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DeathFromAbove
2003-Oct-01, 08:20 PM
I go to other forums and made a thread about this conspiracy theory one of the people their asked if Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon then just who was taping it? I'm pretty sure this is a very easy question to answer but I unfortunately do not know the answer. Oh and this same person used the flag waving argument. I kindly gave her a certain link to a very good article about this.

devil's advocate
2003-Oct-01, 08:31 PM
I remember reading somewhere that the LEM had a camera mounted on the leg. this is where the video of Armstrong descending came from. Is this what you mean?

Let me do some research and I'll post again.

Andrew
2003-Oct-01, 08:36 PM
Armstrong deployed an equipment pallet called the MESA in quadrant IV (http://www.myspacemuseum.com/quads1b.gif) of the LM's descent stage whilst on the "porch." The camera was in this pallet and was then facing him.

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/g-mesa1.gif

http://www.myspacemuseum.com/g-mesa2.gif

Visitor
2003-Oct-01, 08:41 PM
For a description look here:
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/First_Man.htm

devil's advocate
2003-Oct-01, 09:47 PM
Thanks for beating me to the punch! Research isn't one of my strong points.

JayUtah mentions this, too in his Clavius sight. He also mentions why people bring this up in the first place.

http://www.clavius.org/mesacam.html

DeathFromAbove
2003-Oct-01, 10:45 PM
Thanks guys. A bit offtopic but on another forum where I posed the question if people believed the Lunar landing was fake someone brought up the whole Radiation belt. A quick quote from the site took care of that. I have to say Phil's site is just perfect for squashing the conspiricy.

Jason Thompson
2003-Oct-02, 01:27 AM
>>one of the people their asked if Neil Armstrong was the first man on the moon then just who was taping it?<<

Did you ask this person why he seems to believe that a camera requires a person standing behind it to work? :)

Does he also want to know who was sitting on the outside of the rocket during staging to get that lovely shot of the ring detaching, or who was left on the moon to film the LM ascents from the missions with Rovers?

JayUtah
2003-Oct-02, 12:50 PM
... or who took the surveillance video of the robberies in "World's Dumbest Criminals"?

Astronot
2003-Oct-02, 01:20 PM
Does he also want to know who was sitting on the outside of the rocket during staging to get that lovely shot of the ring detaching, or who was left on the moon to film the LM ascents from the missions with Rovers?

That guy must be one brave camera opreator. And imagine, one person to have taken all those dangerious shots. :lol:

aporetic_r
2003-Oct-02, 02:14 PM
That guy must also think that the US has landed humans on Mars, so they could follow around that Sojourner probe for a few weeks.

Aporetic

NASA Fan
2003-Oct-03, 04:28 AM
Wait, are you saying that there was not someone following the Mars rovers? Do you really expect me to believe that it was the little green Martians who filmed it? I refuse to believe that, everyone knows that they are horriable at filming--it had to be the little purple Martians-they are the film experts. :lol:

Mig
2003-Oct-03, 06:25 AM
Being new here, I would just like to add my dos pesos in regard to this type of situation. If you listen to these people questioning the lunar landings, you can tend to be swayed. I don't think it is a commentary on your intelligence to find yourself wondering "is that right?". It just means that you have to do some homework. Most of us, even if interested in space flight, are not fluent in the particulars of the process. We simply don't know enough, and it isn't until we are confronted with the gaps in our knowledge that it even occurs to us. I've been lurking here for quite some time now, and I must say that this board has been a godsend. I would like to particularly single out JayUtah's exemplary work here, and on his own site. Thank you very much, Sir. I truly do appreciate it. =D>

JayUtah
2003-Oct-03, 03:21 PM
It just means that you have to do some homework.

Some people were never very good at homework and so when confronted with apparent gaps in their knowledge they just pretend the problem isn't as complicated as they thought it was. Lots of people rely on "common sense" to get them through even complex problems.

I would like to particularly single out JayUtah's exemplary work here, and on his own site. Thank you very much, Sir. I truly do appreciate it.

Thank you for the vote of confidence.