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BrentArsement
2008-May-26, 04:55 PM
What exactly is the detail of this eclipse of the Galactic plane? The orbital calculation says we eclipse this point every 28,600 years? Does anyone know the details?
Brent.

01101001
2008-May-26, 05:16 PM
Hello. Welcome to BAUT.

I'm 01101001 and I'm here to help.

But hang on for a minute while I rustle up some links...

Edit: I'm back. I have a collection of links to 2012-related topics in BAUT Forum that probably include some that address your particular concern about 2012. (And, I'm pleased to announce the expansion of the list to include some links to some parent-sites Universe Today and Bad Astronomy Blog articles debunking aspects of some 2012 predictions. More are welcome any time.)

Sorry, answers to your specific inquiry about galactic-plane eclipsing might take a while to find in this list because there are so many aspects to 2012 predictions. Top of my head, it's not gonna happen, unless your definition of galactic-plane eclipsing is so mundane that it will happen not only in 2012, but in every year. But, details are in here somewhere:


2003 no, 2012 si (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=03179)
2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=03181)
End of Mayan Calendar (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=04509)
Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=07145)
2012 alignment question (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=09421)
about the Mayan 2012 item (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10214)
2012 Debunking? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10724)
Possible asteroid impact in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=10924)
2012 asteroid? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=13592)
We don't have to worry about 2012! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=16490)
More on 2012 from India Daily (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=16709)
2012 Completion of conspiracy? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=17667)
Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18322)
crop circles, Planet X and 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18375)
Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18378)
According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=18757)
More 2012 Nonsense (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=19201)
NEO 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=20191)
Dangerous NEO in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=20539)
Christmas 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=23941)
2012 mayan calender end of world (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=30892)
Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=31452)
New 2012 threat? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=32413)
2012 look at this thing on the sun (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=35462)
Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=38978)
Pole shift idea origins (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=43775)
Dec 20 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=46117)
2012 Stuff (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=51021)
Horizon Project-New End of World Scare? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53788)
Date: December 21st 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53831)
Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53904)
2012: What do you think well happen (if anything) (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=53924)
So what will we see in 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=54404)
Galactic Tsunami? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=54418)
Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=55312)
Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=55386)
2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=56513)
Any truth to this? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=58039)
How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=63109)
the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=63449)
Planet X Official Advertisement (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=65831)
What year are we in (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66055)
Quick question about the sun (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66221)
Galactic Alignment (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=66414)
Books of 2012! - (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67663)
2007 = 2012 (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67908)
Return of Planet X By Rand (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67948)
Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder. (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=67954)
Toutatis 4179: 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68472)
Galactic Alignment in 2012 ? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68661)
Solar Storms (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=68907)
A real prediction! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=69448)
NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70163)
2012 Galactic Alignment (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70260)
Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~ (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70438)
New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!! (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=70795)
this may be a silly question but... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71061)
Just to know if this is true (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71216)
Just Wondering... (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=71633)
Planet X/Nibiru, is it real? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=72398)
Youv heard this a million times. (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=72777)
Nibaru or Planet X (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=73180)
Mayan calendar (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=73414)
2012 Article? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=73492)
can i say something please on planet x (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=73579)
Nibiru (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=73654)
The growing earth.... :P (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=74164)
Our Solar System's Eclipse of the Galactic Plane on Dec 21, 2012? (http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php?t=74615)
Universe Today: No Doomsday in 2012 (http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/19/no-doomsday-in-2012/)
Bad Astronomy Blog: 2012, the year nothing will happen (http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/05/19/2012-the-year-nothing-will-happen/)
Universe Today: 2012: No Planet X (http://www.universetoday.com/2008/05/25/2012-no-planet-x/)

eburacum45
2008-May-26, 05:52 PM
What you should take away from reading some, or all of those links is that the closest alignment happened some time ago, in 1998 or 1999, so the 2012 date is astronomically insignificant.

grant hutchison
2008-May-26, 06:07 PM
What exactly is the detail of this eclipse of the Galactic plane? The orbital calculation says we eclipse this point every 28,600 years? Does anyone know the details?
Brent.It so happens that, at the Sun's present location in the galaxy, the plane of the solar system aligns approximately with the galactic centre. I have a picture of that here (http://www.ghutchison.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/orbits/galaxy.jpg), with the planetary orbits in blue, the galaxy spanning the image horizontally, the galactic centre in the middle of the view, and the Sun's orbital motion around the galaxy directed pretty much leftwards.
So, once a year, the Earth can get to position in its orbit in which the Sun lies approximately between the Earth and the galactic centre. That happens around the December equinox. It's been happening around the December equinox for years, and will continue to do so for years. The closest alignment was several years ago.
Since the equinoxes precess with a period of 25,800 years, that the period at which this situation repeats itself. So in 12,900 years, we'll be seeing the same approximate alignment happening around the June equinox.

Grant Hutchison

novaderrik
2008-May-26, 06:53 PM
on the day before this "eclipse", i suggest that everyone go running thru the streets while flailing their arms in a crazy fashion and screaming about how it's the end of the world, so everyone might as well just give you all their money and possessions.

KaiYeves
2008-May-26, 06:58 PM
Yup, Binary Guy doesn't miss a beat.

ignoranceoceanatom
2009-Aug-21, 05:43 PM
How could you notice the differance ?

Swift
2009-Aug-21, 09:07 PM
How could you notice the differance ?
ignoranceoceanatom,
Who are you addressing that question to? This thread is over a year old, I don't think anyone is paying much attention to it. And what "difference" are you talking about?

mantiss
2009-Aug-22, 02:24 AM
on the day before this "eclipse", i suggest that everyone go running thru the streets while flailing their arms in a crazy fashion and screaming about how it's the end of the world, so everyone might as well just give you all their money and possessions.

I've kindly setup a Paypal account to accept all donations ;)

BrentArsement
2009-Aug-22, 04:33 PM
Thought I was in trouble......or having a flashback......or something. Seems like I remember the night I started this thread....a looooong time ago.

mantiss, my Paypal account is still at $0.00.:cry: Don't spend it before you get it.

Kristophe
2009-Aug-22, 07:58 PM
Well, it was a happy necro for me. I've been fielding a lot of questions regarding the "galactic alignment" this summer from visitors at work - I'm a projectionist at the local planetarium - and now I can add "The closest alignment was actually about a decade ago" to my list of reasons for people to calm down and go about their lives.

BrentArsement
2009-Aug-23, 01:49 PM
My brother Kristhophe, a recent thread created on 11 Aug with ending comments of 19 Aug, suggest that we are not completely able to measure the specific location with enough time-variance to know exactly where we are. We can measure its location....but the +/- margin of the formula ain't within a decade or two.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter......us humans aren't here to figure out certain mathmatical locations. Me, myself, and I prefer to focus on puppies and children and Wife-woman and gardening and my momma. Physically speaking, this particular location within our Milky Way is cool to think about. Interesting things, physics that is, occur at this location. If we've reached it a thousand, hundred thousand, million, blablablabla, years ago, I wonder what Earth physics stuff, if any, occured.

Where is your location. I just spent a couple weeks with my three younglins and Wife-woman in the Upper, Middle and Lower Rocky Mountains. We would love to plan a trip to a Galactic Observation spot.

PS. Ain't is a word.:shifty:

novaderrik
2009-Aug-24, 09:29 AM
Well, it was a happy necro for me. I've been fielding a lot of questions regarding the "galactic alignment" this summer from visitors at work - I'm a projectionist at the local planetarium - and now I can add "The closest alignment was actually about a decade ago" to my list of reasons for people to calm down and go about their lives.

but it might take a while for the magnetic forces to affect the earth, since the galaxy is, like, hundred of miles across and stuff.

Cougar
2009-Aug-24, 04:06 PM
...since the galaxy is, like, hundred of miles across and stuff.

At least!