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2009-Jul-29, 03:41 PM

I have been attempting to rewrite the laws of physics using only invariants that work for any theory ascribed to it, whether Relativity, ballistic, that of an ether, or otherwise. In the course of doing so, when starting to change from one dimensional to two dimensional, I ran into a conceptual problem that I don't quite see how to apply yet in a normal fashion, that is, by using straight lines to determine how objects will travel inertially. It seems it could be a problem with ballistic and Relativity theory alike, or perhaps that of simultaneity, but probably just my conceptualization.

Let's say we have two observers that are passing each other, with some distance between their perspective paths, perpendicularly to their line of travel. At some point in space observer A emits electrons that travel directly toward where observer B will be such that they will be received in regular intervals. That is, observer B will receive one electron, then another one second later, say, then another one second after that, etc, as observer B continues to travel inertially along a stragiht line path.

Here's the dilemma. Observer A emits these electrons all at once, from a single point in space, so that both observers should agree that all of the electrons have been emitted from a single point in space. From observer A's perspective, if the electrons are emitted when observer B is approaching, then the electrons emitted more directly toward observer B will travel faster and those emitted that are to be received after observer B passes will travel more slowly. Observer B is to receive one photon per interval forever. So here's the thing. Let's say B is in a spherical ship, although that shape may flatten out somewhat according to Relativity from A's perspective but that doesn't matter much. According to A, as the electrons reach B, aimed directly at the center of the ship, they will strike first more toward the forward side of the ship on the hull and then as B passes, they will strike more toward the back. So that should be the case as B sees things also, although the angles of impact will be slightly different according to Relativity for each observer. According to B, however, B considers himself stationary, and all of the electrons were emitted at the same time from a single point in space, so should travel in a straight line from that point in space where A emitted them to B, but just at different speeds, and strike in the same place on the hull of the ship forever. The only way I can see that this would occur differently so far is if B is rotating while the rotation slows, or B does not see all of the electrons travel in a straight line from a single point in space, or does not see all of the electrons emitted at once from the same point in space somehow, or all of the above, or something else. So what am I missing?

Let's say we have two observers that are passing each other, with some distance between their perspective paths, perpendicularly to their line of travel. At some point in space observer A emits electrons that travel directly toward where observer B will be such that they will be received in regular intervals. That is, observer B will receive one electron, then another one second later, say, then another one second after that, etc, as observer B continues to travel inertially along a stragiht line path.

Here's the dilemma. Observer A emits these electrons all at once, from a single point in space, so that both observers should agree that all of the electrons have been emitted from a single point in space. From observer A's perspective, if the electrons are emitted when observer B is approaching, then the electrons emitted more directly toward observer B will travel faster and those emitted that are to be received after observer B passes will travel more slowly. Observer B is to receive one photon per interval forever. So here's the thing. Let's say B is in a spherical ship, although that shape may flatten out somewhat according to Relativity from A's perspective but that doesn't matter much. According to A, as the electrons reach B, aimed directly at the center of the ship, they will strike first more toward the forward side of the ship on the hull and then as B passes, they will strike more toward the back. So that should be the case as B sees things also, although the angles of impact will be slightly different according to Relativity for each observer. According to B, however, B considers himself stationary, and all of the electrons were emitted at the same time from a single point in space, so should travel in a straight line from that point in space where A emitted them to B, but just at different speeds, and strike in the same place on the hull of the ship forever. The only way I can see that this would occur differently so far is if B is rotating while the rotation slows, or B does not see all of the electrons travel in a straight line from a single point in space, or does not see all of the electrons emitted at once from the same point in space somehow, or all of the above, or something else. So what am I missing?