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ToSeek
2003-Aug-05, 03:51 PM
"Phoenix" lander headed for Martian North Pole (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0308/04phoenix/)

Will land in 2008.

ToSeek
2003-Aug-05, 04:09 PM
Instead of a Martian airplane (http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=57926&ran=7241)

kucharek
2003-Aug-05, 04:18 PM
But they showed some good sense of humor to give it that name.
BTW, one of my all-time favourite movies is The Flight of the Phoenix (http://us.imdb.com/Details?0059183) :wink:

man on the moon
2003-Aug-06, 12:38 AM
yet another article (http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/08/05/offbeat.wedding.reut/index.html)

that airplane idea looked kind of neat, but i really liked the one that would go to Mars, get samples, then return to Earth. i think that would be the most useful thing after a landing rover.

another thought, what if they put a probe in the plane? one that would roll out after the three hundred mile flight? what an incredible amount of data that would provide!

BCstargazer1
2003-Aug-06, 12:57 AM
just saw different articles with artistic renditions...looks like another "polar Lander" Sad story in the making :( ... looks like an awfully smooth rendition of Mars terrain..and what's the deal with that landing gear ?? Didn't we learn anything from the past missions ?? perhaps we should #-o stick to the "Beachball" landing approach until we actually clear some landing pad. my overall impression of the projected mission is that is a step backward toward the Vikings lander than a chance to explore a bigger area than what the remote manipulator can reach from a lander that just sits there.
i hope that there will be some modifications before the 2007 target launch that could include maybe a mechanism that could launch little ballons carrying instruments when the winds are blowing in the direction that you'd want more data

Mellow
2003-Aug-06, 12:31 PM
Kucharek

Flight of the Phoenix, brilliant film, I never tire of watching.

I like the idea of low cost, scut missions but to go to the mars polar caps and not send a rover does seem a shame to me.

kucharek
2003-Aug-06, 12:37 PM
I have the impression some of you didn't read the articles completely. The mission is as it is because

The lander for Phoenix was built and being tested to fly as part of the 2001 Mars Surveyor Program, but the program was canceled after the Mars Polar Lander was lost upon landing near Mars' south pole in December 1999. Since then, the 2001 lander has been stored in a clean room at Lockheed Martin in Denver, managed by NASA's new Mars Exploration Program as a flight asset.