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AstroEd
2003-Aug-14, 02:35 AM
Wondering if it's Mars. I am currently in Singapore.

Basically there was this really bright object slightly below and to the right of the Moon. Would this be Mars? Or am i too early? If it isn't Mars.. then is there a satellite up there right now that's that close?

Any clarification would be most enlightening :D

AGN Fuel
2003-Aug-14, 02:54 AM
Wondering if it's Mars. I am currently in Singapore.

Basically there was this really bright object slightly below and to the right of the Moon. Would this be Mars? Or am i too early? If it isn't Mars.. then is there a satellite up there right now that's that close?

Any clarification would be most enlightening :D


Yes, the moon & Mars were only separated by a few degrees last night - would have been quite a sight (I had rain :cry: ).

Many satellites are visible to the naked eye, but they move across the sky in a matter of minutes.

Welcome to the board, by the way! :D

(edited to include greeting - how rude of me to have missed it! 8-[ )

Vermonter
2003-Aug-14, 03:27 AM
I was surprised to see Mars up in the sky so early (2227 when I saw it, EST). I didn't know if it was Mars, but the reddish color hinted at it. Starry Night saved the day, and I proudly showed my family Mars through my dinky 60mm refractor. I got a pic of it with my digital camera, waiting for the batts to recharge.

AstroEd
2003-Aug-14, 03:33 AM
Hi thanx for the welcome!

It was a cool sight indeed. The sky was clear with a full moon, no clouds and it helped that it just stopped raining. It was really bright (orangey in color). All with just my naked eye!

ToSeek
2003-Aug-14, 03:37 AM
Kind of like this (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=DaleR hodes&number=8), perhaps?

AstroEd
2003-Aug-14, 04:09 AM
Kind of like this (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=DaleR hodes&number=8), perhaps?

Wow.. nice... but there weren't any clouds at all, and from my side of the world, Mars appeared much closer to the Moon. Mebbe i should try taking a pic tonight... :D

The Bad Astronomer
2003-Aug-14, 05:31 AM
Kind of like this (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=DaleR hodes&number=8), perhaps?

That's funny. It's clearly a faked image. Seriously! The Moon's details wouldn't be that crisp if the clouds looked like that; the Moon would be overexposed. Looks like someone did some artful editing to get the shot "right". The fuzzy edge to the Moon must be an artifact of the image program used. Don't tell any of the Moon Hoax people! :roll:

eburacum45
2003-Aug-14, 05:40 AM
Watched it fade this morning; the sky got bluer and brighter till I couldn't see Mars anymore.

Mars is very bright, and I looked very carefully, but by the time the Sun came up it was completely invisible.

oh well.

gethen
2003-Aug-14, 01:51 PM
Spotted Mars and the moon at about the same time last night, shortly after moonrise I think because the moon was just as orange as Mars, due to the hazy atmosphere and high humidity here. It was a really gorgeous sight.

Hamlet
2003-Aug-14, 01:55 PM
Wondering if it's Mars. I am currently in Singapore.

Basically there was this really bright object slightly below and to the right of the Moon. Would this be Mars? Or am i too early? If it isn't Mars.. then is there a satellite up there right now that's that close?

Any clarification would be most enlightening :D

Yes. Mars was slightly below and to the right of the Moon last night. It was a gorgeous sight. This was our first clear night in 10 days! I was beginning to despair that I was not going to see it. There was a bit of haze in the air and it gave the moon a slightly orangish tint. I was so excited that I woke my wife up to come and see it. Fortunately, she as a good sense of humor about these things. :D

[Edited due to overexcitment about seeing Mars and not reading my post more carefully before submitting. :oops: ]

Normandy6644
2003-Aug-14, 01:56 PM
I finally saw it too last night. It had been too cloudy around here to see anything. It was up and bright next to the moon around 11:00PM or so. Great sight, polar cap and all.

kilopi
2003-Aug-14, 02:34 PM
Mars was slightly below and to the right of Mars last night.
Maybe that was Gemini. :)

Hamlet
2003-Aug-14, 02:42 PM
Mars was slightly below and to the right of Mars last night.
Maybe that was Gemini. :)

D'oh!!! #-o

Kaptain K
2003-Aug-14, 05:30 PM
Kind of like this (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=DaleR hodes&number=8), perhaps?

Wow.. nice... but there weren't any clouds at all, and from my side of the world, Mars appeared much closer to the Moon. Mebbe i should try taking a pic tonight... :D
Please note that they will not be nearly as close tonight. The Moon moves approximately 13 degrees/day against the sky. 8)

Vermonter
2003-Aug-14, 06:44 PM
http://www.geocities.com/tenchimod/MoonAndMars.JPG

My picture from last night. You can even see Planet X!

tracer
2003-Aug-15, 12:55 AM
http://www.geocities.com/tenchimod/MoonAndMars.JPG
"This page is not available.
We're sorry, but this page is currently unavailable for viewing."

Am I missing something here?

Charlie in Dayton
2003-Aug-15, 01:58 AM
http://www.geocities.com/tenchimod/MoonAndMars.JPG
"This page is not available.
We're sorry, but this page is currently unavailable for viewing."

Am I missing something here?

Yep. Picked up a tip on the Randi board tonite, and it works like a charm.

Geocities doesn't allow linking. Don't click on the link. Copy'n'paste the URL into the address bar of a new browser window. The site will show up then.

Just tried it with Vermonter's site. The above procedure works!

Vermonter
2003-Aug-15, 02:13 AM
That or r-clicking and "Save As..."

Like the pic? 2.1 megapixel Olympus. I wonder if it has a exposer setting...

Gsquare
2003-Aug-15, 02:20 AM
Kind of like this (http://www.wunderground.com/wximage/viewsingleimage.html?mode=singleimage&handle=DaleR hodes&number=8), perhaps?

That's funny. It's clearly a faked image. Seriously! The Moon's details wouldn't be that crisp if the clouds looked like that; the Moon would be overexposed. Looks like someone did some artful editing to get the shot "right". The fuzzy edge to the Moon must be an artifact of the image program used. Don't tell any of the Moon Hoax people! :roll:

That's not the least of it....Mars is in front of the clouds! It is getting close! #-o :lol: :wink:

G^2

DataCable
2003-Aug-15, 07:08 AM
I just happened to catch sight of it coming in from work Tuesday night (well, Wednesday morning... I get off work at Midnight) without even looking for it. I was walking in from my car, happened to glance up at the full Moon and noticed that extremely bright, faintly orange spot to the left, and actually uttered verbally: "Holy ****, is that Mars?"

I think I also caught a meteorite (visually, not physically 8)) earlier this evening as I was out stargazing before marsrise, with nothing much else to do during the blackout here in the NE US.

kilopi
2003-Aug-15, 09:34 AM
That's not the least of it....Mars is in front of the clouds!
That reminds me of a time we set up for an elementary school astronomy night, and the clouds moved in. Since my buddy had set up his large scope earlier, and had locked in on Saturn, people could see the rings in his scope, even though the entire sky was covered with clouds and we could not see Saturn naked-eye.

PS: I knew this sounded familiar (http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=2765&highlight=saturn+elementary#2 765).

Gsquare
2003-Aug-15, 03:47 PM
Very Interesting, Kilopi. Next time I need to eliminate planetary glare, I'll use the 'cloud filter' technique. :lol:

That reminds me yrs ago when I was using a 6" newt. for planetary observering.
We built (mounted) a blackened screen on the aperture with a 3.5 or 4'' hole cut concentrically in order to create a 'gradually' reduced aperture.

The purpose was to reduce planetary glare for easier acquisition of low magnitude moons at relatively close angular distances while still maintaining some of the full aperture capability. It worked.


It might be helpful for those earth-bounders still searching for Phobos. 8-[

G^2

digitalspector
2003-Aug-15, 04:15 PM
Yeah I got to see mars last night...was pretty bright compared to the moon ( was surprised because it was not that far from the moon). Still a splendid site.

quick question what do you suppose this would be?

it looked to me like mars, but not sure...it fades in from the left..and sets when the sun rises....

the camera is in norway...such a nice view from the webcam

http://weather.cs.uit.no/video/2003/08/20030815-medium.mpeg
(its 3 meg)

kilopi
2003-Aug-15, 04:32 PM
it looked to me like mars, but not sure...it fades in from the left..and sets when the sun rises....

the camera is in norway...such a nice view from the webcam

http://weather.cs.uit.no/video/2003/08/20030815-medium.mpeg
(its 3 meg)
I'm almost sure it's Mars. Hard to tell, what is the time range on the video?

It looks like the video is dated Today (20030815). Mars, being close to opposition (8/30) sets about as the Sun comes up. In the northern hemisphere, Mars appears low near the southern horizon, moving from east to west.

digitalspector
2003-Aug-15, 04:50 PM
kilopi the camera is in norway....so I am assuming the are using GMT time.....which I have a terrible time trying to grasp.
But I assume that it is from nightime tonight over there....correct?

Also "mars" is only seen in the video from the 15 and the 14th...before that I do not see...now I am not sure if the videos available are all the same timeframe (since I can not grasp UTC GMT time)

The video is timestamped in the lower left.

kilopi
2003-Aug-15, 04:51 PM
The video is timestamped in the lower left.
Doh!

PS: It appears to be Saturn. That video was taken at 70 degrees latitude--Mars barely gets five degrees above the horizon.

PSS: I was wrong. It was Mars. The timestamp is GMT, or else local daylight time--which appears to be the same thing.

digitalspector
2003-Aug-15, 04:52 PM
hehehe :lol:

digitalspector
2003-Aug-17, 10:55 PM
anyone know what this is...in the Norway video i posted?

looks like the same object in this gif

http://www.angelfire.com/moon/misty4/PX-Rising-Next-Day.gif

Im not trying to post PX bunk....but I cant figure out which planet this is rising....

It seen before the sun rises....and starry night isnt helpin me....

Anyone offer any info??????

kilopi
2003-Aug-18, 12:43 AM
anyone know what this is...in the Norway video i posted?
OK, I know I sounded indecisive, but it is Mars.


looks like the same object in this gif

http://www.angelfire.com/moon/misty4/PX-Rising-Next-Day.gif

Im not trying to post PX bunk....but I cant figure out which planet this is rising....

It seen before the sun rises....and starry night isnt helpin me....

Anyone offer any info??????
It's Venus, with Mercury below it. Starry Night has them both.

digitalspector
2003-Aug-18, 02:52 AM
kilopi ....i agree..but this is why starrynight confused me...the orbit of venus is lower then the object orbited

http://auction1.inetu.net/member/krippe/UCLA.jpg


*edited to show object's orbit....higher then venus's route...**

digitalspector
2003-Aug-18, 03:02 AM
kilopi ,

thank you so much for your replies, can i get sources for the Mars info????? I didnt think it possible to see mars "rise" before the sun

(remember i dont grasp GMT time to well)

specifics would be great.

kilopi
2003-Aug-18, 07:37 AM
..but this is why starrynight confused me...the orbit of venus is lower then the object orbited
No, I am the one that is confused. I misinterpreted some specks on the second video as stars, and I also didn't notice the name of the file.

I'm not sure what we're looking at there. Do you know exactly where the second video was taken? Is there an online original source for it?

digitalspector
2003-Aug-18, 12:27 PM
for the UCLA web cam? I dunno if their is an archive some where.

I was purely curious if anyone had any ideas concerning the bright object, because I can not label...and I wanted info to debunk them....


The naming of the file, I can not help...its not mine...but I have seen that video (not the same name) tossed around for a couple months and now I wanted to try to disprove it....but I can not figure out what object that is rising before the sun.

beskeptical
2003-Aug-19, 05:30 AM
A still picture from that clip was on the BB on another thread. I thought the comments were that the 1/4 moon blip below the 1/4 Moon was camera artifact. But that's a pretty hazy recollection. I'll try to find the thread if no one else does.

Speaking of Mars, when out watching the Perseids on the 12th and 13th I was totally amazed by the relative position changes of the Moon and Mars over three nights.

First night, Mars was to the left of the Moon when they both came up, second night Mars was well past the right side of the Moon, and just to check I looked on the 14th and Mars was a quarter of the way across the sky from the Moon when they came up. Amazing!

digitalspector
2003-Aug-19, 05:59 AM
beskept...you are correct

as i see it..the moon is a cresent overexposed..adn that clear cresent is the artifact...

alot of px'ers have been focusing on the 2 objects to the left of the moon about 9 o'clock...but i feel they are venus and mercury....shrug what do i know....