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Moose
2007-Nov-12, 11:22 AM
I moved into my new house early last year. Between the renovations, the day-to-day chores, the cats and the full time job, I'd been putting off a major chore. It's high time for me to update my Zombie Plan. The difficulty: my situation has changed enough that I have to restart mine from scratch.

Guys will already know what I'm talking about. For the ladies among us, a Zombie Plan is your own personal plan on how you would survive if Night of the Living Dead style zombies suddenly took over the world and start hunting down the last pockets of living survivors for their brains.

Zombie Plans are important to have for what should be obvious reasons.

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I'm thinking my "bunker of last resort" is likely to center around my workshop/coldroom as an emergency bunker, cement walls on all sides (except the door). Same with the stairwell/ceiling and floor. As the door faces out perpendicular to my staircase, there's limited opportunities for zombies to bunch up and ram my door down. If I can find a way to secure the door.

rigel
2007-Nov-12, 01:28 PM
As with many other plans (nuclear disaster, tsunamis, red dawn, etc), it's pack up the car and head for the hills.

The_Radiation_Specialist
2007-Nov-12, 03:36 PM
Or try installing one of these in your house.

http://www.craftster.org/forum/index.php?topic=202668.msg2158872;topicseen

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Blitzkrieg119/1.jpg

Here's the sign

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/Blitzkrieg119/11.jpg

Noclevername
2007-Nov-12, 04:07 PM
The traditional way to deanimate Zombies in Voodoo tradition was to sew salt into their mouths. A shotgun full of rock salt combines the best of the old and the new ways.

One Skunk Todd
2007-Nov-12, 04:54 PM
I'm thinking my "bunker of last resort" is likely to center around my workshop/coldroom as an emergency bunker, cement walls on all sides (except the door). Same with the stairwell/ceiling and floor. As the door faces out perpendicular to my staircase, there's limited opportunities for zombies to bunch up and ram my door down. If I can find a way to secure the door.

Burt Gummer thought that was a good idea too, until a giant graboid bashed through the wall. Luckily he and Reba McEntire had enough firepower to handle it. :)

KrisSam
2007-Nov-12, 05:02 PM
my plan is to get some weapons, some gear to hold back their teeth (thick jackets, long johns, etc.), and a vespa/truck/beetle of some sort! should be a lot of fun!

Lianachan
2007-Nov-12, 05:02 PM
I'm not telling you my Zombie Plan in case you retain that information when you are yourself turned. Sorry.

Moose
2007-Nov-12, 05:40 PM
Burt Gummer thought that was a good idea too, until a giant graboid bashed through the wall. Luckily he and Reba McEntire had enough firepower to handle it. :)

Giant graboids are another plan for another day. Right now, I'm satisfied with preparing for masses of ordinary zombies.

Now that I do have a workshop, I'm seriously considering converting my old toolbox into a "emergency zombie and computer-repair kit"*, beginning with stenciling an appropriate label. Which, I think, will be similar to the image TRS brought to the party.

* If the zombie invasion starts in my area, I may have to take drastic measures to keep my PC running for BAUT access and gaming. Priorities, People!

RalofTyr
2007-Nov-12, 05:41 PM
My Zombie plan is to great an army of zombies what will do my bidding....

Swift
2007-Nov-12, 05:43 PM
What about zombie threads (http://www.bautforum.com/1110917-post32.html) (they eat brains too!). How do we kill those off? ;)

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-12, 06:30 PM
As with many other plans (nuclear disaster, tsunamis, red dawn, etc), it's pack up the car and head for the hills.

Come on, let's stick with likely scenarios. ;)

I shall stock up on loads of antibiotics on the off-chance that the bites are not final. After all, nobody seems to have tried this.

Actually we cannot have a Dawn of the Dead style zombie attack. They only occur in parallel worlds that do not have zombie films.

Incidentally, zombie fans might be interested in the book World War Z, which is being filmed at the moment.

The Supreme Canuck
2007-Nov-12, 06:36 PM
I shall stock up on loads of antibiotics on the off-chance that the bites are not final. After all, nobody seems to have tried this.

Wouldn't work, I'm afraid. according to the seminal work in the field, The Zombie Survival Guide by Max Brooks, zombism is caused by a virus, not a bacterium.

soylentgreen
2007-Nov-12, 07:25 PM
I'm thinking my "bunker of last resort" is likely to center around my workshop/coldroom as an emergency bunker, cement walls on all sides (except the door). Same with the stairwell/ceiling and floor. As the door faces out perpendicular to my staircase, there's limited opportunities for zombies to bunch up and ram my door down. If I can find a way to secure the door.

Bottlenecks are good...provided it doesn't blowback on you. Also make sure everyone's hair is cut close!

My cousin just bought a split-level house with lots of windows and sliding glass doors on the lower level...which rests even on the gorund out back. My first issue was to point out their poor defensive situation in the event of a zombapocalypse. They looked at me like I had three heads.

Keep in mind, though, that, as Romero has tried to tell us again and again, your biggest threat probably won't be ghouls, but other survivors. Particularly redneck posses!

pilgrim
2007-Nov-12, 07:28 PM
Funny, the first thing that popped to mind was the facebook zombie game thing, in which case my plan is to be a slayer, with a bunch of other slayers for back up. There's a few pesky zombies there, one of them an old friend of mine who keeps attacking me with her zombie, and other stuff. Another of my dark little secrets surfaces! (The having a facebook account secret)

mike alexander
2007-Nov-12, 07:39 PM
There are some antivirals that might be tried, like amantidine. Or maybe vitamin C. Perhaps we could throw oranges at them (limes in the UK).

But if zombification is caused by a virus, it behooves us to work on a vaccine. It could be one of those multiple innoculations, MMZ (measles-mumps-zombification).

Moose
2007-Nov-12, 08:40 PM
But if zombification is caused by a virus, it behooves us to work on a vaccine. It could be one of those multiple innoculations, MMZ (measles-mumps-zombification).

I'd love to see those "concerned mothers" start whining about Autism from the zombification vaccine while they're having their brains sautéed by what used to be their neighbors.

Captain Kidd
2007-Nov-12, 08:53 PM
Burt Gummer thought that was a good idea too, until a giant graboid bashed through the wall. Luckily he and Reba McEntire had enough firepower to handle it. :)He fixed that by surrounding his house with an underground cement wall. Unfortunately, the ummm, flying version still got in.

Our current apartment is only accessible by a private stairwell. So as they're making their way up the stairs, I can fire down on them. Unfortunately, there are three other apartments on my floor with only drywall separating us. So it's not a very defensible position, especially as it lacks an escape route. Plus I can't rely on some other resident not pulling something stupid and catching the building on fire.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-12, 11:58 PM
I have all-purpose supernatural crisis caches hidden in my house and the surrounding area. A tipical sample:
One week's emergency rations.
Compass and maps of escape routes.
Binoculars (See 'em before they see you).
My trusty katanas.
Gasoline bombs.
Salt.
Holy Water.
Regular water. (In case of Witches of the West)
Silver knives.
Crosses.
Book of magic spells.
Wooden stakes.
Matches.
Universal Translator.

That covers vampires, werwolves, zombies, witches, mummies and most alien invaders.
What is the weakness of Pod People, again?

mike alexander
2007-Nov-13, 12:04 AM
Pod people: just pull out the earplugs and they stop dancing.

Gillianren
2007-Nov-13, 12:40 AM
I'd love to see those "concerned mothers" start whining about Autism from the zombification vaccine while they're having their brains sautéed by what used to be their neighbors.

They can start with Jenny McCarthy, whom I saw on CNN this weekend.

Moose
2007-Nov-13, 12:44 AM
They can start with Jenny McCarthy, whom I saw on CNN this weekend.

I had her specifically in mind, now that you mention it. She's been making an ignorant nuisance of herself on the talk-show circuit lately.

soylentgreen
2007-Nov-13, 01:30 AM
I imagine nobody in this forum is truly in the informed position to lecture credibly on those vaccination issues let alone make a personal jab at people who may be concerned about the mercury in vaccinations.

Every so often, people here come down with a case of the "George Plimpton"s. Aside from pathological pedantry, it's one of the worst traits on display around here.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-13, 01:34 AM
Every so often, people here come down with a case of the "George Plimpton"s. Aside from pathological pedantry, it's one of the worst traits on display around here.
All that I know about George Plimpton is that he wrote an awesome biography of Ernest Shackleton, and that's probably not what you meant.
What did you mean?
And what is the weakness of Pod People?

sarongsong
2007-Nov-13, 05:27 AM
...my Zombie Plan. So what's yours?Camouflage!
Every so often a simple relaxing drink comes along with an equally carefree name. The Zombie is not one...a postmortem in a glass...if you are going to hell in a handbasket, the handle should be well made.
INGREDIENTS...
chow (http://www.chow.com/recipes/10368)Bottoms up! http://www.bautforum.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Ronald Brak
2007-Nov-13, 05:32 AM
I imagine nobody in this forum is truly in the informed position to lecture credibly on those vaccination issues let alone make a personal jab at people who may be concerned about the mercury in vaccinations.

I am! Just let me get my lecture notes in order...

Let's see:

1. Vaccinations - good
2. Mercury - bad
3. Little or no mercury in modern vaccinations - So vaccinations still good.

While it's a good idea to minimize exposure to mercury, the levels that used to be found in typical vaccinations don't appear to pose a threat unless people are also exposed to other significant sources of mercury. There also doesn't appear to be a correlation between vaccination and autism incidence.

Maksutov
2007-Nov-13, 06:36 AM
I'd get out my Hallowe'en costume of a few years ago and join 'em.

As a last resort, these sounds would probably drive them away (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d8/The_Zombies_Album.jpg/200px-The_Zombies_Album.jpg).

BTW, not all brain-eating monsters are zombies:

http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/708/thetickvrsthrakazogpq4.th.jpg (http://img148.imageshack.us/my.php?image=thetickvrsthrakazogpq4.jpg)

WaxRubiks
2007-Nov-13, 08:22 AM
My zombie plan: to walk around going "gghhaaaa rggghaa".



eta: ie. business as usual.

Moose
2007-Nov-13, 10:16 AM
I imagine nobody in this forum is truly in the informed position to lecture credibly on those vaccination issues let alone make a personal jab at people who may be concerned about the mercury in vaccinations.

Stephen Barrett, M.D (http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/immu/autism.html). does.


[...] there is no sensible reason to believe that any vaccine can cause autism or any kind of behavioral disorder.



There are no proven data to suggest that measles vaccine will increase the risk of developing autism or any other behavioral disorder [28]. The known benefits vastly exceed any unknown risks. The CDC continues to recommend two doses of MMR vaccine for all children who do not have a known medical contraindication; the first dose is recommended at 12-15 months of age and the second dose is recommended at either 4-6 years of age or at 11-12 years of age [30,31].


To assure the safety of vaccines, the CDC, the FDA, the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and other federal agencies routinely examine any new evidence that would suggest possible problems with the safety of vaccines. Currently, CDC is conducting a study in the metropolitan Atlanta area to further evaluate any possible association between MMR vaccination and autism.


Immunization against measles has led to a dramatic decrease in the incidence of measles, which is sometimes fatal. I believe that the manner in which CNN covered this issue was extremely irresponsible and will result in the death of children whose parents are scared out of having their children receive it.

Dr. Steve Novella, M.D. (http://theskepticsguide.org/), a neurologist, and host of the Skeptics Guide to the Universe podcast has a lot to say about it too. Short paraphrased answer from a recent podcast: there's no evidence whatsoever that links the measles vaccine with autism, and Jenny McCarthy is doing tremendous harm by going off the way she is.

In any case, this thread isn't about Jenny McCarthy's autistic kid. There are other threads more suitable for that discussion. So I hope you're not planning on hijacking this one outright.

If you would like to discuss the zombification vaccine, which contains no mercury whatsoever, feel free.

Van Rijn
2007-Nov-13, 10:53 AM
If you would like to discuss the zombification vaccine, which contains no mercury whatsoever, feel free.

My invisible elf reportedly took the anti-zombie vaccine and, as far as anyone can tell (which is admittedly difficult) is doing well.

As for anti-zombie tactics: Back during the cold war I had a plan to head out to an abandoned mine I knew about that had water. I kept a few things in the trunk of the car for supplies. Realistically, there were big holes in the plan, and I primarily intended it as a fallout shelter, but I can see where it might have been a good anti-zombie base, as long as the zombies weren't too smart. It was out of the city and not to obvious. It probably could be used even today.

By the way, has anyone seen this webcomic?

http://lastblood.net/

Very nasty, with vampires protecting a very few surviving humans from very smart zombies.

Ronald Brak
2007-Nov-13, 11:50 AM
By the way, has anyone seen this webcomic?

There are still comic made in the English speaking world? So hard not to read it backwards like Japanese comics...

Maksutov
2007-Nov-13, 01:16 PM
There are still comic made in the English speaking world? So hard not to read it backwards like Japanese comics...How true.

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/3729/allyourcomicgb6.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allyourcomicgb6.jpg)

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-13, 02:56 PM
I've just wasted an hour reading the darned comic!

Mind you, it was a very entertaining hour... Very impressive, in fact.

ETA - Mak, that would be a nice new avatar for you!

sarongsong
2007-Nov-13, 05:44 PM
...If you would like to discuss the zombification vaccine, which contains no mercury whatsoever, feel free.What are it's INGREDIENTS (http://www.informedchoice.info/cocktail.html), then? :)

Moose
2007-Nov-13, 06:00 PM
The vaccine is, with the exception of the active ingredient, entirely natural. There are no trans-uranic elements whatsoever involved with the zombification vaccine.

The active ingredient, the only exotic ingredient, is unobtanium, which as we know has no negative effect whatsoever on the human body. No side-effects at all, actually.

It's made with a new hybrid technique. You apply homeopathic methods in its creation and achieve scientific efficacies for dilutions past Avogadro's Limit.

And remember, no side-effects. I can't emphasize that enough.

[With thanks to many notable skeptics (including James Randi) from whom I've borrowed these jokes.]

Captain Kidd
2007-Nov-13, 06:07 PM
Hmm, upon reflection of my dwelling's ease of accessibility, I need to modify my plan somewhat. The bear attack scenario should work good. First on the list is to get some roommates.
Criteria:

They need to be able to shoot decently (don't have to be great since they're firing down a stairwell)
Not easily panicked
They run slower than my wife and I

The last is the most important. That way if we lose the apartment, we'll have time to get to the car and escape. I guess I could shoot them in the leg, but that's just cruel.

ggremlin
2007-Nov-13, 06:13 PM
Turn off the TV, to prevent increase in zombie population. For those already turned give directions to closest large gathering of government leaders, resulting in death by starvation.

Casus_belli
2007-Nov-13, 06:28 PM
My cunning plan to deal with zombie attack is to remove my own brain. In the event of a zombie attack, expect to see me championing various conspiracy threads.

Fazor
2007-Nov-13, 06:33 PM
What's so bad about becomming a zombie? They don't have to work. They don't clean or do chores. They just mill about and eat. Sounds like the perfect life to me.

Therefore, in the event of a large zombie outbreak, I think i'll just go join in. Sure, it might take a bit to get use to eating live people's brains, but I'm sure if you add enough Ketchup it'll be fine.

Swift
2007-Nov-13, 06:58 PM
The vaccine is, with the exception of the active ingredient, entirely natural. There are no trans-uranic elements whatsoever involved with the zombification vaccine.

The active ingredient, the only exotic ingredient, is unobtanium, which as we know has no negative effect whatsoever on the human body. No side-effects at all, actually.

It's made with a new hybrid technique. You apply homeopathic methods in its creation and achieve scientific efficacies for dilutions past Avogadro's Limit.

And remember, no side-effects. I can't emphasize that enough.

[With thanks to many notable skeptics (including James Randi) from whom I've borrowed these jokes.]
- Take one zombie and dissolve in clean, deionized or distilled water (may require heat and stirring to dissolve complete).
- Take zombie solution and progressively dilute till a final dilution of less than one part zombie in 10^23 parts water.
- Vacinate patient using a subcutaneous needle or pneumatic injector with a dose of 3 ml per 50 kg body mass.
- Patients may require booster vacinations every five years.

Swift
2007-Nov-13, 07:00 PM
What's so bad about becomming a zombie? They don't have to work. They don't clean or do chores. They just mill about and eat. Sounds like the perfect life to me.

And how do we tell when you've become a zombie? :p

Fazor
2007-Nov-13, 07:08 PM
When I start to speak in unintelligable groans and mumbles....err, wait. When my clothes become torn and dirty...dang. Um, tell ya what, I'll just send an e-mail notice. :)

Swift
2007-Nov-13, 07:16 PM
When I start to speak in unintelligable groans and mumbles....err, wait. When my clothes become torn and dirty...dang. Um, tell ya what, I'll just send an e-mail notice. :)
I guess we'll have to wait for Letterman to do "Top Ten Signs You've Turned Into a Zombie".


# 10 - Grandma's receipe for calf brains starts to sound good.
# 9 - Grandma's brain starts to sound good too.

Moose
2007-Nov-13, 07:24 PM
No smart comments for the moment, I just wanted to unleash my new sig, based on my last post in this thread. I think I managed to handcrank my geekiness up a few notches. After the usual trial/tweak period, I may end up using this one in general.

DyerWolf
2007-Nov-13, 07:53 PM
Here's a couple of links to a similar product which may prevent you from becoming a zombie.

Talk to your doctor.

treatment for dysphoric social
attention consumption deficit anxiety disorder (http://www.havidol.com/index.php)

Drug Information (http://www.havidol.com/pdfs/prescribing.pdf)

Noclevername
2007-Nov-13, 08:48 PM
I guess we'll have to wait for Letterman to do "Top Ten Signs You've Turned Into a Zombie".


# 10 - Grandma's receipe for calf brains starts to sound good.
# 9 - Grandma's brain starts to sound good too.


# 8 - Skin problems are cleared up by losing skin.
# 7 - You get a bad case of maggot itch.
# 6 - You look more and more like Abe Vigoda as time goes by.
# 5 - Your girlfriend's pet name for you is "Skeletor".
# 4 - Your smell repels people but attracts seagulls.
# 3 - You wear glasses not to improve your vision, but to hold in your eyeballs.
# 2 - You find reality TV fascinating.

And the # 1 sign you've turned into a zombie---
You're dead, dude.

Fazor
2007-Nov-13, 08:59 PM
..you forgot the sudden speech impediment that forces you to pronounce every word like "Brains" (few people know it, but zombies speak very eloquently...just all the beautiful words they know sound the same).

Noclevername
2007-Nov-13, 09:15 PM
..you forgot the sudden speech impediment that forces you to pronounce every word like "Brains" (few people know it, but zombies speak very eloquently...just all the beautiful words they know sound the same).

"Brains" is surprisingly difficult to say correctly with a rotted-off tongue. Yet somehow they always manage. Kudos, zombies, kudos.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-14, 12:55 AM
..you forgot the sudden speech impediment that forces you to pronounce every word like "Brains" (few people know it, but zombies speak very eloquently...just all the beautiful words they know sound the same).
That reminds me of this. (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/62401-shadow-moon.html#post1084199)

HenrikOlsen
2007-Nov-14, 05:26 AM
Salt.
Holy Water.
Regular water. (In case of Witches of the West)

Actually you can optimize on this.
Since you make holy water by mixing salt and regular water you can leave that out as long as you can mix the others.

Maksutov
2007-Nov-14, 05:32 AM
I guess we'll have to wait for Letterman to do "Top Ten Signs You've Turned Into a Zombie".


# 10 - Grandma's receipe for calf brains starts to sound good.
# 9 - Grandma's brain starts to sound good too.Damn writers' strike!

Maksutov
2007-Nov-14, 05:41 AM
[edit]It's made with a new hybrid technique. You apply homeopathic methods in its creation and achieve scientific efficacies for dilutions past Avogadro's Limit....My All New Formula Zombie Zapper™ vaccine starts with guacamole. Despite many different formulations, however, I could never get past Avocado's Number. Then I realized each formula called for only one mole.

Maksutov
2007-Nov-14, 05:43 AM
[edit]ETA - Mak, that would be a nice new avatar for you!Good idea! Just need to change the hair color and make the eyes a little bigger. http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/566/iconwink6tn.gif

Noclevername
2007-Nov-14, 05:44 AM
Then I realized each formula called for only one mole.

My yard's full of 'em, help yourself.

sarongsong
2007-Nov-14, 05:51 AM
Trademark Infringement Alert:
Zombie Zapper [tm] (http://packetstormsecurity.nl/distributed/zombie/) is a free, open source tool...

Halcyon Dayz
2007-Nov-14, 06:38 AM
Since you make holy water by mixing salt and regular water you can leave that out as long as you can mix the others.
:shifty:
I guess you're not catholic.
Holy water isn't made by adding something physical.
Regular water is turned in to holy water by an act of magic.

Maksutov
2007-Nov-14, 07:29 AM
Trademark Infringement Alert:
Zombie Zapper [tm] (http://packetstormsecurity.nl/distributed/zombie/) is a free, open source tool...Nah, my product is

All New Formula Zombie Zapper™

And for now something completely different.

Noclevername
2007-Nov-14, 08:04 AM
I've got an idea for a product that splits them in half. It's called the Zombie Zipper...

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-14, 08:03 PM
I guess you're not catholic.
Holy water isn't made by adding something physical.
Regular water is turned in to holy water by an act of magic.
You don't have to be Catholic to know that.
(Just a knowledgeable monster-fighter)

mike alexander
2007-Nov-14, 10:43 PM
Everybody knows you make holy water by boiling the hell out of it.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-15, 12:33 AM
Everybody knows you make holy water by boiling the hell out of it.
No, that's how you make steam.

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 12:34 AM
No, that's how you make steam.

(it was a pun)

mike alexander
2007-Nov-15, 12:48 AM
And a generic one at that. Like, "How do you cook kidneys? Boil the **** out of them."

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-15, 01:21 AM
(it was a pun)
I was trying the "act like they're serious" brand of humor that is hard to understand when you can't hear voice inflections.

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 01:29 AM
I was trying the "act like they're serious" brand of humor that is hard to understand when you can't hear voice inflections.

...Do you see a flaw in that plan? ;)

Gillianren
2007-Nov-15, 03:35 AM
And a generic one at that.

Terry Pratchett used it in Carpe Jugulum, and I've always been fond of it.

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 05:23 AM
How do you make holy water? An icemaker and a shotgun.

Maksutov
2007-Nov-15, 10:08 AM
[edit]ETA - Mak, that would be a nice new avatar for you!Actually I'm considering one of these three kinder, warmer avatars that more closely mirror my true character:

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/1416/avatar03pg2.th.jpg (http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avatar03pg2.jpg)

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/1605/avatar02ym3.th.jpg (http://img106.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avatar02ym3.jpg)

http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6459/avatar01zn8.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avatar01zn8.jpg)

Whirlpool
2007-Nov-15, 10:20 AM
Nice hair , Mak.

;)

WaxRubiks
2007-Nov-15, 11:45 AM
I was trying the "act like they're serious" brand of humor that is hard to understand when you can't hear voice inflections.

well, I got it.

Swift
2007-Nov-15, 02:06 PM
Actually I'm considering one of these three kinder, warmer avatars that more closely mirror my true character:

Perfect! Make any good Robot Chickens lately doctor?

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 04:44 PM
It's alive!

Moose
2007-Nov-15, 05:07 PM
Buck buck buck buck, buuck buck buck buck, buuck buck buck bububububuck buck buck.
[chorus]Buck buck buck buck, buuck buck buck buck, buuck buck buck bububububuck buck buck.

[solo]Bucaaaaaak!

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-15, 08:24 PM
To re-ask my previous question:
What can I do to defend against Pod People?

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 08:37 PM
To re-ask my previous question:
What can I do to defend against Pod People?

Don't sleep.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-15, 09:07 PM
Don't sleep.
I know that. We read a play of the movie in school, but I don't remember what actually kills Pod People. Can you refresh my memory?

Noclevername
2007-Nov-15, 09:13 PM
I know that. We read a play of the movie in school, but I don't remember what actually kills Pod People. Can you refresh my memory?

Depends which version, IIRC the novel and the first two filmed versions have the duplicates die like anyone else. Couldn't tell you squat about the other two versions.

Swift
2007-Nov-15, 09:29 PM
To re-ask my previous question:
What can I do to defend against Pod People?
Unplug their headphones? (http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/12/GirlwithIpodDM_228x398.jpg)

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-16, 01:02 AM
Depends which version, IIRC the novel and the first two filmed versions have the duplicates die like anyone else. Couldn't tell you squat about the other two versions.
So, don't sleep, know the signs and carry conventional weapons? Sounds good. (I thought there was something in the play about destroying the pods they grew from, though?)

Noclevername
2007-Nov-16, 10:45 AM
So, don't sleep, know the signs and carry conventional weapons? Sounds good. (I thought there was something in the play about destroying the pods they grew from, though?)

Yes, wander around armed, paranoid and with sleep deprivation. It'll keep you "safer".:)

HenrikOlsen
2007-Nov-17, 05:57 PM
So, don't sleep, know the signs and carry conventional weapons? Sounds good. (I thought there was something in the play about destroying the pods they grew from, though?)
Destroying the pods is a prevention against copying, not a way of killing the copy once made. For that use anything that would have killed the original.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-18, 06:05 PM
Destroying the pods is a prevention against copying, not a way of killing the copy once made. For that use anything that would have killed the original.
Thank you.

Whirlpool
2007-Nov-20, 05:58 AM
Not sleeping for a couple of days make you look like a Zombie.

:think:

Noclevername
2007-Nov-20, 12:01 PM
Not sleeping for a couple of days make you look like a Zombie.

:think:

That's why zombies and pod people rarely team up. Too easy to get confused.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-20, 10:12 PM
That's why zombies and pod people rarely team up. Too easy to get confused.
If the Pod People invade Earth, we could always use voudou to raise the dead and fight them. That would be a funny movie.

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-20, 10:27 PM
IIRC, in the original Night of the Living Dead and sequels, I think all the dead came back. (In the remake, I think the black guy came back even though he'd died from gunshots.) Whereas in the remake of Dawn (and most independent spinoffs), only those bitten by zombies came back.

So how about using a remote controlled exoskeleton to reanimate a dead person who died of non-bite-related causes? If my reasoning is sound, the existence of a non-undead walking dead person would cause all the undead living dead to die, in a process of reverse-non-homeopathy.

(Could this be the first ever zombie post that really belongs in Against The Mainstream?)

Noclevername
2007-Nov-20, 10:30 PM
IIRC, in the original Night of the Living Dead and sequels, I think all the dead came back. (In the remake, I think the black guy came back even though he'd died from gunshots.) Whereas in the remake of Dawn (and most independent spinoffs), only those bitten by zombies came back.

So how about using a remote controlled exoskeleton to reanimate a dead person who died of non-bite-related causes? If my reasoning is sound, the existence of a non-undead walking dead person would cause all the undead living dead to die, in a process of reverse-non-homeopathy.

(Could this be the first ever zombie post that really belongs in Against The Mainstream?)

If it was reverse-non-homeopothy, you'd have to spray zombies with water contining ultradilute non-undead corpses. (I'm thinking this whole conversation belongs in the "You know you're a nerd" thread. ;)

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-21, 08:36 AM
If it was reverse-non-homeopothy, you'd have to spray zombies with water contining ultradilute non-undead corpses. (I'm thinking this whole conversation belongs in the "You know you're a nerd" thread. ;)

The spray idea is a possibility, but it would only work in the context of an electric universe.

Speaking of which, here is my theory about the sun being a giant lightbulb and Mercury is a sort of battery, if you will, and...

[Cosmic censorship intervenes.]

Maksutov
2007-Nov-21, 08:44 AM
The spray idea is a possibility, but it would only work in the context of an electric universe.

Speaking of which, here is my theory about the sun being a giant lightbulb and Mercury is a sort of battery, if you will, and......And what about Venus?

Dudley
2007-Nov-21, 08:50 AM
I don't have a zombie plan, but after reading this thread, I'm wondering if I should start working on my moose plan.

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-21, 08:58 AM
And what about Venus?

It's a Comet. Ejected from Jupiter.

Comet, by the way, is the name of an electrical stall.

You see, it all falls into place!



I don't have a zombie plan, but after reading this thread, I'm wondering if I should start working on my moose plan.
Think ahead, that's what I always say.

Think ahead. (See what I mean?)

What's the plural of "moose"?

Maksutov
2007-Nov-21, 09:02 AM
I don't have a zombie plan, but after reading this thread, I'm wondering if I should start working on my moose plan.
Damn right you should!

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1455/bullwinklekz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hey Rock! Watch me pull a zombie out of my hat!

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/2434/trexheadtq3.th.jpg (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=trexheadtq3.jpg)

Whoops, wrong hat.

Moose
2007-Nov-21, 10:19 AM
What's the plural of "moose"?

Meese.

And Mak? That trick never works.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-21, 02:32 PM
Comet, by the way, is the name of an electrical stall.
Not to mention a spotlight.

Noclevername
2007-Nov-21, 03:13 PM
It's a Comet. Ejected from Jupiter.

Comet, by the way, is the name of an electrical stall.

You see, it all falls into place!


Well, it falls. I won't say into what.

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-21, 04:24 PM
Not to mention a spotlight.

A spotlight?

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-21, 04:30 PM
Well, it falls. I won't say into what.
Are you dissing my incoherent ramblings? The burden of proof is on YOU to prove me wrong when I said... er, whatever it was I said.

Anyway, about those zombies...

I saw 28 Weeks Later at the cinema when it was released, and found it a huge disappointment - discussed elsewhere. Has anyone who didn't see it at the cinema since seen it on DVD? If so, what did you think of it?

Van Rijn
2007-Nov-21, 11:49 PM
Anyway, about those zombies...

I saw 28 Weeks Later at the cinema when it was released, and found it a huge disappointment - discussed elsewhere. Has anyone who didn't see it at the cinema since seen it on DVD? If so, what did you think of it?

Funny you'd mention that. I saw it was available in Netflix recently and I remembered your review. I debated about whether to put it in my queue, but the other choices at the time seemed a bit weak, so I went ahead.

It was bad. For anyone who cares:

SPOILER WARNING!!!

I noticed the same issues as you, but there were some other points I didn't like, some technical, and some which just might be illusions of my own biases. For instance, the first time we see "international" troops, they all appear to be American, and we see them laughing while standing in a dead city. Now, I know people laugh, but that just seemed like a dig, as if Americans wouldn't be absolutely devastated if this had happened. It also appeared almost all of the Americans were complete morons, though that probably was required in order to advance the plot (if they had done anything right, there wouldn't be a story).

On to the technical:

Some of this goes back to issues with the prior movie: The infected seem to gush blood, but manage to survive for an amazingly long time. The virus seems to infect nearly instantly (far too fast for any physical process). The infected only go after the non-infected (pretty impressive genetic engineering for a "rage virus").

Back to this movie: Given the incredible effectiveness of the virus, I can't imagine that they would be so quick to bring more people in. If there was live virus anywhere and it got out, it obviously wouldn't take much to destroy the entire world's population. I'm sure there would be a massive blockade to keep terrorists or the power hungry away from the shores. But, if there were troops, they would no doubt have hazmat gear. There would certainly be regular drills for them and the civilians, to cover what would happen if there was a breakout. Of course, we didn't see any of that.

When they brought the infected woman back (which was crazy) it was even more ridiculous that there neither was a guard or even effective containment. It is absolutely insane that her husband could just walk in with his badge, and there wouldn't at least be sirens going off back at the control center.

Then, when he starts killing, at night, they respond by herding people together and turning out all the lights. I suppose that was supposed to increase the suspense, but obviously, the first thing you would do is turn on all the lights. Of course, you've already covered most of this, but it made me angry that they were herding people into a tight, unprotected underground area, closed the (useless) gates, walked away, and turned the lights out. I honestly don't know how much more ridiculous it could get than that.

That's about the point where I lost interest. I watched it in bits and pieces after that.

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-22, 08:02 AM
I honestly don't know how much more ridiculous it could get than that.
By just quoting this line, I don't have to worry about spoiler warnings.

But yes indeed. I am getting so fed up with moronic films and TV series in the SF/horror genre.

The one thing I was happy to overlook in the 28 Later series was the speed of the infection. It was dramatic, and the alternative would have been a retread of the "what do we do with our friends who have been bitten?" thing in the Romero films.

I agree with your other additional points.

But what am I doing calling it a series? 28 Days Later was a one-off film, very stylish, and original-feeling even if it was heavily inspired by Romero. 28 Weeks Later was a bad piece of fan fiction which does not count.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-22, 03:44 PM
A spotlight?
Yes, I do Stage Tech at school, and most of our spotlights are a make called the Comet.

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-22, 04:10 PM
Yes, I do Stage Tech at school, and most of our spotlights are a make called the Comet.

Not quite the answer I was hoping for. You said,


Not to mention a spotlight.

and I said,


A spotlight?

You were then supposed to say,


I told you not to mention a spotlight!

but either you didn't know or you chose not to.

1970s humour. Probably.

ETA Mind you, it fits the electric universe idea. Except that I'd forgotten about it.

KaiYeves
2007-Nov-23, 01:09 AM
I did not know, but that would have been very funny!

Noclevername
2007-Nov-23, 01:35 AM
If the Universe is electric, what happens if you trip over the cord?

Paul Beardsley
2007-Nov-23, 08:02 AM
If the Universe is electric, what happens if you trip over the cord?

I re-fuse to answer that.

(Sorry, I've just got up.)