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Abbadon_2008
2008-Aug-19, 04:12 PM
I've been hearing a lot about advances in robotics that bring us ever closer to the age of androids.

Well, I'm not applauding that! Nope. I don't want machines that look like me. It's too creepy.

If I want or need a robot, then I want something that looks decidedly machine-like.

I want a 'bot that closely resembles a Shop-Vac. A bit smarter, but not by much.

http://img210.imagevenue.com/loc136/th_60936_ShopVac1_123_136lo.jpg (http://img210.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=60936_ShopVac1_123_136lo.jpg)

I grew up on 'droids lke R2-D2...

http://img44.imagevenue.com/loc826/th_62034_r2d2_123_826lo.jpg (http://img44.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62034_r2d2_123_826lo.jpg)

and the workbots - Huie, Luie, and Duie - from 'Silent Running'.





http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc184/th_62285_luie_123_184lo.jpg (http://img159.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62285_luie_123_184lo.jpg)http://img225.imagevenue.com/loc532/th_62352_planting_123_532lo.jpg (http://img225.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62352_planting_123_532lo.jpg) http://img130.imagevenue.com/loc1126/th_62390_untitled_123_1126lo.jpg (http://img130.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=62390_untitled_123_1126lo.jpg) http://img217.imagevenue.com/loc413/th_62490_silent-running_123_413lo.jpg


That's what I want. Does that make me a technophobe? I just want a machine that works for me, not one that looks like me. Surely, I'm not alone in this.:lol:

HenrikOlsen
2008-Aug-19, 04:26 PM
Incidentally, did you know how they made those robots in Silent Running walk like they do?

They had a person with no legs who used the arms and hands to walk on in each.:)

01101001
2008-Aug-19, 04:26 PM
Android? That's mobile-device software (http://code.google.com/android/what-is-android.html). You mean in the olden days android used to mean some kind of machine? Cool.

Ilya
2008-Aug-19, 07:35 PM
I just want a machine that works for me, not one that looks like me. Surely, I'm not alone in this.:lol:

We are in complete agreement. Form should follow function. Although some functions require android form:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0441015948/ref=sib_dp_pt#reader-link

jokergirl
2008-Aug-19, 07:56 PM
Androids? Bah, useless.
Give me an insectoid any time.

*pats her little roomba* Simple, easy stackable programming, that's where it's at. Trying to emulate something from the top down is just useless.

(claims the geek whose favourite movie is Blade Runner)

;)

KaiYeves
2008-Aug-19, 08:00 PM
I keep bugging my mom to get a Roomba but she won't listen.

However, deep in my heart, I do believe that Roomba will come and deliver me from cleaning chores. Someday.

Abbadon_2008
2008-Aug-19, 08:02 PM
I could adapt to clones. Finding a Grace Park/Boomer Unit under my tree on Christmas Day would be OK.

But no fembots! Or 'him' 'bots, either!

Roomba??? What the...:confused:

(dashes to Google)

OMG!!!!

How did i miss this? Household 'bots?

Well, I'll just add the hoover-bot to my wishlist.:lol:

Ilya
2008-Aug-19, 09:01 PM
I keep bugging my mom to get a Roomba but she won't listen.

However, deep in my heart, I do believe that Roomba will come and deliver me from cleaning chores. Someday.

AFAIK, Roomba does not do a very good job vacuuming the floor. Main advantage is that you don't have to do it yourself.

So I understand both yours and you Mom's point of view :D

Ronald Brak
2008-Aug-20, 12:07 AM
No androids? Yes, well, I'm afraid the only way humanoid robots won't be built will be if virtual reality gets there first and provides people with friends they can play with. Otherwise expect a lot of humanoid robots to be built on either side of uncanny valley.

In the future humans will interact with each other as a hobby or fetish, rather like some people spend time making candles or carving wood nowadays. This will simply be because machines will be better at providing humans with social interaction than other humans. No one will think it strange anymore that we think it strange to use a manchine to calculate our taxes. People who insist on using only real humans for social interaction will be regarded much as the Amish are regarded today. Behind the times with difficult lives.

Nadme
2008-Aug-20, 12:01 PM
I just want a machine that works for me, not one that looks like me. Surely, I'm not alone in this. :lol:

I don't want a machine that looks like me either. I want one that looks like Hayden Christensen. :D

Jim
2008-Aug-20, 01:24 PM
I don't want a machine that looks like me either. I want one that looks like Hayden Christensen. :D

Summer Glau.

jokergirl
2008-Aug-20, 01:38 PM
AFAIK, Roomba does not do a very good job vacuuming the floor. Main advantage is that you don't have to do it yourself.

So I understand both yours and you Mom's point of view :D

It does a good enough job for me (and it's fast and ADORABLE to look at!). I turn it on most days when leave the house, so it never gets very dusty to begin with.
If you want one that has mapping capabilities and makes sure to get the whole room (not just probably the whole room) get an Electrolux whatsitsname (trilobite?) instead. That one leaves a line along edges though, I'm told, as it isn't allowed to bonk into anything.

And the not-doing-it-myself advantage is a big enough one for me. Especially since it can run while I'm away - no annoying noise for me!
Oh - and it has a developer's kit. :D

;)

Abbadon_2008
2008-Aug-20, 01:43 PM
The Roomba has mixed reviews. But the newer versions seem to be much better.

I'm seriously thinking about getting one for me mum. She's getting on in years, and could use one. And my preschool nephews would freak out ver the new 'pet'.

I'm stoked that I can go on Amazon.com and order a robot!:lol:

But I reckon they're more reputable and less volatile than Jawas.:whistle:

jokergirl
2008-Aug-20, 01:57 PM
The series 5 version is definitely better - my BF's mum has one and it seems to have no problem keeping up with 4 shedding golden retrievers so far :)
I preferred the melody-only communication of the old to the spoken instructions the new one has, but that's geeky me. (The "normal user" population will probably prefer a non-r2d2 mode...)

If it would speak of itself in first person and with a cute synthesised voice (http://www.vocaloid.com/) it'd fit better...

;)