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Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 01:54 PM
For those who haven't see this, Miss South Carolina shows us once again that our stereotype of beauty contestant blondes is, like, ohmygosh, so, like, not good, you know?

http://www.maniacworld.com/what-is-she-talking-about.html

mike alexander
2007-Aug-27, 02:13 PM
Closer to, y'know, mono than, like, stereo.

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-27, 02:58 PM
Closer to, y'know, mono than, like, stereo.
Not even mono... More like the cosmic background radiation...

I had no clue what she was saying. My best guess was Americans are dumb, so the US should educate South Africa and Iraq.

pilgrim
2007-Aug-27, 03:04 PM
All I can say is ... wow.

rose.waldie@gmail.com
2007-Aug-27, 03:10 PM
:silenced::whistle:To NEOwatcher...I think that was a very accurate translation of Miss South Carolina....I found her comments more difficult than translating a Latin verse!

sarongsong
2007-Aug-27, 03:41 PM
:doh: ...she obviously has higher political aspirations! :)

mike alexander
2007-Aug-27, 03:43 PM
What I found most interesting was less her words and more the image. There seems to be a sort of bland eigenface in beauty pageants, where so many of the contestants look approximately alike. Barbiesque. Vapidly pretty also comes to mind. Let's get some good cheekbones in there, a high, straight nose, a strong jaw. Anything to introduce some individuality.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 03:45 PM
Right.
I caught the part that she said american kids don't have maps...

riiiiighhht...

And somehow that means that we need to educate the kids in Iraq.

I guess so that they know how to find us but we cant find them? Or ourselves...?

I couldn't help but wonder... is she one of the 1/5th that can't find the US on a map?

pilgrim
2007-Aug-27, 03:58 PM
Couldn't help but look for another picture...:rolleyes: It's kinda big so here's a link to it. A minor disclaimer: I do not think most americans necessarily hold the views expressed.

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/0929o_mundo.gif

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-27, 04:10 PM
...I couldn't help but wonder... is she one of the 1/5th that can't find the US on a map?
She's part of the group that can't find it by looking around her.


A minor disclaimer: I do not think most americans necessarily hold the views expressed.
http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/0929o_mundo.gif

Probably because you don't know enough of them...

cjl
2007-Aug-27, 04:10 PM
On a similar note:

http://strangemaps.files.wordpress.com/2006/11/800px-reagan-digitised-poster.JPG

pilgrim
2007-Aug-27, 04:16 PM
Probably because you don't know enough of them...

Or don't want to offend ;). Nah, that's unfair though, lumping people into a box. Like drunk Paddy, *hic*. Here's one more pic:
http://www.bloodyhell.nl/images/map_of_american_isolationist_thinking.gif

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-27, 05:49 PM
Is anybody surprised at this?
I can already imagine her coach saying to use the words "Iraq", "south africa" and "help children in the world" and mix them up.

With a few exceptions their IQ must be inversely proportional to the number of times they use "like" in a sentence.

korjik
2007-Aug-27, 05:50 PM
Or don't want to offend ;). Nah, that's unfair though, lumping people into a box. Like drunk Paddy, *hic*. Here's one more pic:
http://www.bloodyhell.nl/images/map_of_american_isolationist_thinking.gif

:)

Its only offensive if untrue :(

Quite frankly, it is one of the most disgusting things about the state of US education that there are ANY americans that cant point out the US on a globe.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 06:07 PM
Reminds me of those Jay Leno shows where they hit the street and ask common people easy questions and get ignorant strange responses.

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-27, 06:09 PM
Quite frankly, it is one of the most disgusting things about the state of US education that there are ANY americans that cant point out the US on a globe.

But, in all fairness; in US schools, most of the maps and globes were made before the US was a country. :whistle:

publius
2007-Aug-27, 06:19 PM
What are you people complaining about. That is prime pharmaceutical sales babe material there (see the FDA is too conservative thread for context). She'll set records for most pills pushed in the least time.

-Richard

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 06:23 PM
Bad Publius! Bad! Bad! Mixing threads! No doughnut!

Stuart van Onselen
2007-Aug-27, 06:59 PM
Right.
I couldn't help but wonder... is she one of the 1/5th that can't find the US on a map?

She's part of whatever fraction can't find her own a...behind with both hands, a bright light, and a mirror!

I heard this on the radio this morning. I failed to see the humour. I find spectacularly stupid and ignorant people more irritating than amusing, and I wasn't too impressed by her lumping SA and Iraq together. The ignorant female bovine probably sums up the whole rest-of-the-world as "Not America".

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 07:05 PM
She's part of whatever fraction can't find her own a...behind with both hands, a bright light, and a mirror!


<Dutifully and obligingly rushes over to help her find it> :D

Celestial Mechanic
2007-Aug-27, 07:16 PM
Please! Please! Please!

I'm at work and can't surf to the linked site. (Blocked due to adult content.) Please don't let this thread self-destruct before I've seen the transcript of her "remarks" and have a chance to make an intelligent (and hopefully witty!) comment about it.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 07:44 PM
Adult Content?!?!
Where did I go Worng?!?!

I can give you a transcript
but
you kinda gotta hear her fumblings to truly enjoy it.;)

Tobin Dax
2007-Aug-27, 10:04 PM
She's part of whatever fraction can't find her own a...behind with both hands, a bright light, and a mirror!
Figuratively, I agree. However, with a blonde like that, I somehow think you may be wrong.

I really want to know what was going through Mario Lopez's head after that.

Delvo
2007-Aug-27, 10:09 PM
The fun part is watching the guy who's holding the microphone (which I guess the contestants can't be trusted with) trying not to laugh.

Give her a break; after just her first little slip-up, she probably just got flustered watching the entire audience laugh at her, too.

mike alexander
2007-Aug-27, 10:16 PM
No, giving her a break would just be rewarding incompetence. My goodness, if all we ask of those society rewards with its highest honors is an engaging manner and spoken gibberish in response to questions, who knows where things might end up?

Doodler
2007-Aug-27, 10:17 PM
I'm not sure which was worse....the video, or the equally large advertisement for Ann Coulter to its immediate right.

Tobin Dax
2007-Aug-27, 10:30 PM
I'm not sure which was worse....the video, or the equally large advertisement for Ann Coulter to its immediate right.
Six of one. . . .

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-27, 11:20 PM
Don't be too hard on her. If you put a man on a stage surrounded by beautiful women and asked him a question a lot of the time he wouldn't make any sense either.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 11:28 PM
She definetly seemed to get flustered, and then what she had rehearsed in her head backfired and she got more flustered...

But a break? No. No breaks.

She was a contestant. This wasn't sudden or something she had no preperation for or a really tough question.
Yet...
She almost did as poorly as some politicians.
I'm not going to name names or Quail about it though...

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 11:29 PM
Don't be too hard on her. If you put a man on a stage surrounded by beautiful women and asked him a question a lot of the time he wouldn't make any sense either.

Yeah but she was a woman surrounded by women.

Now put a man on a stage and surround him with chippendales and see if he...

Actually he may be too busy laughing to answer anyway...

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-27, 11:44 PM
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 11:48 PM
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You could have told me that nicely...:hand::cry:

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-27, 11:49 PM
Yeah but she was a woman surrounded by women.

Now put a man on a stage and surround him with chippendales and see if he...

Actually he may be too busy laughing to answer anyway...

I dunno. Look in men's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. Look in women's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. (Which from my point of view is perfectly understandable.)

You know how fishing hobbiests make lures to attract fish that don't really look like an insect but seem to do a better job of attracting fish than the real thing? I think magazines and Hollywood and TV does the same thing with people. Just wait until make up starts being applied digitally.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-27, 11:51 PM
I dunno. Look in men's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. Look in women's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. (Which from my point of view is perfectly understandable.)

You know how fishing hobbiests make lures to attract fish that don't really look like an insect but seem to do a better job of attracting fish than the real thing? I think magazines and Hollywood and TV does the same thing with people. Just wait until make up starts being applied digitally.
:think:
So...
Tell me Ronald Brak...

How often is it that you sit around reading womens magazines?:think:
:doh:

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-27, 11:59 PM
I dunno. Look in men's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. Look in women's magazines and what do you see? Lots of pictures of beautiful women. (Which from my point of view is perfectly understandable.)

There's a very simple explanation in that. Women are more beautiful than men. Its not something held only by males, women think the same as well...

As they say, the female figure* is one of the best in nature.



*except overweight ones. sorry.

mike alexander
2007-Aug-28, 12:01 AM
When I'm waiting for takeout or a haircut I always read the available women's magazines (Redbook, Elle, Cosmo). How else can you get to know the enemy?

Gemini
2007-Aug-28, 12:01 AM
Reminds me of those Jay Leno shows where they hit the street and ask common people easy questions and get ignorant strange responses.


The School Newspaper is doing that, I'll post the questions when they come out. Ex. Q. How many Russians Have walked on the the Moon? A: Like, Four?

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-28, 12:02 AM
So...
Tell me Ronald Brak...

How often is it that you sit around reading womens magazines?

I don't read them, I just look at the pictures.

WARNING! WARNING! DANGER APPROACHING WILL ROBINSON! - Whatever you do, don't actually read women's magazines, it will just confuse you. Just stick to what your dad taught you - Women will like you if you are kind, respectful and honest and having a good job helps. But if you read the women's magazines you might find this isn't nearly enough and you will despair.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:03 AM
There's a very simple explanation in that. Women are more beautiful than men. Its not something held only by males, women think the same as well...

As they say, the female figure* is one of the best in nature.



*except overweight ones. sorry.

For many women too, it is competitive nature. They like to see what they want to be.

Make no mistake, women admire hunky guys. And they go to lengths to do so. The whole "women dont find men attractive etc" thought is a stereotype that I have seen many women prove wrong again and again.
I might also mention that the majority of women I know- of all ages (Adults) have a pretty high drive. Women just arent inclined to talk about it all the time or declare it in the manner that some men do.

The Backroad Astronomer
2007-Aug-28, 12:03 AM
we all have off moments, myself in a different thread


I went as to work late at night when no one was around.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:08 AM
we all have off moments, myself in a different thread
I went as to work late at night when no one was around.


Yeah I didn't want to bring it up a second time but...
I still don't get it.
What does you going to work late have to do with frenemies?

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 12:08 AM
Off moments? She's representing an state and must have gone through months of training. Its not some random person on the streets.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:10 AM
Off moments? She's representing an state and must have gone through months of training. Its not some random person on the streets.

An state?

Whew! I'm glad YOU aren't representing an state...:whistle:

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 12:12 AM
:doh:

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 12:13 AM
I was just wondering , having read the what she answered from that question , how did she became Miss Teen South Carolina?

I personally believe , that joining a beauty pageant such as these have some standards and criteria in choosing the winner.


hmmm..:think:

mike alexander
2007-Aug-28, 12:17 AM
Remember your evolutionary theory. What do the results tell you about the selection process?

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 12:17 AM
I was just wondering , having read the what she answered from that question , how did she became Miss Teen South Carolina?

I personally believe , that joining a beauty pageant such as these have some standards and criteria in choosing the winner.


hmmm..:think:

The criteria seem pretty simply. The matter that once composed her frontal lobes has to sink to her breastessess...

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-28, 12:17 AM
I don't understand why they are bothering to ask the contestents questions. Call me cynical but I don't think they are going to give the prize to an ugly person who answered the questions real good. Asking questions should be replaced with feats of strength or perhaps egg balancing.

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 12:23 AM
In a beauty pageant , yes , Beauty is the Main criteria , that means intelligence and having smart Brains is just an option?

:neutral:

Delvo
2007-Aug-28, 12:27 AM
Anyone who seriously thinks women's magazines or men's magazines don't have pictures of men in them hasn't looked... at either kind. (The only catch is that it is common that, to find the men's pictures in women's magazines, you do have to open them... but once you do, they're plastered all over, far more copiously than women in a men's magazine. Articles on any and all subjects will have several pictures of men apiece, just thrown in at random without any connection to the text's subject.

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 12:29 AM
In a beauty pageant , yes , Beauty is the Main criteria , that means intelligence and having smart Brains is just an option?

:neutral:

Yup, at least in this context.

Take heart, some of us over here actually don't find these dimwits remotely interesting beyond a certain instinctual attraction to genetically ideal curvature

Even an admitted mandog like me, hasn't watched a beauty contest since puberty.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:30 AM
In a beauty pageant , yes , Beauty is the Main criteria , that means intelligence and having smart Brains is just an option?

:neutral:

Intelligence matters.

I know more men that will take a smart girl over a dumb bimbo.
Even if the dumb bimbo's cute- her dumbness will drive you crazy.

I agree with you. Beauty contests are dumb anyway, so at least have SOME standards...

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 12:37 AM
Beauty is not always skindipped. Yes , it is first seen in naked eye BUT, True Beauty lasts.

I hope Beauty Pageants change the way they make people (esp Men) think over the women contestants. That it isn't their beauty that will only stand out, but it's also their intelligence as being Ambassador of Goodwill.

Just my womanly comment.

:neutral:

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:39 AM
(snip) That it isn't their beauty that will only stand out, but it's also their intelligence as being Ambassador of Goodwill.



:neutral:

Especially to Iraq and South Africa.

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 12:39 AM
Beauty is not always skindipped. Yes , it is first seen in naked eye BUT, True Beauty lasts.

I hope Beauty Pageants change the way they make people (esp Men) think over the women contestants. That it isn't their beauty that will only stand out, but it's also their intelligence as being Ambassador of Goodwill.

Just my womanly comment.

:neutral:

I don't see anyone telling you you're wrong.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:40 AM
I don't see anyone telling you you're wrong.

That's because your frontal lobes sunk into your ...

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 12:44 AM
That's because your frontal lobes sunk into your ...

*sucks in and tightens belt*

Mind yer eyes, son. :lol:

sarongsong
2007-Aug-28, 01:40 AM
This 3rd runner-up does have a name:
Miss South Carolina, Lauren Caitlin Upton
Interview:
What is the craziest thing you have ever done?...
Miss Teen USA 2007 (http://www.missteenusa.com/delegates/2007/files/SC-interview.html)

Trebuchet
2007-Aug-28, 01:59 AM
Am I the only one feeling sorry for this girl? She's probably 17 years old and she's just made a ridiculous statement, under pressure, that's making her look foolish worldwide. That may be the real girl you're seeing there, or not. They even carried this on the ABC nightly news. (Or maybe it was the local affiliate, I forget.) Have a little pity, folks.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 02:07 AM
When I make ridiculous statements
I get laughed at.
No pity for airheads.

publius
2007-Aug-28, 02:35 AM
Let's see this is "Miss Teen USA", right? I assume this is a subsidiary, spin-off side pageant, of Miss USA, which is a Donald Trump operation, now. That "The Donald" is involved should explain everything. :) Miss USA is the one that goes on to Miss Universe, right, not Miss America?

Let's see, some Googling confirms. Miss USA and Teen USA are all part of the Miss Universe Organization, owned by Trump and NBC.

We all know what beauty pageants were really about. However, that made some feminist types mad, and it has become politically incorrect. Can't have that, so they try to pretend it's something other that what it really is, and pretend that it is not what it really is.

So that's why you Bambi and Barbi coached to spew stuff like this.

These beauty pageants are not going to last much longer. The PC crowd will see to that, and then we have the explosion of porn, notably on this here interweb thing.

The latter doesn't pretend to anything respectable. It's right up front with what it's about, and makes no bones about it at all. So, when you want to see some T&A full bore, you've got it available in spades and no nonsense.

In the old days before the porn supply exploded, beauty pageants and similiar were how Joe Sixpack got his dose of T&A. Now, he's got the high proof stuff available easily, so why go through the motions anymore with the low proof watered down stuff.

-Richard

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 02:39 AM
Some of us don't like porn. Leaves nothing to the imagination- is empty hollow and vulgar.


Meanwhile I never watch Miss Whatever pageants either...

sarongsong
2007-Aug-28, 02:51 AM
Hee-hee; reminds me of the time a gorgeous friend was stopped by the CHP on the drive back to Berkeley from Burlingame, after a full evening of mutual birthday (same as TSC's, BTW) celebration dining and drinking. She was a wee bit tipsy as she went thru the walk-a-straight-line, touch your nose routine. As the rookie CHiPster conducted the sobriety tests in the glare of the headlights, his partner stood just behind me outside the passenger seat door, audibly clearing his throat progessively louder, as my friend slowly drew the rookie into a bout of uncontrollable grinning and a burst of laughter, with her line of patter. He let her off with a warning and we were off to the races, giggling as we headed north on the Bayshore. I asked her what she'd told him to accomplish such a 'miracle', and she replied she couldn't remember, inspiring another round of guffawing. I imagine it must have been similar to Miss SC's line of reasoning!

publius
2007-Aug-28, 02:51 AM
is empty hollow and vulgar.


Meanwhile I never watch Miss Whatever pageants either...

Empty, hollow, and vulgar? I'm shocked, SHOCKED. That's what happens to just about anything when you run it in the ground for crass commercial exploitation.

Ever the (the long term) optimist, this kind of stuff goes in cycles. You take stuff and run it the ground and it becomes empty, hollow, and vulgar. There will be a backlash (slow and over generations) and it will go back the other way.

And then it gets too repressive, there's a backlash against that, and it comes back around. And so the cycle repeats.

-Richard

Tensor
2007-Aug-28, 02:55 AM
Especially to Iraq and South Africa.

That is "THE" Iraq. :lol:

Celestial Mechanic
2007-Aug-28, 04:02 AM
Reminds me of those Jay Leno shows where they hit the street and ask common people easy questions and get ignorant strange responses.
Just before going on-line I saw it on the Tonight Show. I suppose, like most beauty-pageant -- err, scholarship pageant, excuse me, scholarship pageant contestants, that her goal is to work for world peace.

WE'RE DOOMED!!! :eek:

Only the Flying Spaghetti Monster can save us now...

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 04:08 AM
Unfortunately, the Flying Spaghetti Monster, upon hearing her little speech laughed so hard he lodged a meatball up one nostril and three spaghetti strands in the other and is currently indisposed...

Celestial Mechanic
2007-Aug-28, 04:12 AM
"What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
This is funny! I see that it's in quotes. Who said this originally?

I'm not sure if Neverfly was joking or not about taking this as a response to his earlier comment. I understood it to be a comment on Miss Teen South Carolina's so-called "statement".

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 04:35 AM
This is funny! I see that it's in quotes. Who said this originally?

I'm not sure if Neverfly was joking or not about taking this as a response to his earlier comment. I understood it to be a comment on Miss Teen South Carolina's so-called "statement".

I was kiddin'.

Giving The Radiation Specialist a hard time is usually the highlight of my day;)

Celestial Mechanic
2007-Aug-28, 04:42 AM
I was kiddin'. Giving The Radiation Specialist a hard time is usually the highlight of my day;)
Whew!! ;)

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-28, 05:02 AM
These beauty pageants are not going to last much longer. The PC crowd will see to that, and then we have the explosion of porn, notably on this here interweb thing.

You mean people looking at porn on their PCs? Well if you can't look at porn on a Mac no wonder Microsoft took over the world.

publius
2007-Aug-28, 05:25 AM
Damage control now. She told the State (Columbia, SC based paper) she "misunderstood the question" and "I didn't do anything wrong". She went on to say she just wasn't expecting the question and just lost her train of thought. She went on to say she has a 3.5 GPA in high school (these are public schools, so that doesn't say anything really. :) ).

And, she's going to appear on the Today Show tomorrow morning for a redo of some sort to show she's not as dumb as she looked. Remember NBC is part owner of the whole thing.

That will be interesting to see if her handlers can get her coached enough to sound half-way literate..............

-Richard

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 05:44 AM
Couldn't help but look for another picture...:rolleyes: It's kinda big so here's a link to it. A minor disclaimer: I do not think most americans necessarily hold the views expressed.

http://www.nadir.org/nadir/initiativ/agp/free/0929o_mundo.gifRe the "Bombed here" symbols it looks like whoever drew the map mistook Hainan Dao for Vietnam, Laos, and Cambodia.

sarongsong
2007-Aug-28, 06:04 AM
...she has a 3.5 GPA in high school (these are public schools, so that doesn't say anything really. :) )...Sure it does (http://www.greatschools.net/modperl/achievement/sc/704), but certainly not as much as knowing yours... :)

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 06:10 AM
I was just wondering , having read the what she answered from that question , how did she became Miss Teen South Carolina?...Being familiar with South Carolina on the best authority, she's an above-average choice.

While house-hunting in the Augusta, GA area, we looked into the Aiken, SC area. The first real estate agent stated that the local high school was really good. She showed us the football field, the other athletic facilities, and boasted about all the championships the football team had won. I asked about the school's overall rating academically. She didn't know anything about that, but stated that many Aiken High School graduates went to college on scholarships. Football scholarships.

After that it was back to Augusta.

I'm sure Caitlin will make a fine trophy wife for the CEO of a South Carolina soybean, cotton, or peach conglomerate. Meanwhile don't forget to go here (http://misssouthcarolina.com/) and here (http://www.misssouthcarolinausa.com/).

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 06:14 AM
Damage control now. She told the State (Columbia, SC based paper) she "misunderstood the question" and "I didn't do anything wrong". She went on to say she just wasn't expecting the question and just lost her train of thought. She went on to say she has a 3.5 GPA in high school (these are public schools, so that doesn't say anything really. :) )...For that figure to be meaningful, you must apply reverse Canadian metric conversion.

Divide it by two and subtract 0.30.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 06:36 AM
This is funny! I see that it's in quotes. Who said this originally?

Apparently this (http://www.garnersclassics.com/qbilly.htm) guy.


Giving The Radiation Specialist a hard time is usually the highlight of my day

*cough* (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63651-world-without-humans-video.html#post1052999)

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 06:46 AM
Beauty is not always skindipped. Yes , it is first seen in naked eye BUT, True Beauty lasts.

I hope Beauty Pageants change the way they make people (esp Men) think over the women contestants. That it isn't their beauty that will only stand out, but it's also their intelligence as being Ambassador of Goodwill.

Just my womanly comment.


I agree. Beauty may last only until one is young. But Intelligence stays. There are many hot women who seriously put me off once they open their mouths.


Am I the only one feeling sorry for this girl? She's probably 17 years old and she's just made a ridiculous statement, under pressure, that's making her look foolish worldwide. That may be the real girl you're seeing there, or not. They even carried this on the ABC nightly news. (Or maybe it was the local affiliate, I forget.) Have a little pity, folks.

No. I see no excuses. She should be trained for these circumstances. At least be human enough to admit she has no answer for this rather than saying something utterly stupid. She should be reminded of this shameful acts for a long time.

No mercy.

mfumbesi
2007-Aug-28, 07:04 AM
Why oh why did she lump South Africa with Iraq. What have we done to deserve this?

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 07:16 AM
Why oh why did she lump South Africa with Iraq. What have we done to deserve this?Well, take the "We need to cancel the space program and use the money to feed the starving children in Africa!" cliché, transmogrify it with the thought process of Miss Teen South Carolina, then add her quest for a word which has a "Q" not followed by a "U" ("Here I am, beautiful Caitlin, and it hurts as I rack my brain. That's it! Iraq!"), and presto!

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 07:30 AM
After watching your links Mak , this stayed in my mind.....

"Where beauty meets Ability"

I have nothing to say..

:lol:

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 08:15 AM
Originally Posted by Neverfly http://www.bautforum.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63943-miss-south-carolina-beauty-brains-post1058860.html#post1058860)
Especially to Iraq and South AfricaThat is "THE" Iraq. :lol:
The person who did the text transcript used "the", but to my ears, it sounds like she's saying a word that's a cross between "thy" and "die". Perhaps her Freudian slip is showing?

http://www.cosgan.de/images/smilie/frech/a040.gif

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 09:19 AM
Make no mistake, women admire hunky guys.

Hm, not really hunky. I've always been kind of a fan of the small and skinny variety...:shifty:

Nicolas
2007-Aug-28, 09:44 AM
YES!!!!!!

ahem, proceed with your daily activities please.

(oh wait, small, hm if you mean "not tall" then I'm disqualified...)

sarongsong
2007-Aug-28, 09:49 AM
...and presto!..and "...the Asian countries..."?

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 09:50 AM
YES!!!!!!

ahem, proceed with your daily activities please.

(oh wait, small, hm if you mean "not tall" then I'm disqualified...)

:lol::lol:

Usually 'not tall' but there can always be exceptions :D

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 10:00 AM
..and "...the Asian countries..."?They intentionally weren't part of the South Africa equation. You must realize that the South Carolina rice industry is in re-startup mode and doesn't like to mention the competition.

Nicolas
2007-Aug-28, 10:05 AM
:lol::lol:

Usually 'not tall' but there can always be exceptions :D


:D :D

Now how to convince my SO I was just joking here... :whistle:

Maksutov
2007-Aug-28, 10:10 AM
Oh well I guess tall and muscular is out.

Short has its advantages, just counting the bumps on the top of my head tells me that. Plus not muscular means someone else will do the heavy work.

C'est la vie.

:sad:

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 10:13 AM
hmm...:think:

pardon me .. Pilgrim...

I thought you're male.

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 10:22 AM
:D :D

Now how to convince my SO I was just joking here... :whistle:

Haha, digging a hole, digging a hole....

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 10:24 AM
hmm...:think:

pardon me .. Pilgrim...

I thought you're male.

Nope, at least not as far as I know:shifty:

Nicolas
2007-Aug-28, 11:22 AM
She's male?? No, he's female :)

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 12:02 PM
Well at least our population here in Baut is increasing.


;)

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:16 PM
I thought Pilgrim was male too:think:

That young man fills me with hope. Plus some other emotions which are weird and deeply confusing.

Pvt. LehMann is Leela?!
Oh god, I've never been so happy to be beaten up by a woman.

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 12:29 PM
I thought Pilgrim was male too:think:

That young man fills me with hope. Plus some other emotions which are weird and deeply confusing.

Pvt. LehMann is Leela?!
Oh god, I've never been so happy to be beaten up by a woman.

Hah, how come Futurama has an answer to everything??

Otherwise this whole thing is turning quite intriguing...:think:

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:33 PM
I had something similar happen to me, as my avatar wooed him and her name was Ross...

http://www.bautforum.com/conspiracy-theories/63624-nasa-conspiracy-generator-9.html#post1053741

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-28, 12:35 PM
I had something similar happen to me, as my avatar wooed him and her name was Ross...


:lol:

I knew this would come out...


;)

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 12:38 PM
Am I the only one feeling sorry for this girl? She's probably 17 years old and she's just made a ridiculous statement, under pressure, that's making her look foolish worldwide. That may be the real girl you're seeing there, or not. They even carried this on the ABC nightly news. (Or maybe it was the local affiliate, I forget.) Have a little pity, folks.

When you go out on a limb, always be prepared for the fall.

I don't feel particularly sorry because the ultimate responsibility for her trying to promote herself by being trotted out in various outfits like a trained showdog was her. This was her chosen path and she not only failed miserably, she failed hilariously.

I feel no particular shame in enjoying the moment.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 12:39 PM
:lol:

I knew this would come out...


;)

I sigged it for ya:p

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 04:03 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20473692/

I can buy stagefright as a reason. God knows how bad I had it.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 04:08 PM
“Personally, my friends and I, we know exactly where the United States is on a map,” she said. “I don’t know anyone else who doesn’t. If the statistics are correct, I believe there should be more emphasis on geography in our education so people will learn how to read maps better.”

That isn't much of an improvement:p

Nicolas
2007-Aug-28, 04:09 PM
I can buy stagefright as a reason. God knows how bad I had it.

Must have been terrible, since you never managed to become Miss South Carolina.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 04:13 PM
oh, but how do you know?

:whistle:

Doodler
2007-Aug-28, 04:23 PM
Must have been terrible, since you never managed to become Miss South Carolina.

Still managed to be one helluva vocalist, even got a few trinket type medals from it. But yeah, even in a small group, it was bad.

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-28, 04:25 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20473692/

I can buy stagefright as a reason. God knows how bad I had it.
I can too, but they are trained for this, and they know what they are getting into.

I can excuse not understanding the question, but to respond in complete gibberish is inexcusable. She should have at least answered what she infered what the question was.

But; no, she didn't even stop and re-phrase, she just kept going.

Now, I'd like to hear what the reporters think is a flawless explaination of the lunar eclipse.

pilgrim
2007-Aug-28, 04:28 PM
Did anybody else get the feeling she had memorised what she was going to say word for word and ended up reciting it back on the 'live' show as if she had practiced in front of a mirror?

Palomar
2007-Aug-28, 04:45 PM
I'm an attractive (so I've been told) and intelligent woman, and I would like just once for these contests to be about true smarts. Formerly it was beauty contests, then everyone was apologizing and having to include "and brains." A recent local beauty pageant continually tossed the words "and brains" in their reporting. Most of those chicks probably had an average IQ of 110, to listen to them.

But we seldom if ever see "only" smart women rewarded. If she's not at least passably pretty on top of it, too bad.

Of course, any truly self-respecting woman wants to be respected based upon her accomplishments and merits...not "just because" the gene pool was nice to her. :rolleyes:

Nicolas
2007-Aug-28, 04:49 PM
110? You're too kind.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 04:52 PM
I'm an attractive (so I've been told) and intelligent woman, and I would like just once for these contests to be about true smarts. Formerly it was beauty contests, then everyone was apologizing and having to include "and brains." A recent local beauty pageant continually tossed the words "and brains" in their reporting. Most of those chicks probably had an average IQ of 110, to listen to them.

But we seldom if ever see "only" smart women rewarded. If she's not at least passably pretty on top of it, too bad.

Of course, any truly self-respecting woman wants to be respected based upon her accomplishments and merits...not "just because" the gene pool was nice to her. :rolleyes:

This is very true, but although the "image" created by society seems to focus on looks, it's partly women that make this happen too.

And in every day life there are a lot of men AND women that seem shallow, looking only at the outside and not the in.

But I know a lot of men that will choose a smart girl first.Like I said in another post, smarts win every time. A cute bimbo will annoy and frustrate you.
You respect yourself and your worth Palomar, and that counts for a lot. Others will see it too;)

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 05:08 PM
But we seldom if ever see "only" smart women rewarded. If she's not at least passably pretty on top of it, too bad.


List of medals and awards exclusively awarded to women (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes%2C_medals%2C_and_awards_for_women_i n_science)

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-28, 05:11 PM
List of medals and awards exclusively awarded to women (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prizes%2C_medals%2C_and_awards_for_women_i n_science)

Now the challenge is to find mainstream media coverage of any of these women (other than the cute ones). :whistle:

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 05:15 PM
Now the challenge is to find mainstream media coverage of any of these women (other than the cute ones)

It won't catch on, sadly. It will be submerged under the American Idol and Paris Hilton story.

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 05:23 PM
Ok, am I wrong for thinking that women participate in this whole
beauty and cutie thing too?!
(NOTE: The following is a generalization that does NOT apply to ALL women and on a personal note.... Some of these things are what I even find attractive about women:lol:- not all of them though:p )
Women shave their legs, put on make up, wear lots of perfume.
They spend ridiculous amounts of money on cosmetics, hair do's, clothes and shoes.

They dress up to go to WalMart.
They take 5 times as long to get ready to go anywhere than a man does.
They fuss before they walk into a restauraunt with their hair, ask if they look fat in this and brush their teeth 7 times a day.

Some women enjoy male attention and wear such clothes as to ensure they will get a lot of it.
They brag about making a man walk into a light pole because he was staring at her and not looking where he was going.

Halfway through the evening they go to the bathroom to refresh their make up.

They treat a pimple like a boil. They are fiercly competitive (See the Frenemy thread.) And they like to check out other women to compare eachother to.

NOW I KNOW not all women fit this image I have just painted. But a lot do.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 05:32 PM
uh oh... What have you done, boy?

Quick! take it off before she sees it.

*sigh*

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 05:35 PM
I live on the edge...

Flirting with disaster...

:lol:

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-28, 05:53 PM
Don't worry I have a plan.

My reverse psychology worked here (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63964-dont-do.html) and here (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63958-have-you-ever-had-frenemy.html#post1058822)

You're safe, son ;)

Neverfly
2007-Aug-28, 06:07 PM
Don't worry I have a plan.

My reverse psychology worked here (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63964-dont-do.html) and here (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63958-have-you-ever-had-frenemy.html#post1058822)

You're safe, son ;)

I may be safe but you are not (http://www.bautforum.com/off-topic-babbling/63964-dont-do-2.html#post1059498)

Trebuchet
2007-Aug-29, 03:08 AM
When you go out on a limb, always be prepared for the fall.

I don't feel particularly sorry because the ultimate responsibility for her trying to promote herself by being trotted out in various outfits like a trained showdog was her. This was her chosen path and she not only failed miserably, she failed hilariously.

I feel no particular shame in enjoying the moment.

That's true, but I do wonder how much of this was her idea and how much was her parents (mother, most likely) promoting her into it from an early age. When they are 17 or so, it is very difficult for some kids to say "no" to their parents. And of course all too easy for others!

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-29, 05:06 AM
Everything did come at me at once,” she said. “And I made a mistake — everybody makes a mistake — I’m human. Right when the question was asked of me, I was in shock ... I would love to re-answer that question.”

Not in this type of contests or in every competition .

A person who decides to join a certain competition should be prepared at all times.
This beauty pageants are not launched overnight . There are series of rehearsals and months of preparations before the big night .

Questions given to them during the Finals Night should be anticipated be every contestant. They should know that tough and easy questions are there waiting for their pick of which is which.

Her above quote is Not an excuse as I see it .

;)

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-29, 05:20 AM
Everything did come at me at once,” she said. “And I made a mistake — everybody makes a mistake — I’m human. Right when the question was asked of me, I was in shock ... I would love to re-answer that question.”

There is a difference between making a mistake and making a complete idiot of yourself. This wasn't something embarrassing she blurted out. This was something she said that defied anything you expect from a human.
When people make mistakes they make a point clearly but say it so some may be offending to some. She had no idea what her point was, almost seeming as if she coughed up random phrases. You don't call that a "mistake".

sarongsong
2007-Aug-29, 05:22 AM
...When they are 17...Old chestnut:
The only substitute for experience is being 17-years old.Betc'ha can't name the pageant winner! http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
...And the Southern girls with the way they talk
They knock me out when I'm down there...

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-29, 05:34 AM
A person who decides to join a certain competition should be prepared at all times.

Look how much entertainment her answer has given the world. I say people who decide to join these contests should be unprepared if this example is anything to go by. It might bring more joy to the world. In the words of the great philosopher Stimpy, happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy.

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-29, 05:54 AM
Look how much entertainment her answer has given the world. I say people who decide to join these contests should be unprepared if this example is anything to go by. It might bring more joy to the world. In the words of the great philosopher Stimpy, happy happy joy joy, happy happy joy.

If that is the case ,the ladies will be a laughing stock to the crowd , esp Men.
And If it happens , It will probably make these contestants Not attractive at all to gain respect from the people, esp Men.


:think:

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-29, 06:02 AM
If that is the case ,the ladies will be a laughing stock to the crowd , esp Men.
And If it happens , It will probably make these contestants Not attractive at all to gain respect from the people, esp Men.

Hmmm... Somehow I doubt that she will be spending too many Friday nights waiting by the phone. I think maybe you misjudge the ability of the average man to see through a lack of effort, incompetence or low intelligence and judge a woman on her qualities of innate hotness.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-29, 06:37 AM
And If it happens , It will probably make these contestants Not attractive at all to gain respect from the people, esp Men.

I'm pretty sure no man has any respect for these girls. The majority of those who watch these programs are doing it for um... other reasons.

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-29, 06:41 AM
Hmmm... Somehow I doubt that she will be spending too many Friday nights waiting by the phone. I think maybe you misjudge the ability of the average man to see through a lack of effort, incompetence or low intelligence and judge a woman on her qualities of innate hotness.



hmmm..:think:

Maybe I am or .. not.

If I will put my shoes on those ladies or her , I would want to be attractive to men not only with my looks and my Hotness But with my intelligence and smartness as well.

I speak as a woman , and this is I observed with men ( This is not generalization but only my personal observation and opinion based on what I see and experience).

The visual part is obvious that when a beautiful , attractive,sexy lady passby men normally have that look or second look I should say. Your attention is caught by the beauty you see in front of you and probably would like to know her or get her number. And then it happens that this lady joined a beauty contest and you were surprised and yet .. thrilled to see her again .. on stage.
She entered the Finals , and then asked with a question.
She answered the question in the best, smart and intelligent manner that everyone stood up and applaud her.

I suppose you will feel proud of her in winning the crown because she deserves it . Your attraction has included respect now because of what she did.

But what if she answered in an idiotic way that makes the people laugh and the media is feasting in her "not smart answer" ......?

:think:

Ronald Brak
2007-Aug-29, 06:52 AM
If a man values beauty over brains then discovering that a beautiful women isn't very smart can make her seem more attractive to him. This is because such men often realize that an intelligent beautiful woman wouldn't be interested in a superficial person such as himself and won't be impressed with his stories about how good he is at football.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Aug-29, 06:54 AM
If I will put my shoes on those ladies or her , I would want to be attractive to men not only with my looks and my Hotness But with my intelligence and smartness as well.


I see what you mean and I totally agree with that. You're not the first woman in these forums to say that. The intellectual females seem to share your opinion.

But our views may not be shared with other men and women.

Whirlpool
2007-Aug-29, 07:07 AM
Yes , I agree with you.

I just answered Ronald's post that it would be better to be unprepared in joining this contests so that there will be entertainment for the people watching.

And if that happens, women who's not as smart as the others will be a laughing stock to people...and I feel its not right.

<shrug>

:neutral:

Maksutov
2007-Aug-29, 08:06 AM
Please! Please! Please!

I'm at work and can't surf to the linked site. (Blocked due to adult content.) Please don't let this thread self-destruct before I've seen the transcript of her "remarks" and have a chance to make an intelligent (and hopefully witty!) comment about it.For those of you who aren't able to access the video, here's the transcript. Imagine this being spoken by a blond Barbie-clone with too much makeup, in a squeaky, cutesy-poo monotone (right on, mike alexander!), with an accent that's a combination of Southron Belle, Valley Girl, and morning news show host.
Question (Aimee Teegarden): Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the United States on a world map. Why do you think this is?

Miss Teen South Carolina (Lauren Caitlin Upton, 18): "I personally believe the U.S. Americans are unable to do so because, uh, some, uh...people out there in our nation don't have maps, and, uh, I believe that our education like such as South Africa and, uh, the(thy/die) Iraq everywhere like, such as and...I believe that they should, our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S., err, uh, should help South Africa and should help the(thy/die) Iraq and the Asian countries, so we will be able to build up our future for our...

Microphone Holder: Thank you very much...South Carolina

My only response would be
(Cheesey, Cheesey)
(This is a song about vegetables, they keep ya regular
They're real good for ya)

Call any vegetable Call it by name
Call one today When you get off the train
Call any vegetable And the chances are good
Aw, The vegetable will respond to you

(Some people don't go for prunes...I
don't know, I've always found that if they...)
Call any vegetable Pick up your phone
Think of a vegetable Lonely at home
Call any vegetable And the chances are good
That a vegetable will respond to you

Rutabaga, Rutabaga,
Rutabaga, Rutabaga,
Rutabay-y-y-y...

(A prune isn't really a vegetable...
CABBAGE is a vegetable...)

No one will know
If you don't want to let them know
No one will know
'Less it's you that might tell them so
Call and they'll come to you
Covered with dew
Vegetables dream, Of responding to you

Standing there shiny and proud by your side
Holding your hand while the neighbors decide
Why is a vegetable something to hide

sarongsong
2007-Aug-29, 03:28 PM
Question (Aimee Teegarden): Recent polls have shown a fifth of Americans can't locate the United States on a world map....and what "recent polls" might those be?

Nicolas
2007-Aug-29, 03:31 PM
They questioned 15 people on times square. Or something similar.

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-29, 03:41 PM
They questioned 15 people on times square. Or something similar.
...And showed them a globe with the Eastern hemisphere facing them...

Nicolas
2007-Aug-29, 04:19 PM
World maps around here usually show the americas on the left. I saw one with the Americas on the right (or center) when I was in primary school, and knew what was going on and could identify the continents. Heck, I could identify the continents and how they made up pangaea etc billions of years ago when I was about 9yo. I wouldn't take those poll results for granted indeed.

But wait. If you add up all blind, comatoze or under 5yo Americans and add some really stupid ones, would you get 20%?

NEOWatcher
2007-Aug-29, 04:26 PM
But wait. If you add up all blind, comatoze or under 5yo Americans and add some really stupid ones, would you get 20%?
Or how about the ones that know it's right, but since they have no stake in answering the question correctly, don't take the time, or intentionally get it wrong?

publius
2007-Sep-22, 04:10 PM
Update on Her Airheadedness. She's going to work for "The Donald's" modelling agency and will probably make about $25K a pop. She was quoted as saying she got into pageants to "improve her communication skills" for college and job interviews. Well, college is out. But hey, stupidity and a hot bod pays off.

Oh, she was in Las Vegas at some gig and had a little trouble reading the teleprompter. She spoke of "Las Veegans".

-Richard

Noclevername
2007-Sep-22, 10:10 PM
But hey, stupidity and a hot bod pays off.


This is news?...

BigDon
2007-Sep-22, 10:48 PM
Alright you pack of cheeseheads. :hand: My little Boo is a natural blond, pretty AND pegs the IQ needle at over 160, not just once, but on two retakes. Has 50% more gyres on her brain than is the norm, but I'm told this is irrelavent to her intelligence. (She's also rough on boyfriends. Don't be dumb and don't try to fast talk her.)

Before Boo when on the insulin pump she used to stress test my cardiovascular system by going into a diabetic coma 4 or 5 times a year. When that occurs they have to MRI her brain to watch out for deadly swelling. And each and every time the neuro folks would go, "Damn, thats a lot of wrinkles in her brain." I saw the scan myself and thought the exact same thing.