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ToSeek
2003-Jul-18, 07:52 PM
The Star Wars Alphabet Project (http://www.fbtb.net/jon/)

Heck, I've seen plenty of worse sfx spaceships than these! And not just in Hardware Wars, either.

Colt
2003-Jul-18, 10:34 PM
Very cool site, ToSeek. :o -Colt

Alex W.
2003-Jul-19, 11:38 AM
Ahem...


The plural of Lego is Lego...

ToSeek
2003-Jul-19, 01:36 PM
Ahem...


The plural of Lego is Lego...


[counter-pedant]Can you provide a citation for that?[/counter-pedant] ;)

Kizarvexis
2003-Jul-19, 04:18 PM
Ahem...


The plural of Lego is Lego...


[counter-pedant]Can you provide a citation for that?[/counter-pedant] ;)

LEGO FAQ (http://www.multicon.de/fun/legofaq.html#a7)


Subject: 7) Plural of LEGO
While most people point out that they just say LEGOs, lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex) dug out:
One catalogue, dated 1980, has the following on its back page:

Dear Parents and Children
The word LEGO(R) is a brand name and is very special to all of us in the LEGO Group Companies. We would sincerely like your help in keeping it special. Please always refer to our bricks as 'LEGO Bricks or Toys' and not 'LEGOS.' By doing so, you will be helping to protect and preserve a brand of which we are very proud and that stands for quality the world over. Thank you!
Susan Williams
Consumer Services (Susan's name is a pseudonym for the service dptmt.)
Matthew Miller, mattdm@mattdm.org, added:
The above quote from the catalog is often cited as evidence for "Lego" as the proper plural, but in fact that is misreading it. Trademark law in the US at least is easiest if the trademark is used as an _adjective_. The point they're trying to make is that you should say "LEGO Bricks", rather than calling the product itself either "Legos" _or_ "Lego".

In fact, they seem to assume that "LEGOS" is the natural plural, since that's the only one they bother to correct. So, in formal usage, both "Lego" and "Legos" are wrong. To me, that means people shouldn't make such a big deal about it in informal use!

Kizarvexis
Who loves to play with LEGO Bricks with my young son. :)

ToSeek
2003-Jul-19, 05:22 PM
Title changed to:

Spaceship design with LEGO Bricks(tm)

Happy now?

Colt
2003-Jul-20, 01:32 AM
Dont' worry ToSeek. I even use "Legos" because I am lazy. :P

http://www.lego.com/eng/info/profile/didyouknow.asp -Colt

pmcolt
2003-Jul-20, 04:08 AM
I love Legos. Oops, I mean I love LEGO Bricks or Toys(tm). :P

Reminds me of my college orientation week. While the other students were commingling in the ballroom, many of the engineering students were playing at a LEGO Brick(tm); table, working together to put the LEGO Brick(tm)s together till we had a respectable looking LEGO Brick(tm); robot. Which one of the non-engineers knocked over soon after.

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-20, 06:51 AM
Did it just look good or did it actually do things?

pmcolt
2003-Jul-20, 06:59 AM
It just looked good. Just plain blocks; no motors or hinge blocks or anything. Oh; the head was removable. It was mostly an exercise in teamwork and collaboration, I suppose.

ocasey3
2003-Jul-20, 07:11 AM
Right or wrong, I know I will probably say Legos 'til the day I die. :)

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-20, 07:22 AM
Oh well. Have you played around with those computer controlled Lego dealies, pm? They're pretty cool. (For Lego, that is)

Musashi
2003-Jul-20, 07:26 AM
Mindstorm, is what they are called, and they look really cool. One guy made one that could solve a rubik's cube!

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-20, 07:29 AM
Wow. Even I can't do that. There's an advantage for you; Lego doesn't get frustrated!

Colt
2003-Jul-20, 07:56 AM
I've made a working Lego Machine Gun: http://www.geocities.com/wandererofthewastes/Lego.html It is on the right. I want to eventually modify mine to accept removable magazines, maybe ones that use springs.

I've solved a Rubix Cube before. It was over the summer. We did not have internet then and I had no new books to read. God was I bored. I think I solved it through sheer stubborness that a machine was not gonig to outsmart me. :wink: -Colt

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-20, 07:57 AM
Cool! Now if we can automate it... :D

Colt
2003-Jul-20, 08:01 AM
If you mean like a sentry? You can do that with the Lego robotics sets (I've never had the money to buy those :cry: ). I have thought of attaching a motor to mine but I can't find the right one. That and I'm afraid it would fly apart.. -Colt

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-20, 08:03 AM
Just strengthen it a bit. Shouldn't fly apart.

beskeptical
2003-Jul-20, 09:07 AM
A fighter for every other letter in the alphabet. 20 fighters total. 15 down, 5 to go, ....

Let's see, 26 letters divided by 2... I get 13. What alphabet is the guy referring to? Is it a Star Wars alpha or something?

frenat
2003-Jul-20, 12:01 PM
No, he means the letters that weren't already used for fighters in the movies or books. ie other than x,y,a,b,e,v

The e-wing and v-wing were used in the Dark Empire comics. The V-wing also appears in the game Rogue Squadron 3D
e-wing
http://www.starwars.com/databank/starship/ewing/eu.html
also
http://galactic-voyage.com/Light%20Side-Starfighters-E-Wing.htm

v-wing speeder from the game Rogue Squadron 3D, scroll down to see a pic from the game.
http://www.3dgw.com/game/review/roguesquad/index.php3

and lego versions (unofficial of course)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/4654/ewing.html
http://bruce.kus-numa.net/lego/starwars/vwing.html

I have also found references to a T-wing used in the game X-wing vs. TIE fighter. Seen here
http://frankg.dgne.com/swsv/hcd/
and here
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/2947/ships/twing.html
and here
http://members.fortunecity.com/tolikman/starwars/fighters/twing/info.htm

Including the T-wing already used in a star-wars game then makes 7 lettered ships in the Star Wars universe. A,B,E,T,V,X,Y As he says there should be 20 ships, I wonder which one he is not including?

pmcolt
2003-Jul-21, 05:19 AM
Oh well. Have you played around with those computer controlled Lego dealies, pm? They're pretty cool. (For Lego, that is)

Yeah, had to play with Mindstorm for a project once. I was in a group of three people who had to assemble a "Mars rover". Ok, so it was just a wheeled robot with two touch sensors that had to back up and change directions when it hit an obstacle. Nothing much.


I've made a working Lego Machine Gun: http://www.geocities.com/wandererofthewastes/Lego.html It is on the right. I want to eventually modify mine to accept removable magazines, maybe ones that use springs.


You have a permit for that thing, Colt? ;) That's pretty neat; I'd've never thought of that. I'd try to build it, but my parents hid all my legos after they got tired of me always leaving them scattered all over the floor.

Colt
2003-Jul-21, 08:53 AM
No permit needed, like those replica, working Gatling guns you can buy (if you have a few thousand dollars). :D

I didn't think of the idea originally. Suprisingly I have not always been interested in firearms. :o Original Lego MG (http://www.silverlight.org/Cray/lego/machinegun.asp#h77) I think the original designer went to Harvard or something, an engineer. I coresponded with him several times about the machine gun but I think he started getting kind of wary when I began mentioning removable magazines and springloaded ones. :) Something of my own design is a semi-automatic pistol which I was working on for a while but shelved due to lack of parts.. I think I might restart that though because of this thread. :wink: -Colt

Alex W.
2003-Jul-21, 10:43 PM
Hmm, I've always referred to a lot of Lego as "Lego", like a lot of water is "water". If anything, it was the singular that caused me problems- I'd just tend to call them by a name appropriate to their shape and number of studs.

Aaaanyhoo, if "Legos" is good enough for Penny Arcade, it's good enough for me.

Colt
2003-Jul-22, 02:51 AM
Yeah but we discuss water as a single mass. If you had one gallon of water to another gallon, it is still water. Add one brick to another brick. You have two bricks, not one brick. They dont' merge. -Colt

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-22, 03:18 AM
But if you have a large group of buckets full of water, you still call all of that water "water" even though it does not merge. Example:

*Looking at 50 buckets full of water*

"Hey! Look at all that water!"

Another example is sheep. Or moose. :)

Colt
2003-Jul-22, 06:07 AM
Quiet you, you're disturbing my logic. :P -Colt

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-22, 06:08 AM
Whoops! :D

Sorry!

Musashi
2003-Jul-22, 06:13 AM
Deer
Rice
Fish

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-22, 06:15 AM
Milk
Fudge
Soup

(I'm getting hungry now :P )

Colt
2003-Jul-22, 07:09 AM
Right.. Anyone else here design working things with Legos? -Colt

pmcolt
2003-Jul-22, 07:10 PM
Mmmmmm... milk fudge soup.

I haven't designed much of anything working with legos, but after reading this thread my interest is up.

kucharek
2003-Jul-23, 06:41 AM
Right.. Anyone else here design working things with Legos? -Colt
My son Lukas builts around half a dozen a week and his designs get more and more sophisticated. I really should drop some of them onto the scanner.

BTW, LEGO Discovery has now released some space stuff:
http://www.arktoys.com/legodiscovery.html

Colt
2003-Jul-23, 07:36 AM
Thanks for the link, Kucharek. :)

I have always wanted a Lego Space Shuttle but have never had the money to buy one. Now that I do I find I am not willing to pay $50 for it. The Saturn V looks interesting though. -Colt

ocasey3
2003-Jul-23, 08:08 AM
But if you have a large group of buckets full of water, you still call all of that water "water" even though it does not merge. Example:

*Looking at 50 buckets full of water*

"Hey! Look at all that water!"

Another example is sheep. Or moose. :)

No, no, no. Waters can be used to describe the plural of water as in "we have now entered the waters of Canada." :D

The Supreme Canuck
2003-Jul-23, 05:28 PM
Ah, but we were talking about water as a substance. When you say "We have now ented the waters of Canada" you are using the word "water" in a different sense. Namely, you are using it to describe territorial regions, not the water itself.

:o

Stupid English language...

Christian
2003-Jul-25, 09:35 AM
:o I consider myself an expert at Lego constructions. But those alphabet fighters are more elegant than anything we've ever done. We have a collection of est. 15,000 bricks, which gives us enough to make some pretty strange stuff sometimes.

A common theme, for example, is a bomber with working bay doors to drop bombs. I once created a "mad doctor's base" with missile launcher, hidden guns that popped out of walls, a swivelling wall panel to the secret passage... Our models always have lots of features.

As to your debate about water, I believe 'waters' is used as a separate word, to mean an area of water, moving mass, etc.

Wait a minute... :-? Isn't this an astronomy bulletin board?

Alex W.
2003-Aug-02, 08:12 PM
Quiet, you! :wink:

Lego is the best thing ever. Heck, Hideo Kojima used it (together with a small digital camera) to prototype levels in MGS. He combined it with Godzilla models for the large-scale views of MGS2 as well.

darkhunter
2003-Aug-04, 07:18 PM
Used to use a Lego clone to build LEMs--but given my knowledge at the time, they hardly resembled the real thing :D