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Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 03:30 AM
In April, I went to the hospital with severe lower abdominal pains. I was diagnosed with diverticulitis (pockets in the wall of the colon - diverticulosis) that had become infected. I have no memory (at least none that make sense) of the next two weeks. From what the surgeon has told me, all did not go exactly as planned. The first surgery (cut out the infected part and sew the two ends back together) didn't quite work out as planned. The sutures leaked and polluted my abdominal cavity with [stuff] :eek: that shouldn't be there! Five days later, they had to go back in and sew the bottom end shut and divert the upper end to a bag hanging off my belly. After a month in rehab learning to deal with the bag and two months in a nursing home, and a bunch of other trials and tribulations, I'm home.

Tomorrow, I go back to the hospital to have the colostomy reversed. To tell the truth, I'm scared! The first time, I didn't have a clue! I had never been hospitalized in my life (pushing 60 years). The surgeon has assured me that there is a 99% chance of success and I'm hoping for the best!

All I know is that this brush with mortality has given me a new respect for and appreciation of life!

Thank you all and I hope to be back soon.

The Backroad Astronomer
2007-Oct-31, 03:34 AM
Hope you make it Kaptian.

Tucson_Tim
2007-Oct-31, 03:38 AM
We'll all be thinkin' of ya, Kaptain.

Keep us posted.

Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 03:39 AM
Me too! More than anybody else.

sarongsong
2007-Oct-31, 03:51 AM
Get well soon, Kap'n---Thanksgiving's coming up!

The Supreme Canuck
2007-Oct-31, 03:52 AM
Best of luck, Kaptain - I like the odds!

Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 03:56 AM
Thanksgiving's coming up!

Yeah, I know! I'll probably still be in a rehab facility. Maybe my bro will bring me some punkin pie

Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 03:58 AM
I like the odds!
I would too, if it wasn't my life at stake!

The Supreme Canuck
2007-Oct-31, 04:02 AM
Hm. Perhaps that came out wrong. Sorry. I was just trying to say that I'm sure you'll do fine. I really do wish you the best.

Maksutov
2007-Oct-31, 04:09 AM
Kaptain K, here's wishing you the best of luck. Hope the procedure goes smoothly and uneventfully and you're back to your normal, healthy self as quickly as possible.

Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 04:27 AM
Thanks everyone!

You'll be the first to know when I get back.

01101001
2007-Oct-31, 04:41 AM
Thanks everyone!

You'll be the first to know when I get back.

Looking forward to your swift return, K.

CodeSlinger
2007-Oct-31, 06:12 AM
Best of luck, sir, see you soon :)

astromark
2007-Oct-31, 06:25 AM
Integrity and honar.... Things you have earned.. I wish you well:) speedy recovery to the pages of this thread..... and thinking of you. For you.

Jens
2007-Oct-31, 06:44 AM
I would too, if it wasn't my life at stake!

I'm not sure, but when the doctors say "99% chance of success", don't they mean there is a 99% chance the operation will be successful, i.e. they'll successfully close the colostomy? I don't think it necessarily means there is only a 99% chance you'll survive the procedure. But I suppose you could ask.

In any case, even if it's a 1% risk of death, it's still better odds than crewing on the Space Shuttle!

Gillianren
2007-Oct-31, 06:50 AM
I'll be thinking of you. So, I think, will we all. Best of wishes.

Van Rijn
2007-Oct-31, 09:34 AM
I don't know if you're still up (assuming you can sleep), Kaptain K, but if you are, this is another wish for good luck.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Oct-31, 10:09 AM
And another. Good luck, sir. :)

Whirlpool
2007-Oct-31, 10:19 AM
I'll include you in my prayers Kap.

;)

mfumbesi
2007-Oct-31, 11:02 AM
Get well soon Kap......I hope there will be a witty comment from you soon, about the whole experience.

mugaliens
2007-Oct-31, 12:32 PM
I feel for you more than you know. I'm on my third bout of intestinal disorder since late July, and the docs only today actually performed an ultrasound. After two months of "give it time, here's something for the nausea" they're finally coming around and ordered a bunch of bloodwork and samples two days ago.

Doodler
2007-Oct-31, 12:41 PM
I think when this is over, there will be no man or woman alive who will ever savor the privilege of sitting upon the porcelain throne more than you, Kap. ;)

Good luck, and my best to your plumber.

Kaptain K
2007-Oct-31, 01:54 PM
I'm not sure, but when the doctors say "99% chance of success", don't they mean there is a 99% chance the operation will be successful, i.e. they'll successfully close the colostomy? I don't think it necessarily means there is only a 99% chance you'll survive the procedure. But I suppose you could ask.

In any case, even if it's a 1% risk of death, it's still better odds than crewing on the Space Shuttle!
Actually, I did ask ... and yes the odds are that I'll survive the procedure and come out good as new!

Thanks everyone for all your kind words!

I'm off to the hospital now.

Argos
2007-Oct-31, 01:57 PM
All the best for ya, Kaptain. IŽm sure youŽll be back soon. :)

closetgeek
2007-Oct-31, 02:11 PM
The odds seem good. Hoping the best for you.


In April, I went to the hospital with severe lower abdominal pains. I was diagnosed with diverticulitis (pockets in the wall of the colon - diverticulosis) that had become infected. I have no memory (at least none that make sense) of the next two weeks. From what the surgeon has told me, all did not go exactly as planned. The first surgery (cut out the infected part and sew the two ends back together) didn't quite work out as planned. The sutures leaked and polluted my abdominal cavity with [stuff] :eek: that shouldn't be there! Five days later, they had to go back in and sew the bottom end shut and divert the upper end to a bag hanging off my belly. After a month in rehab learning to deal with the bag and two months in a nursing home, and a bunch of other trials and tribulations, I'm home.

Tomorrow, I go back to the hospital to have the colostomy reversed. To tell the truth, I'm scared! The first time, I didn't have a clue! I had never been hospitalized in my life (pushing 60 years). The surgeon has assured me that there is a 99% chance of success and I'm hoping for the best!

All I know is that this brush with mortality has given me a new respect for and appreciation of life!

Thank you all and I hope to be back soon.

cjl
2007-Oct-31, 02:23 PM
Good luck Kaptain, and I'm sure you'll do well.

Moose
2007-Oct-31, 02:45 PM
Tomorrow, I go back to the hospital to have the colostomy reversed. To tell the truth, I'm scared! The first time, I didn't have a clue! I had never been hospitalized in my life (pushing 60 years). The surgeon has assured me that there is a 99% chance of success and I'm hoping for the best!

Kaptain K, I want to reassure you: I've been there, done that, wore the ostomy (first end, then loop) for a year and a half while my small intestines were rebuilt.

You're actually well past the worst of it. And then some. Your last surgery was the tough one to experience. This next bit is nothing by comparison. The home stretch. Utterly anti-climatic. With direct experience, I can say that there's sunshine and puppies on the other end of this surgery.

You'll be sore, you'll be stiff, you'll be restricted from lifting for a while, but by the end of next week, two weeks tops, you will never look back. I never had reason to.

If you need to talk, PM me. If you need more direct and interactive reassurance, have questions, want to gripe, whatever, absolutely feel free to PM me for direct contact info. Email, phone, MSN. It's all good. I'm in a quiet (and somewhat hidden) neighborhood, so I doubt I'll have more than a small handful of trick-or-treaters.

Swift
2007-Nov-01, 03:33 AM
Kaptain K,
I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon and wish you the best. My wife and I certainly know what you are going through. I have fairly well controlled colitis, but she has pretty bad Crohn's disease and has had an ostomy for years (unreversible). I hope everything goes very well. That first taste of solid food, whether jello or pumpkin pie, should be great.

mike alexander
2007-Nov-02, 01:03 AM
My best wishes are here when you get back, Kap'n. I have the same -itis, which is currently controllable with diet and hyoscamine when the crampies get too bad.

My real scary happened when I had a blockage that required emergency surgery and removal of a foot or so of tubing. And that was in 1953! (Yes, I was quite young at the time!).

Maksutov
2007-Nov-02, 04:47 AM
[edit]My real scary happened when I had a blockage that required emergency surgery and removal of a foot or so of tubing. And that was in 1953! (Yes, I was quite young at the time!).Ironic. I had the same thing happen in late 1949/early 1950. The family doctor later told me I had five minutes to live when they got me on the operating table.

Hurry back, Keptin! We're like empty wessels vitout chou!

mike alexander
2007-Nov-02, 02:17 PM
Maksutov wrote:
Ironic. I had the same thing happen in late 1949/early 1950. The family doctor later told me I had five minutes to live when they got me on the operating table.

Are you sure you're not me stuck in a time displacement loop? Or vice versa?

Maksutov
2007-Nov-07, 08:24 AM
Are you sure you're not me stuck in a time displacement loop? Or vice versa?Probably. I'd make a good precedent of vice.

Hope the Kaptain's doing OK.

Tucson_Tim
2007-Nov-07, 02:08 PM
Hope the Kaptain's doing OK.

Ditto. I thought he would be back to posting by now . . .

Swift
2007-Nov-07, 02:12 PM
Ditto. I thought he would be back to posting by now . . .
My wife has been through several abdominal surgeries. For whatever reason, they are very weakening, even when they go perfectly. She was usually hospitalized for about a week and then had six to eight weeks at home till she was back to even close to her normal energy levels. It would not surprise me if we didn't hear from the Kaptain for another week or two.

Neverfly
2007-Nov-07, 02:15 PM
Ditto. I thought he would be back to posting by now . . .

I thought he was a she...

Moose
2007-Nov-07, 02:44 PM
Ditto. I thought he would be back to posting by now . . .

That might be true for an appendectomy, but definitely not the surgery he received. This was a relatively easy operation (compared to the original removal/reconstruction), but it's still not trivial.

If all went perfectly on schedule (unlikely but possible), he'll likely only be on liquids by now. Every other day they'll nudge his diet a bit closer to normal. They won't release him until he's eating normally and can move at least somewhat comfortably.

Also, Swift is right. It can take weeks to regain even a portion of one's normal vigor after this sort of surgery.

You shouldn't even begin to expect seeing him for at least another week, hard minimum, and there's a chance depending on his situation he'll be in an assisted-living home again (and away from the net) for a few more weeks until he's strengthened enough to be able to handle day-to-day chores without risk of injuring himself.

So hang tight and try not to worry too much. He'll be with us again when he can be.

Cougar
2007-Nov-07, 06:05 PM
From what the surgeon has told me, all did not go exactly as planned. The first surgery (cut out the infected part and sew the two ends back together) didn't quite work out as planned. The sutures leaked and polluted my abdominal cavity with [stuff] :eek: that shouldn't be there! Five days later, they had to go back in and sew the bottom end shut and divert the upper end to a bag hanging off my belly. After a month in rehab learning to deal with the bag and two months in a nursing home, and a bunch of other trials and tribulations, I'm home.

Sounds like you may have a case for medical malpractice. Oh, sure, people complain about our litigious society as the cause of rising health care costs, and that may well be, but what's a patient to do when a doctor actually does screw up and cause the sort of damage and repercussions you describe... or worse?

Best wishes, Kaptain K. Fortunately, surgical screw-ups are quite rare, and I'm sure we all look forward to your return to the boards.

Moose
2007-Nov-07, 06:43 PM
Sounds like you may have a case for medical malpractice.

I disagree.

The reason I'd had three abdominal surgeries instead of two or one was to get around the not large, but not trivial risk of leaking, healing sutures when your guts first go under load before they've had the month-or-two they need to heal fully.

Re-constructive abdominal surgery of this kind is treated as a major surgery, and that's precisely why.

Kap would have been told about that slight risk beforehand. I was.

chrissy
2007-Nov-07, 08:40 PM
well i just hope that kaptain k is well on the way to a great recovery and things get back to normality as soon as possible hope to hear from you very soon

Cougar
2007-Nov-07, 08:48 PM
Sounds like you may have a case for medical malpractice.
I disagree.

The reason I'd had three abdominal surgeries instead of two or one was to get around the not large, but not trivial risk of leaking, healing sutures when your guts first go under load before they've had the month-or-two they need to heal fully.
You could very well be right. I don't know how common or preventable such leakage is. It's a question for another surgeon.


Kap would have been told about that slight risk beforehand. I was.
A friend of mine was told of the risk of 'bleeding' during a laparoscopic gallbladder surgery, but it seems that did not quite cover the inadvertent laceration of her iliac artery (just below the aorta) and the subsequent loss of 6 units of blood. She recovered, but was pretty messed up for several years. Notification of the risks of a surgery does not always protect the surgeon from a lawsuit in the case of a grievous mistake.

Neverfly
2007-Nov-07, 09:40 PM
You could very well be right. I don't know how common or preventable such leakage is. It's a question for another surgeon.


A friend of mine was told of the risk of 'bleeding' during a laparoscopic gallbladder surgery, but it seems that did not quite cover the inadvertent laceration of her iliac artery (just below the aorta) and the subsequent loss of 6 units of blood. She recovered, but was pretty messed up for several years. Notification of the risks of a surgery does not always protect the surgeon from a lawsuit in the case of a grievous mistake.

Mistakes happen.
If a mechanic or plumber or such make a mistake- it rarely results in a lawsuit. Sure, he may be out a few bucks, but it gets resolved. In the case of it going to a suit, he may be out a few more bucks...

But medical lawsuits often go in the millions. Also, many people don't seem to understand the difference between malpractice and mistake.

Something as tedious as surgery is bound to have things go wrong. Even the most steady handed, accomplished and knowledgable surgeon can asttest to this.

It's sad but, that is the nature of life. Without surgeons, etc. we would be helpless against the very things we go under the knife to have fixed.

People act like Doctors are dimwitted unfeeling charlatans that don't care if they chop up your liver or not. They aren't and they do care.

No offense Cougar, I'm just venting.

01101001
2007-Nov-07, 09:41 PM
He'll be with us again when he can be.

Note to us: Next time -- not for K, I hope, but if/when someone else has a turn -- if the adventurer isn't, like, all web-capable from a hospital room, we provide a text-message address to get a forwarded shout out to us all if only indirectly via the ol' wireless mobile.

I always enjoy getting messages from pain-medicated minds.

Neverfly
2007-Nov-07, 09:45 PM
Note to us: Next time -- not for K, I hope, but if/when someone else has a turn -- if the adventurer isn't, like, all web-capable from a hospital room, we provide a text-message address to get a forwarded shout out to us all if only indirectly via the ol' wireless mobile.

I always enjoy getting messages from pain-medicated minds.

The downside is when you send them a text to check on them...

And they just left the bar having celebrated they are still alive.

You get a hundred texts in a row saying, "I love you baby. I want you back. Can you come over?"