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Myopia18
2008-Apr-03, 10:37 AM
Is it real and are we going to die in 2012?

Myopia18
2008-Apr-03, 10:40 AM
are we going to die in 2012?

Steve Limpus
2008-Apr-03, 10:42 AM
Unfortunately, lots of people will die in 2012.

And in 2013.

I hope, no one we know.

EDIT: Ok, yes a little pedantic (Casus and Tog)... but just a little humuorous too? Sorry Myopia18, maybe you really are worried by this. You have access to the internet, so there is an absolute ton of great stuff for you to discover about this amazing universe of ours, just be careful who you let bring worry and unhappiness in to your life. This niburu stuff truly is absolute ********. And I really do hope you have a great 2012.

Tedward
2008-Apr-03, 10:52 AM
I propose that all the people that support doom and gloom from this "event" cede all in their power and property and money to me from the expected date in 2012. OK, being greedy. Give half to me and half to various charities.

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 10:54 AM
Is it real and are we going to die in 2012?

Nope.

Fearmongers and doomsdayers have been predicting end times since... Well.. The beginning times.

For all descriptions of Planet X etc, it would be very visible.

In addition to not seeing anything like that, in infrared, or otherwise, we do not see its Gravitational Effect either.

Now, 20 years ago you might have been able to make a case. (Ok, not really but I'm being nice...) But now, in 2008 with 2012 only a few years away, there's no way we could miss something that big this close.
I say close because for the time limit- it would need to be pretty close to Earth to reach us by 2012.
Yet we have no trouble spotting Pluto or Eris or countless other tiny objects that are much further away.

You can start here (http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/), and if he hasn't by the time I've finished this post, 01100101 will undoubtedly produce this absurdly long list of threads related to the Niburu/Planet X nonsense.

ETA: YOu will note that it says 2003. That is because planet X was supposed to kill us all in 2003. Nothing happened of course.
So they extended it to 2012- especially relying on a misconception about how the Mayan calender works ( It rolls over in 2012 just like every other calender rolls over at some point). I wonder what they will say in 2012 when nothing happens?

Myopia18
2008-Apr-03, 10:56 AM
Please don't be sarcastic with your answers as I am worried about this. It would help if you provide proof. Thanks.

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 10:59 AM
Myopia18,
Why have you started three threads on this topic in two different subforums?:neutral:

Tog
2008-Apr-03, 11:08 AM
Please don't be sarcastic with your answers as I am worried about this. It would help if you provide proof. Thanks.
in a different thread.

It's not sarcasm, it pedantry:p. People will die in 2012, and before, and after. Planet X will have nothing to do with any of it. There is no reason to be worried about this, because if it were out there, it could be seen by now. Probably naked eye.

As for proof, how could it be proven? Is there a way to "prove" that the helicopter from the hospital across the street won't fall out of the sky and through my roof next Thursday around lunch? Nope.

The only thing that we can do to "prove" it won't happen is provide evidence that the existence of the thing is so remote as to be a fantasy. Think of it in the same light as heading to the airport tomorrow and catching a dragon to Mars. You cant say for sure that it won't happen, but I'd be willing to bet a kidney that it doesn't. And if Planet X does show up in 2012 and destroys the Earth, that kidney is all yours.

Casus_belli
2008-Apr-03, 11:10 AM
Unfortunately, lots of people will die in 2012.

And in 2013.

I hope, no one we know.

But none of these deaths will be attributable to "Planet X/Nibiru"

We know of 8 planets in our solar system (9 if you count Pluto) Not one of these planets has caused a single death on Earth throughout history. Why would a more distant and probably smaller planet that has never been seen cause mayhem?

I bet you a million dollars that you wont die due to any direct effect from "Planet X"

Soothsayers have predicted the end of the world since the dawn of human civilisation. So far they are pitching a perfect no-hitter.

antoniseb
2008-Apr-03, 11:15 AM
Myopia18,

You have posted the same question in three subforums. This is bad forum behavior, but as you are very new, we will just give you advice, and not warn you against doing it in the future.

I suggest that you look around the forum, we do have a lot of material in several threads specifically on the 2012 topic. Science rarely gives proof, but the evidence against the end is very strong, and the evidence for the end is non-existent.

Casus_belli
2008-Apr-03, 11:15 AM
I predict that the "planet X" effect will cause this thread to veer off into the "zone of doom"*




*Better known as the ATM section

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 11:21 AM
I bet you a million dollars that you wont die due to any direct effect from "Planet X"


That's all? A million?!

Sheesh...

Tog_ bet a Kidney.http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/33.gif

Casus_belli
2008-Apr-03, 11:24 AM
Ok I see his kidney and raise him a spleen.

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 11:28 AM
At this rate, we can make haggis.

Casus_belli
2008-Apr-03, 11:32 AM
At this rate, we can make haggis.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Some people would prefer the end of the world to haggis.

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 11:35 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Some people would prefer the end of the world to haggis.

I say bring 'em both onhttp://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/70.gif

Dinner and a show.

Steve Limpus
2008-Apr-03, 11:58 AM
Unfortunately, lots of people will die in 2012.

And in 2013.

I hope, no one we know.

EDIT: Ok, yes a little pedantic (Casus and Tog)... but just a little humuorous too? Sorry Myopia18, maybe you really are worried by this. You have access to the internet, so there is an absolute ton of great stuff for you to discover about this amazing universe of ours, just be careful who you let bring worry and unhappiness in to your life. This niburu stuff truly is absolute ********. And I really do hope you have a great 2012.

See above. :silenced:

Tog
2008-Apr-03, 12:08 PM
EDIT: Ok, yes a little pedantic (Casus and Tog)... but just a little humuorous too?

Oh, yeah. My response was basically the same, then I had some sort of connection issue and lost it. By the time I got back in, yours was up. Not really picking on you for it, just being pedantic myself in pointing out that it wasn't sarcasm.:p

The way the original question set aside the "will we all die in 2012?" part as being separate from the "Is planet X real?" just couldn't be passed up, really.

HenrikOlsen
2008-Apr-03, 12:14 PM
At this rate, we can make haggis.
Hmmm, no.
Hearts and lungs, not kidneys and spleens.

BTW, I merged all three threads as there's no reason to tempt 10010110 to post his list more than once.

Jason Thompson
2008-Apr-03, 12:17 PM
Don't feed the troll. This is almost certainly the same 'myopia' who asks this same question multiple times per day over on Yahoo! Answers.

Myopia, you have had your question answered in very conceivable way. If you have a problem with the answers given then rephrase your question to deal with specifics. Otherwise stop wasting people's time.

Neverfly
2008-Apr-03, 12:17 PM
Hmmm, no.
Hearts and lungs, not kidneys and spleens.

BTW, I merged all three threads as there's no reason to tempt 10010110 to post his list more than once.

Yeah.. Pluck..

But I figured if they can make vegetarian Haggis I should be allowed some organ leeway...

Tog
2008-Apr-03, 12:18 PM
Ok I see his kidney and raise him a spleen.
I see your spleen, ands raise an eyebrow. 'Cause-- you know, I really shouldn't be able to see that from here. You need to have that looked at or something.

Casus_belli
2008-Apr-03, 12:27 PM
Myopia18 our replies are, I'm afraid, caused by having to refute a constant stream of threads exactly like your own. Do a search on these forums for "Planet X/Nibiru" and you will see why.

There is absolutely nothing to worry about. 2012 will come and go and then somebody will do a "recalculation of the "evidence"", and post on the internet that the real date of doom is 2021. And once again these forums will be full of scared people asking if its true.

I've lived through hundreds of these "end of the world" scares and both you and I will live through hundreds more. Go enjoy life.

01101001
2008-Apr-03, 12:33 PM
You can start here (http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/planetx/), and if he hasn't by the time I've finished this post, 01100101 will undoubtedly produce this absurdly long list of threads related to the Niburu/Planet X nonsense.

I was sleeping and I forgot to turn on the robot.


2003 no, 2012 si (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=03179)
2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=03181)
End of Mayan Calendar (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=04509)
Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=07145)
2012 alignment question (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=09421)
about the Mayan 2012 item (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10214)
2012 Debunking? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10724)
Possible asteroid impact in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10924)
2012 asteroid? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=13592)
We don't have to worry about 2012! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=16490)
More on 2012 from India Daily (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=16709)
2012 Completion of conspiracy? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=17667)
Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18322)
crop circles, Planet X and 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18375)
Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18378)
According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18757)
More 2012 Nonsense (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=19201)
NEO 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=20191)
Dangerous NEO in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=20539)
Christmas 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=23941)
2012 mayan calender end of world (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=30892)
Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=31452)
New 2012 threat? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=32413)
2012 look at this thing on the sun (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=35462)
Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=38978)
Pole shift idea origins (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=43775)
Dec 20 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=46117)
2012 Stuff (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=51021)
Horizon Project-New End of World Scare? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53788)
Date: December 21st 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53831)
Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53904)
2012: What do you think well happen (if anything) (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53924)
So what will we see in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=54404)
Galactic Tsunami? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=54418)
Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=55312)
Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=55386)
2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=56513)
Any truth to this? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=58039)
How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=63109)
the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=63449)
Planet X Official Advertisement (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=65831)
What year are we in (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66055)
Quick question about the sun (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66221)
Galactic Alignment (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66414)
Books of 2012! - (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67663)
2007 = 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67908)
Return of Planet X By Rand (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67948)
Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder. (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67954)
Toutatis 4179: 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68472)
Galactic Alignment in 2012 ? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68661)
Solar Storms (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68907)
A real prediction! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=69448)
NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70163)
2012 Galactic Alignment (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70260)
Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~ (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70438)
New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70795)
this may be a silly question but... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71061)
Just to know if this is true (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71216)
Just Wondering... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71633)
Planet X/Nibiru, is it real? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=72398)


Not so long. I welcome the 60th topic to the list.

Steve Limpus
2008-Apr-03, 12:39 PM
:) I think I'm gonna go on vacation 2012. The whole year.

antoniseb
2008-Apr-03, 01:12 PM
I've closed this thread, and banned the troll.