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AstroMike
2003-Jul-24, 02:18 AM
Your pick.

AGN Fuel
2003-Jul-24, 07:33 AM
Your pick.

Have to go with Nasascam just for the quality of the arguments:

"FACT: Anyone who believes the moon landings must be essentially green."

Well, I guess that proves it then....... :roll: ](*,)

Glom
2003-Jul-24, 11:09 AM
Nasascam as well


FACT: It would have been impossible to have a watercooled spacesuit on the moon when the outside temperature was already at the boiling point of water.

Kaptain K
2003-Jul-24, 03:31 PM
Ditto Nasascam! :roll: :o

ToSeek
2003-Jul-24, 03:45 PM
Got to be NASAScam, though I seem to recall some other site that claims that the Moon landings are fakes because nothing manmade can go over a couple thousand miles an hour.

BigJim
2003-Jul-24, 04:15 PM
NASAscam.

Although Cosmic Dave is insane as well.

Look at the poll results.... I guess the people here really don't like NASAscam.

Glom
2003-Jul-24, 04:40 PM
Of course, the poll can be misleading. All these sites are insane, it's just that there's consensus that Nasascam is even more insane.

BigJim
2003-Jul-24, 04:42 PM
I'm tempted to e-mail Nasascam a link to the poll.

jrkeller
2003-Jul-24, 07:11 PM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.

Papermache Prince
2003-Jul-24, 07:32 PM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.If this
"Linxx:
Hot models!
Babylon 5
Christopher Walken
Pamela baby!"
helps him get dates, I may have to change my website.

R.A.F.
2003-Jul-24, 07:54 PM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.

That site is too, too funny. :) :)

AGN Fuel
2003-Jul-24, 09:23 PM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.


Oh man!! That is priceless! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

BigJim
2003-Jul-24, 09:38 PM
I shall restate my plan here for destroying Nasascam: link to tons of pictures from his website, massively increasing his bandwidth and shutting down his site. It may be a bit underhanded but couldn't be worse than permitting the harrassment of astronauts and scientists. I think that besides being stupid and arrogant, Nasascam is malevolent and really a problem. He continually promotes the harrassment of various individuals involved with the Apollo program including astronauts, flight directors, and scientist, which is why I especially dislike Nasascam. He is possibly the worst of all the hoaxists because he malevolently attacks those who disagree with him or who were involved with Apollo.

Just my two cents for why I don't like Nasascam. :wink:

"FACT: It would have been impossible for the astronauts to get from the Command Module to the conical space capsule, as the heat shield would obstruct them. It would have also been impossible for them to get out at the conical/pointed end of space capsule, as this section was occupied by the 3 large reentry parachutes, which ejected from the conical end."

That is pure insanity.

freddo
2003-Jul-25, 01:53 AM
NasaScam - none of the others give you the opportunity to be insulted, and simultaneously laugh or stare in awe at the sheer stupidity of the piece.

Also his FACT: blah format is very annoying.

Sammy
2003-Jul-25, 05:37 AM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.

Don't think he is going to get much action from browsing chicks, but this guy has captured perfectly the zany essence of the hoax nuts =D>

Madcat
2003-Aug-08, 12:44 AM
Which was the one that "proved" :roll: the "hoax" by quoting vedic scripture, which states that the moon is a paradise of milk and honey that is unattainable by the work of human hands? That has my vote for now.

JayUtah
2003-Aug-08, 04:15 PM
I heard of a fundamentalist Muslim argument saying that it was faked because the moon -- being a heavenly body -- could not be walked upon with shod feet, but I can't find a source for it. The Muslims I've talked to about it don't see it as harmonious with mainstream Islam, so it smacks of something made up to make Muslims look bad.

I've discussed the moon hoax with several Krishna scholars and the conversations seem to follow the predictable track: religious leaders apparently unaware of their own assumptions. It always ends up as a science vs. religion debate, with science taking an undeserved beating on the basis of misrepresentation and ignorance. The Krishnas and the hoax authors such as Sibrel and Rene seem to be allies of convenience.

R.A.F.
2003-Aug-08, 04:59 PM
The Krishnas and the hoax authors such as Sibrel and Rene seem to be allies of convenience.

A funny mental picture...Sibrel at the airport selling his book, with an oddly shaved head of course!

trillian73
2003-Aug-08, 11:15 PM
A personal favorite is this one,

http://www.moddlaren.com/metropolity/personal/j-r/users/peter_liefer/peter.html

If you know a single women 30-40, he's single and looking.

Don't think he is going to get much action from browsing chicks, but this guy has captured perfectly the zany essence of the hoax nuts =D>

But he gives a bad name to all the nice, normal janitors out there.

wedgebert
2003-Aug-09, 08:44 PM
While I voted for NASAScam, I have to give credit to Cosmic Dave, both for constantly misspelling the word Skeptic, and for repeatedly mentioning the BA site (and for calling *US* skeptics.)

JayUtah
2003-Aug-10, 12:30 AM
It's spelt "sceptic" in the U.K. where Cosmic Dave lives. The site is still terrible though.

wedgebert
2003-Aug-10, 10:46 PM
It's spelt "sceptic" in the U.K. where Cosmic Dave lives. The site is still terrible though.

Sceptic looks like it's pronounced septic.

freddo
2003-Aug-10, 11:40 PM
It's spelt "sceptic" in the U.K. where Cosmic Dave lives. The site is still terrible though.

Sceptic looks like it's pronounced septic.

It looks like that to me too, despite the fact it's the accepted spelling in my country!

tracer
2003-Aug-13, 05:10 PM
The grass is always greener over the sceptic tank.

tracer
2003-Aug-13, 05:16 PM
Your pick.
Which one is Piper's site?

ToSeek
2003-Aug-13, 06:17 PM
Your pick.
Which one is Piper's site?

I looked for Piper's site a while back (don't ask me why) and couldn't find it. I think it was taken down some time ago.

Correction: it's been archived. You can access it if you pay for the privilege (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart).

I decided to pass. ;)

ToSeek
2003-Aug-13, 06:23 PM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).

Doodler
2003-Aug-13, 08:22 PM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).

What in the heck are they putting in the water these days? :o

ToSeek
2003-Aug-13, 08:40 PM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).

What in the heck are they putting in the water these days? :o

Clearly another example of the pernicious effects of dihydrogen monoxide. (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7367) It can be shown that every HBer has ingested large quantities of this substance prior to espousing their theories.

Doodler
2003-Aug-13, 08:49 PM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).

What in the heck are they putting in the water these days? :o

Clearly another example of the pernicious effects of dihydrogen monoxide. (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7367) It can be shown that every HBer has ingested large quantities of this substance prior to espousing their theories.

Lovely, its hallucinogenic(sp?) as well as caustic...

DataCable
2003-Aug-14, 05:23 AM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).
I've run across links to that site several times before, and I still don't understand what he's blathering about. :o Although, it makes just a slight bit more sense now that I actually look at it and realize his figures use the "European" notation of seperating thousands with periods and decimals with commas, the opposite of how we 'Murricans do it. (I never realized why he has so many figures with 3 null decimal places before #-o )

I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what exactly is the supposed "basis" of these incoherant ramblings?

BlueAnodizeAl
2003-Aug-14, 02:00 PM
NASAscam...

The quality of the arguments that the author of the site states....kinda like listening to a pair of five year olds argue..."huh huh...nuh huh...my mommy said so." Well okay then you must be telling the truth...

kucharek
2003-Aug-14, 02:15 PM
NASAscam...

The quality of the arguments that the author of the site states....kinda like listening to a pair of five year olds argue..."huh huh...nuh huh...my mommy said so." Well okay then you must be telling the truth...
My son is five years old and he is better in arguing than most of these crap-sites...

Kaptain K
2003-Aug-14, 07:01 PM
Your pick.
Which one is Piper's site?

I looked for Piper's site a while back (don't ask me why) and couldn't find it. I think it was taken down some time ago.

Correction: it's been archived. You can access it if you pay for the privilege (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart).

I decided to pass. ;)
If you Google "seethruart", you will get about 30 hits. :o

tracer
2003-Aug-15, 12:36 AM
Here's an extra-lame site (http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1917/proof.html).
I'm probably going to regret asking this, but what exactly is the supposed "basis" of these incoherant ramblings?
The "point" he is trying to make on that page is that every amount of mass has some "maximum speed" that it can achieve given current technology. The higher the mass, the lower this hypothetical "maximum speed."

He bases this notion on the maximum speeds that certain objects he's heard about have been accelerated to in laboratory experiments. For example, he says that the maximum speed we've ever achieved for a mass of 2 grams is 24000 kilometers per hour, based on experiments conducted at the Hypervelocity Impact Test Facility (http://www.wstf.nasa.gov/Hazard/Hyper/Facility.htm) in White Sands, New Mexico.

Because no laboratory has yet been able to accelerate anything as massive as an Apollo spacecraft or a Space Shuttle to anywhere near the 28000 kilometers per hour necessary to achieve Low Earth Orbit, he therefore concludes that space rockets also wouldn't be able to achieve such speeds, and that therefore all space travel is fake. :roll:

His hypothesis seems to assume that all acceleration must be instantaneous, like when a bullet is fired out of a gun. He doesn't take into account long-duration continuous acceleration, as from a launch vehicle.


If you're up for some hand-wringing (and, if you're feeling pedantic, maybe some time spent hauling this guy's butt into court when [not if] he sticks his fingers in his ears and yells "la la la I'm not listening!"), you can take him up on the offer he makes on that webpage. Quote:

"I will give all my money (and even my life) to the first person who knows a scientific publication, f.i. in PHYSICAL REVIEW, that contradicts the 28.800km/hr-limit."

freddo
2003-Aug-15, 01:40 AM
Your pick.
Which one is Piper's site?

I looked for Piper's site a while back (don't ask me why) and couldn't find it. I think it was taken down some time ago.

Correction: it's been archived. You can access it if you pay for the privilege (http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?username=seethruart).

I decided to pass. ;)
If you Google "seethruart", you will get about 30 hits. :o

hehe... I found this page (http://members.ozemail.com.au/~wlangy/art/art.htm)...

Interesting way to put a site together... =D>

Mellow
2003-Aug-18, 10:25 AM
The two most recently quoted sites in this subject have leapt to numbers 2 and 3 in my list of favourite sites, I still like NASASCAM the best.

JustplainBadatEverything
2003-Aug-18, 06:09 PM
When I win the power ball, and get millions of $$, Im gonna get the world court off its butt and sue the likes of these people for false advertisement and Terrorism. Since they are just out to make a $$ they should be sued as scam artists and Terrorists cause all they do is lie and take advantage of people (and their $$) for what they say... (just like Terroists)... Think It would work??? When I win the lottery Im gonna find out... At least maybe it would shut em up for they would be sued.... and loose..... or maybe get put in an insane asylum where they couldnt make any more $$ and spread dis-information....

wedgebert
2003-Aug-18, 11:55 PM
When I win the power ball, and get millions of $$, Im gonna get the world court off its butt and sue the likes of these people for false advertisement and Terrorism. Since they are just out to make a $$ they should be sued as scam artists and Terrorists cause all they do is lie and take advantage of people (and their $$) for what they say... (just like Terroists)... Think It would work??? When I win the lottery Im gonna find out... At least maybe it would shut em up for they would be sued.... and loose..... or maybe get put in an insane asylum where they couldnt make any more $$ and spread dis-information....

Why wait for powerball, why not make your millions from suing the people?

Donnie B.
2003-Aug-19, 01:41 AM
"Terrorists" is a bit strong for my taste. Let's leave that term for people who kill others indiscriminately, okay?