad time for this story to get out.

tom

If the other story hadn't occurred, the subcommittee hadn't been formed, this story probably wouldn't have gotten out.

I've little doubt that astronauts have had a toast or three before climbing into their suits before slipping the surly bonds since the days of Sputnik (ok, so the astronauts were flying jets back then...).

Celestial Mechanic
2007-Jul-30, 04:15 AM
This might make a fine sea-chantey:

What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

Maksutov
2007-Jul-30, 04:51 AM
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

You strap him in and light him off,
You strap him in and light him off,
You strap him in and light him off,
And hope he gets coherent.

What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

If your name is Wernher von Braun,
If your name is Wernher von Braun,
If your name is Wernher von Braun,
You hook him into the fuel tank.

What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
"But it's A-OK, he's passed out."

What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

If the mission is a success,
If the mission is a success,
You find what it was he drank,
And order it for the next flight crew. http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/nahrung/a025.gif

Paracelsus
2007-Jul-30, 08:23 AM
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut?
What do you do with a drunken astronaut,
Reporting to the launchpad?

You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
You radio Houston "We've got a problem.",
"But it's A-OK, he's passed out."

ROFLMAO!! :lol: