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Paracelsus
2007-Aug-12, 10:55 PM
This stupid bloody piece of software!! It keeps freezing on me for no reason. The browser window suddenly zips out of sight if I move the cursor wrong.
The window layout sucks.

AND IT JUST FROZE ON ME AGAIN!!!!!!

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:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

LucasVB
2007-Aug-13, 01:19 AM
Agreed. Solutions:

http://www.opera.com/
http://www.getfirefox.com/

Maksutov
2007-Aug-13, 03:27 AM
This stupid bloody piece of software!! It keeps freezing on me for no reason. The browser window suddenly zips out of sight if I move the cursor wrong.
The window layout sucks.

AND IT JUST FROZE ON ME AGAIN!!!!!!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:mad:...But, remember, it's Apple software, and therefore it will do exactly what you, the end user, need it to do, as already determined by the psychic Apple programmers.

We already know what you need and want, we're Apple.

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

Our system is so stable it makes us ill.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/6814/macbombqt3.th.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=macbombqt3.jpg)

djellison
2007-Aug-13, 06:59 AM
Safari on Windows is still beta. Personally - I don't like Safari full stop, I use Camino on my Macbook.

That image is about as appropriate as showing an image of Win 3.1 to make a comment about Vista. Most anti-Apple 'comedy' is written by people who've never actually used a Mac. I hated Mac's until about 18 months ago. Don't know why. I'd never even used one. I got a Macbook in May - and I've never been happier about a piece of hardware and an OS.

Doug

Serenitude
2007-Aug-13, 07:03 AM
Don't forget that the original Windows "public beta" was released unfuzzed, and was one of the most unsecure windows releases in history ;-)

And I love Macs :)

Maksutov
2007-Aug-13, 07:12 AM
Safari on Windows is still beta. Personally - I don't like Safari full stop, I use Camino on my Macbook.

That image is about as appropriate as showing an image of Win 3.1 to make a comment about Vista. Most anti-Apple 'comedy' is written by people who've never actually used a Mac. I hated Mac's until about 18 months ago. Don't know why. I'd never even used one. I got a Macbook in May - and I've never been happier about a piece of hardware and an OS.

DougI used Macs (at work) for ten years and did not like the experience.

I remember seeing a Mercedes-Benz driver by the side of the road during that time. The car had broken down and all he could do was wait for a tow truck, rather than attempt to fix the car himself. Of course, since he looked like a yuckie, he probably wouldn't have had a clue if he could, or if he did, would have considered such a task as being below his social station.

I was reminded of a Mac user when the software/system/hardware goes kaput.

Maksutov
2007-Aug-13, 07:14 AM
[edit]And I love Macs :)Love is strange. (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/dirtydancing/loveisstrange.htm)

djellison
2007-Aug-13, 10:23 AM
I used Macs (at work) for ten years and did not like the experience. .

As I said - 10 years ago I hated Mac's. They were unstable, unusable, awkward, ugly horrid. OS8 OS9 - not good. OSX 10.4 is damn good.

Today - I find more issues with XP than than OSX. I take my Macbook to work - just so I can offload some work onto it because it's faster and easier to do so than under XP.

The car analogy doesn't work. Should everyone who uses any PC be PC hardware aware? My mum doesn't know a CPU from an HDD from a Mobo....and she uses XP. Ditto my boss. I built 3 new PC's for work ( C2D and C2Q's ) from component parts...but I consider myself a Mac user. If you want to continue the car analogy - one could say that most Wintel/XP users are the guys who spend so much time tinkering their car that they never actually drive anywhere. I had to spend a day troubleshooting my work machine to find out why the machine (a Q6600 ) was crawling on its knees every time I wrote to or read from a particular HDD. Turns out it was RAID drivers. Had to go to the mobo manufacturers website ( windows update didn't identify any driver requirement ) - download a driver (most of the links didn't work - and the one that did was at 8kb/sec) - and install it. Wasted several hours of my life swopping drives around to identify a problem that should never have existed. I've got another machine here that randomly restarts when using Adobe Audition - no idea why - and another that will, from time to time, for no reason, kill hard drives. I'll browse the network on my work machine and for no reason, windows explorer will lock up. No error message, no warning, everything just freezes. Tried using our Epson CX11N as a network printer. Worked first time, perfectly, from my Macbook. Tried for an hour and gave up with XP. Wanted to animate a Mars panorama in Powerpoint - 15,000 x 3,000 pixels. Scroll it across the screen. Powerpoint would do it for about one screen width, then give up and show blank space instead of the image. Keynote on my Macbook can do the whole thing, seamlessly, without stuttering.

You're working from stereotypes and outdated experiences.

Like I've said - if someone had said 18 months ago that I'd be a mac user today - I'd have laughed in their face and shown them that old spoof advert where the guy describes an old iMac as having a handle so it can be used as a boat anchor. Today - I can't imagine using anything else.


Doug

weatherc
2007-Aug-13, 12:02 PM
I use Mac OS X every day, and for the most part I like it. I wouldn't say I love it any more than I love my car; it just does what I need it to do most of the time without having to mess with it very much. However, I don't like Safari due to stability problems on every version of OS X I've used, and I use Firefox instead. Before that, I used Camino. I only use Safari if I'm on a machine that isn't my own, and I certainly wouldn't recommend it to PC users, either (at least, not yet).

djellison: one of the nasty bugs in OS X that still hasn't been fixed is if you're connected to a shared network drive, and then that drive becomes unavailable, the Finder locks up for several minutes, and there's nothing you can do until it finally gives up and tells you that the drive is gone. Stupid, stupid behavior, really. And if you need to use a lot of fonts, font management is a nightmare, even when using a third-party solution such as Extensis Suitcase. I understand some of the technical reasons why font management is the way it is in OS X, but one would think a company like Apple could figure out a better way.

djellison
2007-Aug-13, 12:48 PM
I don't get that. If I connect to a network drive at work - and then just shut the lid, go home, and open again - it simply pops up saying it's not available and I carry on working. Certainly not a lock up of any sort.

I'm sure there are plenty of issues I'm yet to find with OSX - but in 4 months of using it - I've not found anything that makes me miss my XP laptop one iota.

Doug

weatherc
2007-Aug-13, 12:58 PM
I don't get that. If I connect to a network drive at work - and then just shut the lid, go home, and open again - it simply pops up saying it's not available and I carry on working. Certainly not a lock up of any sort.The problem doesn't occur when you disconnect from the network drive, even if you just shut the lid of the computer; the problem is when the network drive goes off the network unexpectedly. And if you work at a company with a bad IT department (one that can just barely manage to keep the PCs running, let alone Macs, as I have), this seems to happen a lot.

You can try this at home if you have a second Mac (or even another PC) to work with: Set up file sharing between the two machines. Then, turn off the shared computer. Now, go to the Mac and try to access the shared computer. Go for a cup of coffee while the Mac tries to find the other computer on the network. Then curse Apple for not fixing this problem yet (it's existed since OS X was first introduced).

djellison
2007-Aug-13, 01:22 PM
ahh right - that is a bit wierd - they should have fixed that by now if it's a well documented issue. But hey - at least you know it'll happen. Networking with XP seems to be controlled by good luck pixies half the time :)

Doug

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-13, 07:46 PM
I strongly suggest getting Firefox.


ps. How ironic that the firefox spell checker does not recognize the word "firefox" :eh:

Paracelsus
2007-Aug-13, 07:47 PM
Hmmmm...the consensus on this thread seems to be that Firefox would be a good investment.

Will tell hubby.

Thanks, guys! :)

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-13, 07:57 PM
No problem. :)

And one more useful thing if you switch between computers a lot and want to keep your own personal settings (passwords/bookmarks/history/etc) I suggest getting the firefox portable http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
Just put it in your USB thumbdrive and you can use your own browser on any computer. ;)

This is actually what me and my geek friends use to bypass the IE blocking game websites in school computers.

Paracelsus
2007-Aug-13, 08:40 PM
No problem. :)

And one more useful thing if you switch between computers a lot and want to keep your own personal settings (passwords/bookmarks/history/etc) I suggest getting the firefox portable http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable
Just put it in your USB thumbdrive and you can use your own browser on any computer. ;)

Cool! Will tell hubby this also, as he'll probably be able to use it more than I will.


This is actually what me and my geek friends use to bypass the IE blocking game websites in school computers.

ROFL! :naughty: :p

tbm
2007-Aug-14, 12:40 AM
Hmm, I've had no problems with Safari myself..........

tbm

france113
2007-Aug-14, 05:52 AM
yea it sure stinks!:mad:
firefox is better :lol:

JustAFriend
2007-Aug-14, 02:58 PM
Here's a clue: Version 1.0 of ANY software stinks (I remember Windows 1.0 kiddies!!)

Matherly
2007-Aug-14, 03:02 PM
Here's a clue: Version 1.0 of ANY software stinks (I remember Windows 1.0 kiddies!!)

Hence the oft repeated "Verion 1.D'OH!"

sarongsong
2007-Aug-15, 05:00 AM
This stupid bloody piece of software!!...If you're running it under Windows, you've confirmed the warrnings (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/60335-apple-safari-browser-windows.html)! :)