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Swift
2009-Jul-31, 02:57 PM
Well, no time like the landing of 127 to look forward to 128.

NASA.gov STS-128 webpage (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)

Discovery is carrying the Leonardo Multi-Purpose Logistics Module containing life support racks and science racks. The Lightweight Multi-Purpose Experiment Support Structure Carrier will also be launched in Discovery's payload bay.

This is Discovery's 37th mission to space and the 30th mission of a space shuttle dedicated to the assembly and maintenance of the International Space Station.

Launch Target:
1:36 a.m. EDT - Aug. 25, 2009

Merlin5
2009-Jul-31, 03:06 PM
I wonder what's the deciding factor that determines a night time launch instead of normal daytime launch.

Glom
2009-Jul-31, 05:33 PM
Didn't Kopra just get put up there this mission? What's he doing coming down already?

BetaDust
2009-Jul-31, 06:08 PM
I don't know how to put it, but somehow...

0110's, linkfarm is missing. ;)

01101001
2009-Aug-01, 02:12 AM
0110's, linkfarm is missing. ;)

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-128/thum/sts128-s-001.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-128/html/sts128-s-001.html)

Space Shuttle Discovery

Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)


The primary payload will be the Multi-Purpose Logistics Module Leonardo. The mission is scheduled to include three spacewalks to remove and replace a materials processing experiment outside ESA's Columbus module and return an empty ammonia tank assembly.

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

23 days to launch

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

[Note: Some links may not yet be functioning.]

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-01, 08:09 PM
Nice patch!

slang
2009-Aug-01, 11:17 PM
0110's, linkfarm is missing. ;)

On a first name basis, are we? Or is that Least Significant Nibble Basis? :)

mahesh
2009-Aug-02, 10:15 AM
Nice patch!

HAR! HAR!

I just had a look...expecting another lovely NASA emblem....

Good One! no pun intended
And what a lovely morning too. Cloudless skies. Beautiful.

Glom
2009-Aug-02, 01:04 PM
Nice patch!

It must be tough to keep coming up with patches for missions that are really quite alike.

01101001
2009-Aug-02, 02:45 PM
It must be tough to keep coming up with patches for missions that are really quite alike.

Check out STS 129's:

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-129/thum/sts129-s-001.jpg (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-129/html/sts129-s-001.html)

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-02, 09:29 PM
And yet each one is so beautiful!

01101001
2009-Aug-13, 05:36 AM
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)


The Shuttle Program concluded its Flight Readiness Review. Moving toward agency's FRR Tuesday when official launch date will be set.

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

12 days to launch

Glom
2009-Aug-13, 07:11 AM
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)



Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

12 days to launch

12 days? That's not a bad turnaround. When did STS 127 land? Only a couple of weeks ago, wasn't it?

Swift
2009-Aug-13, 01:02 PM
12 days? That's not a bad turnaround. When did STS 127 land? Only a couple of weeks ago, wasn't it?
The day of the first post in this thread - July 31

mahesh
2009-Aug-15, 09:06 PM
Nice interviews at NASA, on just now on NASA TV.
Interviewing / conversing with the STS 128 crew.
Forrester, Stott and now Fuglesang (the usual lovely lilting accent of Swedes)....

01101001
2009-Aug-19, 05:36 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


After a lengthy technical discussion, NASA managers decided Tuesday the shuttle Discovery's external tank can be safely flown as is, without the need for additional time-consuming inspections of its foam insulation, clearing the way for launch next week on a space station resupply mission. The executive-level flight readiness review ran long and a final decision on whether to proceed with launch or to order a lengthy delay was not expected until the extended meeting concluded Wednesday.

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

6 days to launch

slang
2009-Aug-19, 07:14 AM
Ooh.. night launch! Better inform boss I might be a little late that day :)

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-19, 07:36 AM
Oh...

the next week will be nail-biting time again...

Glom
2009-Aug-19, 08:07 AM
Half six in the morning? Not fair!

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-19, 08:17 AM
Yes - it's early morning. However - at least I will sleep during the most tense periods of the countdown :) Or I hope so ...

Jens
2009-Aug-19, 08:28 AM
For me it will be in the early afternoon. If I'm lucky, during lunch break!

NEOWatcher
2009-Aug-19, 04:18 PM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)

I see that article has the same issue I was going to mention on MSNBC.

6:00 PM, 8/7/09, Update: ...

.... Engineers, meanwhile, are continuing a down-to-the-wire assessment of critical insulation on Discovery's external tank in the wake of foam losses during the shuttle Endeavour's launch last month.

MSNBCs version (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32468525/ns/technology_and_science-space/).


Updated 9:12 p.m. ET, Tues., Aug 18, 2009
...Last month, an unusually high amount of foam fell from the shuttle Endeavour's fuel tank during its June 15 launch.


Anyway; is the tank really that pale on this one? or is it the picture?

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-19, 09:34 PM
One in the morning? Not even on Summer Vacation, man.

matthewota
2009-Aug-20, 12:09 AM
The STS-128 Press kit is now available for download here (http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/379392main_STS-128_Press_Kit.pdf).

01101001
2009-Aug-20, 12:13 AM
I see that article has the same issue I was going to mention on MSNBC.

And an update after the launch decision today:

CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


2:10 PM, 8/19/09, Update: Shuttle Discovery cleared for Aug. 25 launch

As expected, senior NASA managers Wednesday formally cleared the shuttle Discovery for launch Tuesday on a space station resupply mission. While some engineers said they favored collecting additional data on the integrity of foam insulation on the shuttle's external tank - work that would trigger a lengthy launch delay - officials said no one objected to pressing ahead for launch at 1:36 a.m. EDT Aug. 25.

"We had lots of discussion about the foam," said Bill Gerstenmaier, chief of space operations at NASA headquarters in Washington. "Some folks wanted some additional testing, some folks had some different opinions about what the data was telling us. But it wasn't a contentious discussion, it was just really an engineering discussion about what we know and what we don't know.

It's interesting how small this "high amount" of foam was relative to a more famous foam bit:


NASA managers are extremely sensitive to foam issues in the wake of the 2003 Columbia disaster, but shuttle Program Manager John Shannon said the foam shedding under discussion following Endeavour's flight was minor in comparison.

"I read a couple of comparisons that said this was similar to Columbia," he said. "And of course on Columbia, we had a 2.2-pound piece of foam come off and damage the wing. The loss we had on the last flight that generated all of this discussion over the last two weeks was 0.044 pounds, which is one-fiftieth the size of the Columbia foam.

"That's how close we're looking, that's how sensitive we are. It generated four days of flight readiness review discussion, and a whole lot of work and additional testing. And that's exactly what we want the team to do, to look at it that closely. I feel extremely good about the results of the meeting. I think we have done absolute due diligence on the foam piece of it."

===

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

01101001
2009-Aug-20, 12:19 AM
And, this is the mission that takes COLBERT into space.

NASA Feature: Do Tread on Me (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/colbert_feature.html)

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/379663main_colbert_226x170.jpg (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/behindscenes/colbert_feature.html)


The Combined Operational Load Bearing External Resistance Treadmill, or COLBERT, will be the second treadmill on the space station, adding to a complement of six different exercise devices already in orbit that range from stationary bicycles to resistive exercise devices.

Named after comedian Stephen Colbert of Comedy Central's "The Colbert Report," the new treadmill, first and foremost, is a critical countermeasure device that will be used to keep the international crew healthy while in orbit and prepare them for return to Earth.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-21, 01:50 AM
Surprising how fast this came up. August is the shortest month, after all.

(If you don't agree with that statement, you've been out of school for a very long time.)

matthewota
2009-Aug-21, 03:44 AM
I thought February was the shortest month, with 28 days.

01101001
2009-Aug-21, 03:59 AM
I thought February was the shortest month, with 28 days.

You have to measure it with student-on-summer-vacation time units.

Antice
2009-Aug-21, 06:35 AM
I measure it in Adult time til the next sunny vacation days. and august is pretty bleak in that dep.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-21, 09:35 PM
I thought February was the shortest month, with 28 days.
Obviously, you haven't been in school for a while.

01101001
2009-Aug-22, 02:06 AM
Hot links:

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

About 3 days to launch

BetaDust
2009-Aug-22, 07:47 AM
From Space.com (http://www.space.com)

Countdown Begins for Tuesday Shuttle Launch


The clocks have begun ticking down toward NASA’s planned Tuesday launch of the space shuttle Discovery. NASA began the countdown at 11 p.m. EDT (0300 Aug. 22 GMT) at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, where engineers and astronauts are preparing for a 1:36 a.m. EDT (0536 GMT) liftoff on Tuesday morning.
More... (http://www.space.com/spaceshuttle/index.html)

http://www.space.com/spaceshuttle/index.html

-- Dennis

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-24, 03:23 AM
I wonder if anyone on the tanking team is chomping at the bit to get started. Would it be so difficult to just pump in a few tons and see if the seals are holding? Of course there's those people wandering around doing checks and stuff. never mind.

mahesh
2009-Aug-24, 10:16 AM
About 19:24 left...

Good year too, 1924:
February 5 – GMT: A radio time signal is broadcast for the first time from the Royal Greenwich Observatory.

edit:
Out of curiosity, found this on wiki for 1924:
The Earth Inductor Compass is invented in New York City.
and its link...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Inductor_Compass
happy flying...okay enough OTB / derail already....

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-24, 11:00 AM
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4715/sts128daylight.jpg (http://img26.imageshack.us/i/sts128daylight.jpg/)

Good morning, Discovery!

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-24, 09:01 PM
Good luck, Discovery!

Swift
2009-Aug-24, 09:40 PM
The latest update

Tanking Proceeding with No Difficulties
Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:20:13 PM EDT


Super-cold liquid propellants continue to pump into the massive orange external tank of space shuttle Discovery this evening. The fuel sensors in the tank are recording proper readings and no technical issues have developed in the countdown. The tank is being loaded with liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen to be used during launch by Discovery's three main engines. The weather forecast continues to call for an 80 percent chance of acceptable conditions. Liftoff remains on schedule for 1:36 a.m. EDT.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-24, 10:09 PM
I noticed on the CBS Spaceplace website that mission managers use a rule of thumb concerning lightening. ...within the first hour of tanking. What if it's forecast to be bad in the second hour? Does the chilldown create a stronger potential than the actual fuel loading? Would they de-tank if the flashes get too close? I ask because those inland storms seem to be getting close. Are they at the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't point and it doesn't make any difference which way the fuel is flowing? Hmmm.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 12:56 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


8:00 PM, 8/24/09, Update: Shuttle fueled for launch

The shuttle Discovery was loaded with a half-million gallons of liquid oxygen and hydrogen rocket fuel late today in preparation for a launch attempt at 1:36:04 a.m. EDT Tuesday.

There were no technical problems of any significance during the three-hour fueling procedure and a hydrogen vent line that leaked in June, delaying the previous shuttle flight, is working normally this evening.

The only question mark is the weather, with storm cells and threatening clouds over the spaceport in the late afternoon and early evening. But forecasters are optimistic the clouds will dissipate as the evening wears on.

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

4 hours 40 minutes to launch

Jens
2009-Aug-25, 02:16 AM
A bit more than 3 hours to go, and the crew have consented to get strapped into to a little space plane attached to a big hydrogen bomb with a bunch of firecrackers attached to its side. :)

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 03:20 AM
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html)


Shuttle Weather Officer Kathy Winters has informed Launch Director Pete Nickolenko that the Eastern Range has gone "red," or "no-go," due to a new system forming over the launch pad. Specifically, the new weather system violates the cumulus-cloud rule and flight-through-precipitation rule. Weather officials with the 45th Weather Squadron and the Spaceflight Meteorology Group in Houston continue to keep a close eye on the weather around the launch and landing sites at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida, as well as emergency landing sites overseas should they be necessary.

Astronauts are seated and cabin closeout is underway.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 03:39 AM
60% nogo for weather.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 03:49 AM
I'm starting to suspect a huge conspiracy around the meteorologists there. Endeavor was scrubbed because of bad weather - 70% GO, now Discovery may be scrubbed because of bad weather - 80% prognosis. What wrong with NASA's meteorologists?

Jens
2009-Aug-25, 03:51 AM
Or more likely, the aliens from Hellios 1957 or whatever the number was are messing around with the weather to prevent the shuttle from going up and spotting them, or something like that. So the meteorologists may be innocent in this case.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 03:53 AM
80% prognosis.

Still 40% go for weather.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 03:56 AM
T-48 minutes and counting

Launch target:
2009, August 24, 2236 PDT, Monday
2009, August 25, 0136 EDT, Tuesday
2009, August 25, 0536 UTC, Tuesday

1 hour 40 minutes to launch

megrfl
2009-Aug-25, 04:10 AM
aargh! the weather.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 04:46 AM
50 minutes to launch

Weather continues to be assessed.

All else is go for launch.

Graybeard6
2009-Aug-25, 04:53 AM
12:50 AM ED; T-9 minutes and holding. It's raining (big surprise, it's summertime in Florida.) The video is gorgeous with the rain through the floodlights.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 05:06 AM
Weather trending better.

Launch blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html):


According to Shuttle Weather Officer Kathy Winters, the storms in the launch vicinity are beginning to dissipate. There are still several launch weather constraints in the "red" right now. Everyone is watching the weather to see if it will clear up in time to allow a liftoff for space shuttle Discovery at 1:36 a.m.

30 minutes to launch

Graybeard6
2009-Aug-25, 05:08 AM
1:05 AM EDT; weather is getting better. Now they're up against the end of the launch window.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 05:21 AM
15 minutes to launch

Weather still trending better -- if there's enough time.

ToSeek
2009-Aug-25, 05:26 AM
Houston Flight says weather is nogo for launch.

Graybeard6
2009-Aug-25, 05:27 AM
It's a scrub for today, they'll try again tomorrow.

Jens
2009-Aug-25, 05:27 AM
Darn, they scrubbed the launch due to the weather.

01101001
2009-Aug-25, 05:28 AM
Weather nogo.

Scrub.

Try again tomorrow.

Launch target:
2009, August 25, 2210 PDT, Tuesday
2009, August 26, 0110 EDT, Wednesday
2009, August 26, 0510 UTC, Wednesday

About 23-1/2 hours to launch

megrfl
2009-Aug-25, 05:28 AM
Scrubbed. Night all.

LaurelHS
2009-Aug-25, 05:32 AM
CNN says the next attempt will be 1:10 a.m. tomorrow.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 05:45 AM
Meteorologists INNOCENT? I'm really MAD! How can this be possible? STS-128, STS-127... The list can continue - shuttles launches scrubbed - initial prognosis 70%, 80%, 60% favorable weather. What will be the next step - 90% favourable weather and scrubbing again?

slang
2009-Aug-25, 05:52 AM
Awww... 7:10 dutchy time tomorrow... getting earlier and earlier. Good. A little more buffer between launch and hop-in-the-car-to-the-saltmines time :)

mahesh
2009-Aug-25, 10:15 AM
I have said before. Even if only in the F&G at BAUT. But I meant it...."Pressure to launch is no good."
We should remember Challenger and her brave crew. R I P !
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Challenger_flight_51-l_crew.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Challenger_flight_51-l_crew.jpg&h=2400&w=3000&sz=4094&tbnid=OLRtFxIdx76BAM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dchallenger%2Bcrew&hl=en&usg=__kgaNWfy75EbYXjBhbJxEvVChRv4=&ei=1biTStrlIseQjAfV-aHqDQ&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=3&ct=image

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. If the weather-folk say 'No', we should take heed.
If the crew and shuttle safety is endangered (window or no window), for whatever reason.....scrub it.

Always another day.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 10:25 AM
I see your point. But the weather folks gave us false hopes yesterday. The forecast 80% GO didn't change until 2 hours to liftoff.

mahesh
2009-Aug-25, 10:29 AM
I mean, even a little bit of 'bad light', more often than not, stops / suspends a game of cricket!

A shuttle launch is more important in our life, quest. We should be more careful.
The brave crew, who regularly put their lives on the line, for the benefit of the rest of us, deserve a bit more respect from us.

As Jenssan says

...A bit more than 3 hours to go, and the crew have consented to get strapped into to a little space plane attached to a big hydrogen bomb with a bunch of firecrackers attached to its side.

mahesh
2009-Aug-25, 10:33 AM
I see your point. But the weather folks gave us false hopes yesterday. The forecast 80% GO didn't change until 2 hours to liftoff.


My dear Zvezdichko

Anticipation and Disappointment are first cousins.

Hopefully, the weather will be fine for a great launch tomorrow.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 10:48 AM
Yes, the forecast calls for 70% acceptable conditions.

But should we think we have a high probability to see it flying? Endeavour and Discovery both failed to launch at 70% and 80% Go. I remember seeing shuttle flying with a forecast calling for 30% GO.

slang
2009-Aug-25, 11:32 AM
I see your point. But the weather folks gave us false hopes yesterday. The forecast 80% GO didn't change until 2 hours to liftoff.

Well, that's weather. An 80% probability is no guarantee.. it still leaves a 20% chance of unacceptable conditions. Thunderstorms can develop quickly.

It is just what it is: a forecast with enough chance of getting a shot at launching to justify fueling up, etc. If there are enough alternate launch windows NASA may choose to skip one day with bad or mediocre forecast, to have more options in the next days. This has something to do with consumables, maybe the fuel cells, which need to be replenished or something like that, after two or three launch attempts in a row. (IIRC). With few launch options ahead, they may take a chance even with a lower probability for good weather.

If you are seriously interested in investigating the accuracy of the weather forecasters, you should study a significant number of forecasts and launches or aborts, not just 2 or 3, and include cases where weather was ok but a technical reason forced an abort.

Jens
2009-Aug-25, 02:13 PM
But should we think we have a high probability to see it flying? Endeavour and Discovery both failed to launch at 70% and 80% Go. I remember seeing shuttle flying with a forecast calling for 30% GO.

This is something that has been brought up before, but the weather conditions in Florida in the US are not that stable. Thunderstorms develop very quickly in that region, so it is hard to make predictions. My grandmother used to live there, and I remember once driving on the freeway, and suddenly a squall came and it was pouring rain and thundering for 10 or 15 minutes. Then the weather got better.

ToSeek
2009-Aug-25, 02:51 PM
This is something that has been brought up before, but the weather conditions in Florida in the US are not that stable. Thunderstorms develop very quickly in that region, so it is hard to make predictions. My grandmother used to live there, and I remember once driving on the freeway, and suddenly a squall came and it was pouring rain and thundering for 10 or 15 minutes. Then the weather got better.

I get the impression that last night was a matter of timing - if they'd been able to wait another half-hour or so, things would have cleared up, or at least that's how it was trending.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-25, 05:58 PM
The word they taught me in meteorology class that best describes Florida's weather is "DYNAMIC" Our peninsula is surrounded by water (I know, that's redundant) in a sub-tropical region. It can change SO quickly. I think the reason the forecasters were so confident, is that by mid-night, any daytime convective (heat induced lifting of moist air masses) activity has been eliminated. Our rains are usually in the 6 to 9 oclock time period, when the atmosphere has begun to cool. This morning was an example of mother nature throwing us all a curve ball. As for past waivers of launch commit criteria, that all changed after Columbia. Not only do we need conditions to be safe enough for the vehicle, they need to be good enough for filming, to see if nasty bits are harming her external surfaces. When they get to orbit, a scary looking ding discovered during examination might be beter understood if you have film to look at explaining what hit what.

BetaDust
2009-Aug-25, 06:00 PM
Awww... 7:10 dutchy time tomorrow... getting earlier and earlier. Good. :)

Yes. :) Same here.

I might just make it.

--Dennis

BetaDust
2009-Aug-25, 06:11 PM
T-11 Hours till launch.

BetaDust
2009-Aug-25, 07:10 PM
T-10 Hours till launch.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 07:25 PM
BetaDust : It should be better said L-10 hours. "T minus" concerns the official countdown clock.

BetaDust
2009-Aug-25, 07:41 PM
BetaDust : It should be better said L-10 hours. "T minus" concerns the official countdown clock.

Thanks Zvezdichko, I stand Corrected.

L-9hrs. 30mins...

--Dennis

BetaDust
2009-Aug-25, 07:51 PM
From Nasa.gov (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)

Discovery Gets the "Go" for Tanking


Discovery Gets the "Go" for Tanking
Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:25:02 PM UTC+0200

The "Go" was given to load space shuttle Discovery’s external fuel tank.
Discovery’s launch was postponed early Tuesday morning due to lingering thunderstorms in the vicinity of the launch pad.
More... (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

-- Dennis

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 10:05 PM
SCRUB!

I wonder when the Russian scrubbed a Soyuz or a Progress launch :( It must have been long ago.

KISS principle ALWAYS works. The shuttle is so complex that it's doomed from the beginning.

slang
2009-Aug-25, 10:35 PM
spaceflightnow.com (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/):


Trouble with a liquid hydrogen fill and drain valve on the space shuttle Discovery has cancelled tonight's planned launch. How long it will take to fix this problem and reschedule the liftoff is not yet known.

Antice
2009-Aug-25, 10:39 PM
bummer. but to be expected when they have to fill and empty the thing several times before they get it off the ground.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-25, 10:46 PM
Yes... this is what makes me wonder.

How can the Russians do it and NASA can't do it...

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 12:53 AM
No news here. Just some old links.

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

Oh, here's some small news: it's about 40 minutes to the start of:


The post-scrub briefing is targeted for 9:30 p.m. EDT on NASA TV.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-26, 01:35 AM
Yes... this is what makes me wonder.

How can the Russians do it and NASA can't do it...
Their launch sites are landlocked and not by the sea. Weather doesn't come on as quickly.

I hope they can launch tonight. It will be strange to go to sleep with six people in space and wake up with thirteen.

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 01:42 AM
The post-scrub briefing is targeted for 9:30 p.m. EDT on NASA TV.

The press conference reporting on the mission slippage has slipped.

It's now: no earlier than 9:45 EDT.

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 02:04 AM
The press conference reporting on the mission slippage has slipped.

Now underway. NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 02:11 AM
If the valve investigation goes well, it's a 48-hour turn-around. Aiming for Friday morning early, early EDT. They'll know more as time progresses. (Another possible launch time is late, late Friday, EDT, almost 24 hours later.)

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 03:22 AM
Tentative launch target
2009, August 27, 2122 PDT, Thursday
2009, August 28, 0022 EDT, Friday
2009, August 28, 0422 UTC, Friday

49 hours to launch

01101001
2009-Aug-26, 04:54 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


11:45 PM, 8/25/09, Update: Valve tests planned Wednesday for possible Friday launch attempt

Engineers plan to test a suspect hydrogen fill-and-drain valve aboard the shuttle Discovery late Wednesday to determine if the valve or a sensor system that measures its position is to blame for readings that forced NASA to call off the shuttle's countdown Tuesday, delaying launch from early Wednesday until Friday at the earliest.

If it turns out the position sensor was to blame - and if NASA managers can get comfortable launching Discovery without full instrumentation in a critical system - then a launch attempt Friday at 12:22 a.m. EDT might be feasible. But if engineers are forced to open the shuttle's engine compartment and replace any suspect components, launch could be delayed to around Oct. 17.

Yes, Oct. 17.

More detail there.

mahesh
2009-Aug-26, 06:38 AM
Their launch sites are landlocked and not by the sea. Weather doesn't come on as quickly.
Thanks Kai, for your acute observation.

I hope they can launch tonight. It will be strange to go to sleep with six people in space and wake up with thirteen.

Oh Kai, I suspect it'll be a while (at least two days) before Discovery docks with ISS upon launching. Don't you?

edit:
Reminds me of nutrient agar plates. Go to sleep with nothing visible...(after incubation)...wake up with...hey look, lots of thingies! :D

Jens
2009-Aug-26, 07:15 AM
Trouble with a liquid hydrogen fill and drain valve on the space shuttle Discovery has cancelled tonight's planned launch. How long it will take to fix this problem and reschedule the liftoff is not yet known.

That's what they want us to believe. Well maybe this should be in the conspiracy section, but I heard that one of the meteorologists was seen in the early morning fiddling with the hydrogen valve. The suspicion is that he didn't want to take the blame for this scrub!

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-26, 07:27 AM
Haha... interesting.

We have a 48 hour scrub. The shuttle will (I hope so) finally launch on Friday.

There are several flights remaining for this ship. They have a difficult time to make it fly with all these components breaking down.

Antice
2009-Aug-26, 07:29 AM
Reminds me of nutrient agar plates. Go to sleep with nothing visible...(after incubation)...wake up with...hey look, lots of thingies! :D

You have to be a biology buff to appreciate that kind of thing I think.
I cant help thinking of how sick those thingies can make people when they are living in the wrong place. :sick:

Glom
2009-Aug-26, 09:07 AM
A dodgy valve? It's anything with these people.

voyager75
2009-Aug-26, 09:47 AM
IIRC the last valve failed by way of a piece breaking off the end of it. It looks to me to be machined with a sharp radius where the valve seat meets the shank of the valve. This is just waiting to break. Having said that, there may well be a reason to have made it like that and not like a car engine valve with a smooth radius.
Any news about this valve failure?

mahesh
2009-Aug-26, 11:13 AM
A dodgy valve? It's anything with these people.
Post-scrub interview is explaining the situation about the valve. It's not dodgy. (i can't type/write as fast as ZeroOne and or slang have done at previous interviews...so excuse me pls) You can read about it at leisure.

Safer to have a scrub now and sort the valve situation out, than have several reasons for regret later...I don't want to go to that dreadful place.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-26, 05:18 PM
I haven't found a link to any photos of the suspect valve, but V-ger seems to have seen it somewhere. Anybody have a link?

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-26, 05:26 PM
I can't help but wonder if the tolerances in these valves change between overhauls. Might such a change be the culprit if the sensor is not defective? Or is the material they're made of stable through lifetime? Also can't help drawing a comparison of the dislodged fill/drain tube on Apollo 13's O2 tank 2, and the series of events that followed. I understand the engineers' reluctance to cycle and risk extensive damage. Funny how one thing leads to another in these complex vehicles.

Antice
2009-Aug-26, 06:08 PM
Is anything exposed to the coldest liquid on earth stable? seriously. the material must become as brittle as candy after repeated thawing and freezing cycles.
A leak here can be very fatal so those sensors just have to work perfectly in order to insure a safe launch. manually inspecting for a leaks has it's own trouble. LH2 isn't something you want to be exposed to.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-26, 06:09 PM
You'd think that with all the "scrubbing" there'd be less "slippage".LOL sorry, couldn't help it, it was hanging out there.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-26, 06:25 PM
NASA says we have 70% chance for favourable weather for launch on Friday. I just have no word what's going and how they are dealing with the issue.

slang
2009-Aug-26, 06:49 PM
You'd think that with all the "scrubbing" there'd be less "slippage".LOL sorry, couldn't help it, it was hanging out there.

You're making connie blush! And just so I don't get labeled "meaningless clutter..", here's a nice article on nasaspaceflight.com (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/08/live-discovery-second-sts-128-launch-attempt/).

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-26, 07:16 PM
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

The boil off of the remaining liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen in space shuttle Discovery's external tank was completed at about 1:40 p.m. EDT today. Crews have begun inerting the tank with helium gas to flush out any remaining hydrogen gas. They expect the process to be completed at about 5:30 p.m.

Following inerting, engineers will begin evaluating and testing the liquid hydrogen fill and drain valve in the shuttle's main propulsion system by opening and closing it.

This morning's launch attempt was postponed after an indication that valve failed to perform as expected during fueling of the shuttle's external tank Tuesday afternoon.

NASA is targeting Discovery's next launch attempt for no earlier than Friday, Aug. 28 at 12:22 a.m., depending on the results of the testing. The weather forecast calls for a 70 percent chance of acceptable conditions at launch time.

Swift
2009-Aug-26, 08:02 PM
Is anything exposed to the coldest liquid on earth stable? seriously. the material must become as brittle as candy after repeated thawing and freezing cycles.
A leak here can be very fatal so those sensors just have to work perfectly in order to insure a safe launch. manually inspecting for a leaks has it's own trouble. LH2 isn't something you want to be exposed to.
Materials for cryogenic service are very tricky. And there are probably added complications with hydrogen - I know at higher temperatures that hydrogen can lead to something called hydrogen embrittlement in certain alloys (I don't know enough about it at these conditions).

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-27, 01:01 AM
Oh Kai, I suspect it'll be a while (at least two days) before Discovery docks with ISS upon launching. Don't you?
Thirteen people in space, not on the station. Space is over 62 miles up.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-27, 08:26 AM
As far as I understand from official and not official sources, the valve functions normally. The only option that will allow the shuttle to fly on time and not to miss the launch window is to fly as-is. A repair would mean 100% pushing the launch beyond the current schedule.

mahesh
2009-Aug-27, 08:35 AM
... here's a nice article on nasaspaceflight.com (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/08/live-discovery-second-sts-128-launch-attempt/).

Thanks for that slang...An Ace! good article and link.

Kai, my apologies for reading yours wrongly. You make good observations. I like your style. You are, of course, right.
My interpretation is hasty and wrong. I tend to get carried away...like, on the wind....

edit:
Kai, it's the last week, few more days before school / college begins...and there are only about half a dozen flights left; not that many scheduled for night lift-offs, I'd've thought, ...can't you stay up for this one? Just curious!

But still, the idea of six to thirteen is magic! Nice! :D

voyager75
2009-Aug-27, 01:33 PM
It was on the nasa website when it happened but here is a link to an Australian site that still has it: http://www.spaceinfo.com.au/shuttle20090223.html
But as Zvezdichko said, all appears to be working normally so it may not be this again. Touch wood.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-27, 01:37 PM
You're making connie blush! And just so I don't get labeled "meaningless clutter..", here's a nice article on nasaspaceflight.com (http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2009/08/live-discovery-second-sts-128-launch-attempt/).

A whole space program can blush? I never knew...:)

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-27, 01:43 PM
T-10 hours 43 minutes and COUNTING according to the interactive clock here:

http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/cdt/

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html

NASA confirms that all tests were completed successfully.

(Copied my own post from NASA Spaceflight).

Swift
2009-Aug-27, 02:15 PM
Fraser has posted on his blog (http://www.universetoday.com/2009/08/27/how-close-was-that-lightning-to-the-shuttle/) a very cool picture of a close lightening strike during Tuesday's launch attempt.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-27, 05:28 PM
Kai, it's the last week, few more days before school / college begins...and there are only about half a dozen flights left; not that many scheduled for night lift-offs, I'd've thought, ...can't you stay up for this one? Just curious!
I already did stay up once, for the Perseids, and my mother didn't like it.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-27, 06:08 PM
NASA's MMT team has decided to switch directly for the second window tomorrow. This will give the team more time to come up with a plan if the sensor fails again during tanking.

01101001
2009-Aug-27, 08:59 PM
Links:

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


12:15 PM, 8/27/09, Update: LAUNCH SCRUBBED to no earlier than Friday night to collect additional data

More there.

Tentative launch target
2009, August 28, 2059 PDT, Friday
2009, August 28, 2359 EDT, Friday
2009, August 29, 0359 UTC, Saturday

31 hours to launch

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-27, 11:59 PM
Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow...

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-28, 01:49 AM
Well, I say BRAVO MMT. Don't go until you're sure you're go. Vehicle AND launch team.

mahesh
2009-Aug-28, 06:52 AM
Well, I say BRAVO MMT. Don't go until you're sure you're go. Vehicle AND launch team.


Bravo!
:clap: :clap:

Agreed

Swift
2009-Aug-28, 01:18 PM
The latest from NASA.gov

Countdown Resumes
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 09:03:07 AM EDT


The countdown for the launch of space shuttle Discovery's STS-128 mission is under way again. The count resumed at 8:34 a.m. EDT at the T-11 hour point with no issues being reported that could affect launch.

The Rotating Service Structure on Kennedy Space Center's Launch Pad 39A was rolled away from Discovery this morning at 6:11 a.m.

NASA's Mission Management Team plans to meet at noon to review launch preparations and determine whether teams will continue to march toward a targeted liftoff tonight at 11:59 p.m.

Weather is forecasted to be 60 percent "go" for external tank loading and 60 percent "go" for launch.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-28, 08:05 PM
One minute to midnight, launch the rockets!

Swift
2009-Aug-28, 09:06 PM
Still looking good

Valve Working Well as Tanking Moves Ahead
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:38:14 PM EDT


Tanking of space shuttle Discovery is continuing and going well at Launch Pad 39A at NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida. The filling operations have transitioned to reduced fast fill on LH2 and have a good "closed" indication on the LH2 inboard fill and drain valve. Tanking operations are expected to conclude at about 5:45 p.m. EDT.

Liftoff of Discovery on the STS-128 mission remains on schedule for 11:59 p.m. EDT tonight and the weather remains the primary concern. The forecast calls for a 60 percent chance of acceptable conditions. Meteorologists are watching for signs of anvil clouds and thunderstorms within 20 miles of the Shuttle Landing Facility.

mahesh
2009-Aug-28, 09:24 PM
Oh, I'm going to miss the event, live. Since I won't be home, my access to this browser is limited, time-wise. Shuts at midnight (2300 GMT) and opens again at six...may be later...if it's later, then my goose is cooked...lift-off-wise. I'll see if I can arrange for it to be opened in time...I mean an hour earlier...but somehow I doubt it, I can.
Oh well...will have to do with re-transmissions.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-28, 09:38 PM
A lot of thunder here south of KSC. Near constant rumble.

mahesh
2009-Aug-28, 10:04 PM
A lot of thunder here south of KSC. Near constant rumble.
naw...you don't say, connie...!

Hopefully it'll subside...soon.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-28, 11:44 PM
naw...you don't say, connie...!

Hopefully it'll subside...soon.

Indeed, it has, but as I feared a few of those nasty red blips have popped up over the cape. I hope the ol' girl's o.k.

Swift
2009-Aug-29, 01:08 AM
The latest from NASA

Astronauts at Launch Pad
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:39:09 PM EDT


The crew of STS-128 is getting into space shuttle Discovery as the countdown proceeds on schedule toward a liftoff at 11:59 p.m. EDT. Commander Rick "C.J." Sturckow is the first aboard, climbing into the left-hand seat on Discovery's flight deck. Communication checks will be conducted throughout the strap-in as the astronauts take their places. There are no technical issues standing in the way of launch, but weather specialists continue to watch the skies over NASA's Kennedy Space Center in Florida for signs of violations.

Swift
2009-Aug-29, 03:30 AM
Looking good


Discovery's Countdown in Last Planned Hold
Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:22:08 PM EDT


The countdown for launch has entered its last pause tonight as all remains on schedule for space shuttle Discovery to fly into orbit at 11:59 EDT. The weather is forecast "go" and the launch team is not working any technical issues.

Graybeard6
2009-Aug-29, 04:05 AM
She's off! everything looks good so far.

megrfl
2009-Aug-29, 04:22 AM
I went out back around 12:53 with the laptop. I had Nasa television up and was awaiting the launch. According to Nasa television we still had 1min 30 before launch. We noticed that the horizon became pink (we are overcast) and then brighter pink and then the shuttle appeared, Nasa televion still had not gotten to the count down. Nasa television or the website seems to be behind by 2-3 mins.

Did anyone else notice this?

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-29, 04:35 AM
What a beaut! Local overcast cleared just in time for the launch. I was almost able to follow her to MECO. That 51(?) degree inclination is more apparent at night too, as after the solids separated the light from the mains almost appeared to hang in the same spot in the northern sky. I hope there's another night launch that I can catch with my son.

mahesh
2009-Aug-29, 04:37 AM
Hey meg......
It could be your browser, that's slow to synchronise with live events...
I'm still waiting to connect to nasa tv...dial-up...slower than a snail's pace...
I did manage to catch an 'x-ray' type transmission of the lift-off...quite a few minutes into the event. on another site. On a tiny screen.
Akamai Yahoo or something...

Have to wait until I get home later today. This here, isn't going anywhere fast.

Glad that the take-off went smoothly and on time. A big 'Thank You' to all the wonderful people who have been working at it.

Graybeard6
2009-Aug-29, 04:45 AM
We watched the NASA feed on a local cable news channel and no problems. As usual, we watched the lift-off on TV, then walked out the front door just as the shuttle broke tree line. I tried using my new camera, with which I am not yet familiar and got what I think is one good picture. I'll post it if I figure out how.

mahesh
2009-Aug-29, 04:57 AM
Good one ...Graybeard...
I see Discovery one forty miles up...south, miles south of Perth...heading towards Tasmania / New Zealand...first lap....as it were....

edit:
Graybeard...surely you meant when you figure it out!

mahesh
2009-Aug-29, 05:55 AM
What a beaut! Local overcast cleared just in time for the launch. I was almost able to follow her to MECO. That 51(?) degree inclination is more apparent at night too, as after the solids separated the light from the mains almost appeared to hang in the same spot in the northern sky. I hope there's another night launch that I can catch with my son.
Sounds great connie (my bolds...)
and I hope it's dark but early. Your son may not like being up late.

What little glimpse I got, live, of the launch, the screen was all blues / reds / orange...like an x-ray shot...but I could clearly see the three Discovery engines and SRBs separate ..right in the centre of the small screen...three small dots on the left and an undefined blip on the right..shimmering, as it were...

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-29, 07:32 AM
A good view of Shuttle's payload bay:

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8938/shuttlebay5.png (http://img137.imageshack.us/i/shuttlebay5.png/)

mahesh
2009-Aug-29, 12:43 PM
Yeah...nice...saw some footage just now... lovely shots of Earth and the rising gibbous waxing Moon and the bay doors opening.

Dgennero
2009-Aug-29, 03:17 PM
Some nice launch pictures (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1209856/Third-time-lucky-space-shuttle-Discovery-dramatic-midnight-launch.html).
Cheer and rejoice - if things continue to point downward for human space exploration, we'll be stuck on this rock for a long time :(

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Aug-29, 03:37 PM
Great pictures. Love those long exposures.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-29, 10:12 PM
Congrats! Orbit at last!

JonClarke
2009-Aug-29, 11:57 PM
Some nice launch pictures (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1209856/Third-time-lucky-space-shuttle-Discovery-dramatic-midnight-launch.html).
Cheer and rejoice - if things continue to point downward for human space exploration, we'll be stuck on this rock for a long time :(

Who says they are pointing downward? More countries are sending more people into space than ever before.

Spacemad
2009-Aug-30, 08:23 AM
Last year I was watching the launch of one of the shuttles here on the computer, watching "live" NASA TV. At the same time my wife was watching it on TV. The TV was a minute or two ahead on the computer! At first I thought she was watching a replay of a past mission but, no, she was watching the same mission I was watching!

We get both broadband & TV down the same cable yet there was still the time lag!

In our kitchen we have a small TV that picks up the signals broadcast over the air & it is about 1/2 minute faster than the TV by cable!

mahesh
2009-Aug-30, 08:57 AM
Regular terrestrial TV / Cable TV / radio transmissions ...all show / have time gaps when airing the same event. Understandably so. As the 'Airing' does not originate in the same source. Pardon my lay terminology.

There are numerous example from my experience, like y'all's too.
First one, relative to BAUT... that stands out in my memory is.....akin to Spacemad's..

When 'Return To Launch' Discovery with Eileen Collins..STS114...landed. There was live transmission on BBC news. It was not in sync with NASA tv.
On Remembrance Days (Veterans Day for our cousins) the transmissions on radio and TV aren't in sync.
TV transmision and radio commentary (plug in my ear) at cricket test matches is two seconds adrift.
So I always know what's going to happen next on the screen (if looking at one) sorry, had to get the last one in....

mahesh
2009-Aug-30, 12:44 PM
Discovery going across the Philippines, just now (night zone)...there are thunderstorms one can see out the window...:)
great imaging...

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-30, 04:19 PM
I just watched the launch video at last on NASA.gov. Didn't seem to be any debris from the tank that I could see, but booster burnout looks way more energetic at night.

Swift
2009-Aug-30, 05:56 PM
CNN (TV) reported this morning that yesterday's self-inspection found no apparent launch damage to the tiles.

Glom
2009-Aug-30, 06:10 PM
CNN (TV) reported this morning that yesterday's self-inspection found no apparent launch damage to the tiles.

Was that using the RMS camera?

BetaDust
2009-Aug-30, 07:45 PM
Shuttle Discovery Closes In On Space Station. (http://http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090830-sts128-docking-preview.html)

From Space.com (http://www.space.com)



Space shuttle Discovery is closing in on the International Space Station for a late Sunday rendezvous in orbit around Earth.

Discovery and a crew of seven astronauts are due to dock at the space station tonight at 9:04 p.m. EDT (0104 Aug. 31 GMT)
and boost the outpost's population to a record-tying 13 people.
More... (http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090830-sts128-docking-preview.html)

-- Dennis

voyager75
2009-Aug-30, 08:05 PM
They have just completed a height adjustment burn using the OMS. All went well apparently.

BetaDust
2009-Aug-30, 08:21 PM
Discovery Crew Prepares for Docking Today (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html).

From: nasa.gov (http://www.nasa.gov).


Space shuttle Discovery’s crew was awakened at 1:30 p.m. EDT with the song “Made to Love” by Toby Mac and played for Mission Specialist Nicole Stott. Commander Rick Sturckow and his six crewmates will dock Discovery to the International Space Station this evening, after completing a series of rendezvous operations and maneuvers that begin at 3:29 p.m. The Terminal Initiation Burn is targeted for 6:25 p.m. More... (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)


-- Dennis

slang
2009-Aug-30, 08:26 PM
Last year I was watching the launch of one of the shuttles here on the computer, watching "live" NASA TV. At the same time my wife was watching it on TV. The TV was a minute or two ahead on the computer!

Yes, there's usually an annoying delay on online NASA TV.. but for some of us it's the only way we can watch NASA TV. And I prefer their coverage much, much over the other options available, all of which (in my experience) have commentators that feel they need to be in the picture, all kinds of distracting things that tend to drown important events or statements, advertising decals, commercial breaks, switches to the latest news on Paris Hilton, (translaters getting things wrong and drowning events), etc etc. Give me the "pure" feed, even with two minutes delay.

slang
2009-Aug-30, 08:41 PM
Just heard part of a briefing, and apparently there's a little issue with one of the vernier thrusters. A quick trip to spaceflightnow.com (http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/090830fd3/) shows:


The only issue going into today's docking procedure was the loss of small vernier steering jets due to a leaking forward thruster that was isolated Saturday. While the small thrusters are useful during docking and later, to help control the attitude, or orientation, of the space station, Sturckow and his crewmates have trained to make the approach using more powerful primary thrusters and flight controllers don't expect any problems.

About 4.5 hours to docking.. but I heard that on NASA TV online, so no guarantees on its delays :razz:

slang
2009-Aug-30, 08:50 PM
Visual on Discovery from the ISS, at 38 nautical miles. A course correction burn imminent.

ETA: good burn.

slang
2009-Aug-30, 09:14 PM
Another course correction in about 15 minutes, and the Terminal Initiation Burn in a little over one hour. This last burn will take the shuttle to about 1,000 ft (300m) of the ISS.

slang
2009-Aug-30, 10:17 PM
TI burn in about 10 minutes

New page, new copy of 01101001's linkfarm

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))

slang
2009-Aug-30, 10:33 PM
Wow, the ignition of the left OMS engine for the 11 second Terminal Initiation burn was clearly visible from many miles out. Discovery now on its way to intercept the ISS for docking.

Still ahead (times EDT, and mission elapsed)

Sun 08:09 PM...01...20...10...00...Rendezvous pitch maneuver
Sun 09:03 PM...01...21...04...07...DOCKING
Sun 09:29 PM...01...21...30...00...Leak checks
Sun 09:59 PM...01...22...00...00...Group B computer powerdown
Sun 09:59 PM...01...22...00...00...Orbiter docking system prepped for ingress
Sun 10:29 PM...01...22...30...00...Post docking laptop reconfig
Sun 10:29 PM...01...22...30...00...Hatch open
Sun 10:59 PM...01...23...00...00...Welcome aboard!
Sun 11:09 PM...01...23...10...00...Safety briefing
Sun 11:44 PM...01...23...45...00...SSRMS grapples OBSS

About an hour and half away for the Ballet In Space.

slang
2009-Aug-30, 11:00 PM
Shuttle really closing in now, can actually make out the shape on the camera view from ISS. Regrettably I won't be around to cover RPM & docking, so anyone who'd like to start (or continue!) a BAUT career in NASA TV parrotting, go ahead :)

01101001
2009-Aug-31, 01:40 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


9:00 PM, 8/30/09, Update: Shuttle Discovery docks with space station

Shuttle commander Frederick "C.J." Sturckow, forced by a leaky steering jet to use Discovery's big maneuvering thrusters instead of preferred fine-control vernier engines, deftly guided the spaceplace to a smooth docking with the International Space Station Sunday night to cap a two-day rendezvous.

Approaching from directly in front of the laboratory complex as both spacecraft sailed 220 miles above the central Atlantic Ocean at 5 miles per second, the shuttle's payload bay docking port engaged its counterpart on the front end of the statin's Harmony module at 8:54 p.m. EDT, about 10 minutes ahead of schedule.

01101001
2009-Aug-31, 02:36 AM
Hatch open.

Hugs galore.

mahesh
2009-Aug-31, 05:44 AM
Have yet to see footage of Discovery launch and rendezvous / docking....
The only brief bit I saw, was the thermal imaging of the launch..about thirty seconds. Tryin' to be patient until I get home tonight, to watch it all on a faster browser...

Thanks for all the updates you guys...much obliged

mahesh
2009-Aug-31, 06:42 AM
...About an hour and half away for the Ballet In Space.
Yes indeed, a dance.
The dance of the Shuttles and the Space Station is Exquisite Beyond Words.

Thank you slang for helping conjure up in my mind, the gorgeous scenes with The Blue Danube from Space Odyssey 2001.

I found this link...ten minutes... to share
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4cf1r_2001-a-space-odyssey-blue-danube_music

Just reminds me how beautifully put together this film really is. Thank you Mr Kubrick.

Glom
2009-Aug-31, 09:06 AM
Watching the live footage of the orbiter attached to the station and just doing the floating thing. It's HUGE! Look at those wings! They must weigh a ton. No wonder the Space Shuttle is so expensive.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-31, 09:10 AM
I'm not a big fan of the space shuttle as I've always said, but I think I'll miss these days after the fleet is retired.

Yes, the NASA TV footage is great.

KaiYeves
2009-Aug-31, 02:13 PM
Yes, the video of the shuttle maneuvering to dock with the station is always something special, this time even more so given that just over a month ago, I was simulating the same thing, and our Pilot needed lots of help.

Zvezdichko
2009-Aug-31, 09:08 PM
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/1475/sts128day4leonardoout2.png (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/sts128day4leonardoout2.png/)

This just looks great. Leonardo is out!

01101001
2009-Sep-01, 04:04 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)

Coming up (times EDT):

9/01
12:54 AM: EVA review
01:34 AM: MPLM ingress [already happened ahead of schedule]
04:59 AM: Crew sleep begins
05:00 AM: Daily highlights
11:00 AM: FD update
12:59 PM: Crew wakeup
03:59 PM: MPLM transfers begin
04:29 PM: Zero G stowage rack
05:24 PM: COLBERT transfer
05:49 PM: EVA-1 begins
06:34 PM: ATA release and stow
06:44 PM: Crew quarters transfer
08:19 PM: EUTEF retrieval
08:59 PM: ARS rack transfer
10:09 PM: MISSE retrieval
09/02:
12:19 AM: EVA-1 ends
03:00 AM: Mission status
04:29 AM: Crew sleep begins
05:00 AM: Daily highlights
10:00 AM: FD update
12:29 PM: Crew wakeup

mahesh
2009-Sep-01, 10:39 PM
It's just fantastic to watch....the EVA. Live!
And follow the tracking too.

Thanks ZeroOne for the times / links...

Glom
2009-Sep-02, 11:51 AM
It's over! You promised me a live spacewalk, mahesh. Oh wait, you posted at 11:39 PM.

Well there's a little video brochure of the Constellation dream. I like how the Orion instrument panel looks like that of an S-92.

Glom
2009-Sep-02, 12:05 PM
The repeat is on. I see what you mean, mahesh. It's great the way there are so many cameras around these days.

Glom
2009-Sep-02, 12:22 PM
Cool shots of lightning in that hurricane.

mahesh
2009-Sep-02, 12:56 PM
And just now, as the two ships about to hit landfall...South America...lovely footage from ISS ...
Earth and the open bay doors of Discovery. Yum yum...

01101001
2009-Sep-02, 01:46 PM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


12:30 AM, 9/2/09, Update: Spacewalk No. 1 ends; all objectives accomplished; space debris impact sites observed

After removing a 1,300-pound ammonia coolant tank, astronauts John "Danny" Olivas and Nicole Stott waited out a storm-triggered communications blackout before successfully retrieving U.S. and European experiment packages mounted on the International Space Station to wrap up a six-hour 35-minute spacewalk.

Running ahead of schedule, the astronauts turned to a few get-ahead tasks that were eventually called off. In the process, however, Olivas reported an unusual number of space debris impact sites on a tool box and the Quest airlock module.

"I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but looking at the tool box, there are several MMOD (micrometeoroid/orbital debris) strikes on its face," he said. "I count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven..."

Coming up (times EDT):

Today, installing stuff and preparing for tomorrow's spacewalk.

10:00 AM: FD update
12:29 PM: Crew wakeup
01:30 PM: HTV briefing
03:44 PM: FIR rack install
04:44 PM: MSSR rack install
05:44 PM: MELFI-2 install
06:30 PM: PAO event
08:30 PM: Mission status

09/03:
04:29 AM: Crew sleep begins
05:00 AM: Dailly highlights
10:00 AM: FD update
12:29 PM: Crew wakeup
05:19 PM: EVA-2 begins
07:34 PM: ATA install
09:54 PM: Old ATA berthing
11:49 PM: EVA-2 ends

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-02, 03:49 PM
The spacewalk photos look great.

mahesh
2009-Sep-02, 10:12 PM
Going south, past Australia / New zealand, before the upswing, over South Pacific Ocean, some beautiful footage. Daylight zone too. Vantage from, part of the ISS looking 'up' Earth-wards, sunlight reflecting off Discovery. Lovely.

Media interviews coming up...imminently...

mahesh
2009-Sep-02, 10:34 PM
Great gap in my education, of Spanish, precludes me understanding the lively, vibrant conversation.

Thank you Mr Hernández. Great to see you.

mahesh
2009-Sep-03, 12:42 PM
Highlight footage, just now, from yesterday, while the crew were prepping the suits for EVA today...the was a brief glimpse of outside...shot...the sliveriest sliver of Earth just overhead....lovely.

Swift
2009-Sep-03, 03:03 PM
From NASA.gov

Debris Avoidance Maneuver Not Necessary
Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:11:12 AM EDT

Experts analyzing a conjunction between the space shuttle/space station and a portion of an Ariane 5 rocket body concluded it is not necessary to perform a Debris Avoidance Maneuver. The news was broadcast on NASA Television earlier this morning by NASA's Public Affairs commentator. Mission Control will tell the crews when they awake at 12:29 p.m. EDT

mahesh
2009-Sep-03, 05:57 PM
Thanks Swift, ...I mis-heard it as ...Ares test...
So anyway, it doesn't need to be done...

Must be, to do with the commentator calling the space protective zone surrounding the ISS,
a pizza box...got me dreaming and forget what was said.

01101001
2009-Sep-04, 12:09 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


Astronauts John "Danny" Olivas and Christer Fuglesang switched their spacesuits to battery power at 6:12 p.m. EDT to officially kick off a planned six-and-a-half-hour spacewalk to finish up the replacement of an ammonia coolant tank on the International Space Station.

The spacewalk began nearly an hour behind schedule because of time lost opening Olivas' helmet to re-snap a chin strap on his communications cap.

Coming up (times EDT):

05:19 PM: EVA-2 begins [underway, with a late start]
07:34 PM: ATA install
09:54 PM: Old ATA berthing
11:49 PM: EVA-2 ends

09/04:
01:30 AM: Mission status
03:59 AM: Crew sleep begins
04:00 AM: Daily highlights
09:30 AM: FD briefing
!1:59 AM: Crew wakeup
02:59 PM: Crew off duty
05:00 PM: Mission status
08:49 PM: Crew news conference

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-04, 01:04 AM
I heard about the debris thing. I'm glad to hear they don't have to do anything special.

mahesh
2009-Sep-04, 07:35 AM
'night 'night guys!
sleep tight
the space bug has already bitten you anyway...
don't need cure for that.

Nice to wake up to a day off. Just leave your shoes outside the door. I'll get them polished...

Thanks for all the hard work.

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-04, 08:43 PM
It was so strange to see Mr. Olivas doing for real what I pretended to do at Space Academy.

Polyrealastic Observer
2009-Sep-05, 01:27 AM
Do the EVA activities seem less rushed? I wonder if anything was trimmed in light of the past few "superman" missions, or if this crew was just gifted with a slim flightplan from the beginning. Fewer sliced gloves is good!

01101001
2009-Sep-05, 04:39 AM
Coming up (times EDT):

09/05:
03:59 AM: Crew sleep begins
04:00 AM: Daily highlights
09:30 AM: FD update
11:59 AM: Crew wakeup
04:49 PM: EVA-3 begins
11:19 PM: EVA-3 ends

01101001
2009-Sep-07, 04:08 PM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


Leonardo berthing on tap; farewell ceremony and hatch closure late today

The Discovery astronauts plan to detach the Leonardo cargo module from the International Space Station today and berth it in the shuttle's cargo bay for return to Earth. After a late-night farewell ceremony, hatches between the shuttle and station will be closed, setting the stage for undocking Tuesday.


Coming up (times EDT):

01:34 PM: MPLM egress
02:09 PM: PAO event
07:29 PM: MPLM demate
08:59 PM: MPLM berthing
09:00 PM: Mission status
10:29 PM: Farewell ceremony
10:44 PM: Hatch closure

09/08:
02:59 AM: Crew sleep begins
03:00 AM: Daily highlights
08:30 AM: FD update
10:59 AM: Crew wakeup

Edit: Forgot the links


NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))[/QUOTE]

Glom
2009-Sep-07, 04:30 PM
Since the MPLMs are mated to a standard port like the other modules in the US section, is there any difference between the level of attachment? Could say Columbus be removed as easily as an MPLM.

Antice
2009-Sep-07, 05:38 PM
I do not think so. not because there is any difference in the port. but there are exterior fittings on the permanent modules that are connected both to the module as well as other modules exteriors. quite a bit of assembly has been done after attachment on all the permanent modules.

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-08, 10:48 PM
So tomorrow is my first day of school and also the day the shuttle lands. So we're all going back to being ordinary after a great summer...

01101001
2009-Sep-09, 01:05 AM
STS-128 undocked from the ISS a couple of hours ago.

NASA Shuttle STS-128 Landing Ground Tracks (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.html)

Landing target:
2009, September 10, 1605 PDT, Thursday
2009, September 10, 1905 EDT, Thursday
2009, September 10, 2305 UTC, Thursday

1 day, 22 hours to landing

01101001
2009-Sep-09, 05:44 AM
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)

Likely rain and thunder for the cape, Thursday.

And Friday.

mahesh
2009-Sep-09, 08:45 AM
Thank you ZeroOne, for the updates and links...last couple of days I've been missing the action.


So tomorrow is my first day of school and also the day the shuttle lands. So we're all going back to being ordinary after a great summer...
Kai, so, it's been good to have you here. And good to know that you've had a wonderful summer. Wishing You Lots More Fun Iin Your Endeavours.

Hope that you have time to come visit and participate here, as you are fun to be around with.

mahesh
2009-Sep-09, 11:28 AM
Over the Southern Ocean...Discovery is descending now....about five miles from ISS and counting...

Can't see any of it on this slow browser...arf..

ToSeek
2009-Sep-09, 03:03 PM
Anyone else catch the guy in Mission Control gagging on the choice of wakeup music?

And who's the woman acting as capcom? Doesn't look like an astronaut.

Glom
2009-Sep-09, 05:01 PM
De-orbit at 10 in the evening. Way past my bed time.

mahesh
2009-Sep-09, 08:39 PM
C'mon, it's Friday / Weekend afterwards....you can catch up...
or are you on shift? ...

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-10, 01:00 AM
I'm not going away forever, I just won't be able to post as much, silly!

01101001
2009-Sep-10, 04:35 AM
Threat of rain Thursday and Friday at Kennedy continues. CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html):


"We had a great chance to look at the weather today as it was streaming into the Kennedy Space Center area. And you could kind of see some lines of convergence, streams of thunderstorms as they were coming into the area. But as they were coming in, you could definitely see some areas of dryness, or some clearing. Hopefully, that same condition will be there tomorrow. Now, it's going to be a little bit iffy in terms of whether that dryness will be there or not, but if it is, that could work in our favor."

The forecast for NASA's backup landing site at Edwards Air Force Base in California's Mojave Desert calls for good conditions for several days in a row.

Coming up (times EDT):

09/10:
02:59 AM: Crew sleep begins
03:00 AM: Daily highlights
10:59 AM: Crew wakeup
12:01 PM: [JAXA] HTV launch
03:00 PM: [NASA] Ares motor test fire
03:19 PM: Payload door close
03:45 PM: Ares motor briefing
05:59 PM: Deorbit burn
07:05 PM: Landing

Landing target:
2009, September 10, 1605 PDT, Thursday
2009, September 10, 1905 EDT, Thursday
2009, September 10, 2305 UTC, Thursday

18-1/2 hours to landing, maybe

Glom
2009-Sep-10, 11:06 AM
C'mon, it's Friday / Weekend afterwards....you can catch up...
or are you on shift? ...

No good to me. It's straight work for another 10 days.

mahesh
2009-Sep-10, 02:45 PM
Discovery...bay doors wide open, flying over the South Pacific and looping on the way to Southern Ocean...really beautiful footage of the clouds and patches of the blue ocean overhead....(feel funny, saying, ocean overhead..maybe I should say...overneath...)

mahesh
2009-Sep-10, 10:42 PM
This is from Spaceflight Now:
Quote:
2238 GMT (6:38 p.m. EDT)
The latest data from Mission Control shows the upcoming deorbit burn ignition time will be 7:35:37 p.m. EDT. The twin braking rockets will fire for two minutes and 38 seconds, slowing the shuttle enough to slip out of orbit. Touchdown on Runway 15 would occur at 8:40 p.m. EDT.

...less than an hour and one more after!!

Greetings! And Welcome Back, Discovery!

edit:
this is from Discovery...at Spaceflight Now chatroom...:
DISCOVERY: Good Morning N.Z! Looks if we are staying in orbit until tomorrow.

01101001
2009-Sep-11, 12:23 AM
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)


The Discovery astronauts were forced to pass up two landing opportunities Thursday because of dynamic, hard-to-predict weather at the Kennedy Space Center, delaying re-entry until Friday in hopes conditions will improve enough to permit a Florida landing.
[...]
Here are all of Discovery's landing opportunities through Saturday at both Kennedy and Edwards (all times in EDT):

ORBIT......DEORBIT.........LANDING.......SITE

09/11
217........04:45 PM........05:48 PM......Kennedy Space Center
218........06:21 PM........07:23 PM......KSC
219........07:50 PM........08:53 PM......Edwards Air Force Base
220........09:26 PM........10:28 PM......EDW

09/12
233........05:04 PM........06:08 PM......KSC
234........06:41 PM........07:43 PM......KSC
235........08:10 PM........09:13 PM......EDW
236........09:46 PM........10:48 PM......EDW

At least 21 hours to landing

Glom
2009-Sep-11, 12:06 PM
That's still in the evening. :mad:

mahesh
2009-Sep-11, 06:27 PM
First attempt [s]aborted...[s/] 'waved off' ...(better phrase...thanks NASA)

so...Spaceflight Now...
1810 GMT (2:10 p.m. EDT)
During this extra time now available to the crew with the first KSC landing option waved off, commander Rick Sturckow and pilot Kevin Ford are going to sharpen their flying skills by practicing runway approaches using a software program loaded onto a laptop.

Or, as is said in cricket....'batting practice'.....

edit:
Kennedy is overcast with broken clouds etc., (can't type fast...oops)...generally unfavourable conditions for landing there, tonight. they'll close the payload bay doors shortly and try Edwards...Runway 22.

19.25 hrs
Chances are, it'll be Edwards now, if landing tonight...where it's 'pristine and few clouds/light winds'...
buuut, haven't finalised on Kennedy yet.

mahesh
2009-Sep-11, 07:45 PM
Second attempt at Kennedy just waved off...
Re-direct to Edwards on orbit 219
de-orbit burn at four hours from now and touch down at five hours and four minutes from now...

This live communication twixt Mission Control and Discovery....oooh...lovely...blows me away...beautifully...like I'm up there...

mahesh
2009-Sep-11, 10:14 PM
Crew just about donning their launch/re-entry suits...now...

penultimate orbit before de-orbit burn

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-11, 10:25 PM
Oooh, let's go Edwards! I'll be watching!

mahesh
2009-Sep-11, 10:33 PM
Hey....happy for you Kai...
I'll miss...security reason compels to shut down about midnight (local)...so have about half an hour :(

watching Sf N and n2yo

edit:
Spaceflight Now:
2231 GMT (6:31 p.m. EDT)
The crew has been given a "go" to start the "fluid loading" protocol. That involves drinking large amounts of liquids and salt tablets to assist in the readaptation to Earth's gravity. Water, orange, lemon-lime and tropical punch drinks are on the menu for the astronauts to pick from today.

Crew suited and and strapping into their seats...:)
one hour / ten minutes to de-orbit burn...

Swift
2009-Sep-11, 10:45 PM
From NASA.gov

Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:42:59 PM EDT


Mission Control has decided to target Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., for today's landing since the weather at Kennedy is unstable. The deorbit burn is timelined to begin at 7:47 p.m. EDT for an 8:53 p.m. landing at Edwards. The burn lasts three to four minutes, slowing Discovery enough to begin its descent.

slang
2009-Sep-11, 10:48 PM
That's a little under one hour from now, right? (the burn, that is)

slang
2009-Sep-11, 11:42 PM
Some 5 minutes to de-orbit burn. A convoy of vehicles driving to runway.

slang
2009-Sep-11, 11:49 PM
Ground tracks here (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.html), I think we're looking at "Deorbit to EDW on Orbit 219".

Burn started, two good engines

slang
2009-Sep-11, 11:52 PM
"Good burn, no trim required". Discovery's on her way down. Entry Interface (start of significant interaction with atmosphere) about 32 minutes from now.

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:12 AM
Ground tracks here (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.html), I think we're looking at "Deorbit to EDW on Orbit 219".

11 minutes to entry interface.

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/385650main_sts128_edw219_long_thum.gif (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/385649main_sts128_edw219_long.gif)

They're still trying to figure out which end of the runway to use.

About 41 minutes to touchdown.

Zvezdichko
2009-Sep-12, 12:29 AM
Discovery entered the atmosphere.

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:32 AM
Roughly near the equator.

Detailed landing track (from Landing Tracks (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/news/landing.html)):

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/385652main_sts128_edw219_mid_thum.gif (http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/385651main_sts128_edw219_mid.gif)

Approaching North America.

Link farm:

NASA Space Shuttle Mission Pages (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Status Updates (http://www.nasa.gov/rss/128_update.xml)
NASA STS-128 Mission Information (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/index.html)
NASA STS-128 Mission Overview (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/shuttlemissions/sts128/mission_overview.html)
NASA News Twitter (http://twitter.com/nasa)
Wikipedia: STS-128 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/STS-128)
NASA Launch Schedule (http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html)
NASA Kennedy Space Center Shuttle Countdown Status (http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/cdt_main.pl)
NASA Shuttle Launch and Landing (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/index.html)
NASA Shuttle Launch Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/launch_blog.html) (active about 6 hours before liftoff)
NASA Shuttle Landing Blog (http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/launch/landing_blog.html) (active about 2 hours before touchdown)
National Weather Service, Southeast Sector, Base Reflectivity (http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/southeast_loop.php)
National Weather Service, Melbourne Florida, Hourly Weather Forecast Graph (http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=Melbourne&state=FL&site=MLB&textField1=28.084&textField2=-80.609&e=1&FcstType=graphical)
CBS News Space Place (http://www.cbsnews.com/network/news/space/current.html)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Coverage (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/)
Spaceflight Now STS-128 Mission Status Center (http://www.spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/sts128/status.html)
BANews Twitter (http://twitter.com/BANews)
BAUT Forum topic STS-127 Shuttle Mission (http://www.bautforum.com/space-exploration/88671-sts-127-shuttle-mission.html) (previous mission)
NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html) (or NASA TV Yahoo! source (http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/nasa/index.html) or high-resolution (http://playlist.yahoo.com/makeplaylist.dll?id=1368163))[/QUOTE]

Landing at 54 minutes past the hour.

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:32 AM
Runway 22 it remains.

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:35 AM
Mach 21

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:43 AM
TACAN (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TACAN) and GPS data used.

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:44 AM
Mach 7

10 minutes to touchdown

approaching California

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:47 AM
Over land

78 miles to go

15 miles altitude

weather benign

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:49 AM
Fingers in ears, Cali! Perhaps the sonic booms will blow out any remaining fires... (oh well, one can dream)

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:49 AM
5.5 minutes

long-range cameras have it

almost subsonic

NASA TV (http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html)

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:50 AM
In view from ground cameras

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:51 AM
boom-boom

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:52 AM
Beautiful wingtip vortices

slang
2009-Sep-12, 12:55 AM
Picture perfect landing, IMHO. Welcome home, Discovery and crew.

"Wheels stopped"

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 12:55 AM
Home again

Zvezdichko
2009-Sep-12, 12:58 AM
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4452/landing3.png (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/landing3.png/)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/642/landing9.png (http://img186.imageshack.us/i/landing9.png/)

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/4361/landing14.png (http://img170.imageshack.us/i/landing14.png/)

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/6954/landing15.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/landing15.png/)

And several shots

Musashi
2009-Sep-12, 01:01 AM
boom-boom

I love getting to hear this!

01101001
2009-Sep-12, 01:15 AM
And several shots.

Thanks much.

She's too pretty to kill.

Glom
2009-Sep-12, 06:33 AM
Watching the video, the PAO said the mission was to resupply nand fortify ISS. Did they install weaponry on it?

mahesh
2009-Sep-12, 02:33 PM
I watched it (a recording) this morning. Landing is gorgeous. Beautiful.

Quote, Spaceflight Now:
0240 GMT (10:40 p.m. EDT Fri.)
The astronauts will be heading back to Johnson Space Center where a welcoming ceremony in Houston at Ellington Field's Hangar 990 is scheduled for 4 p.m. local time on Saturday. The public is invited to attend.

mahesh
2009-Sep-12, 02:36 PM
Watching the video, the PAO said the mission was to resupply nand fortify ISS. Did they install weaponry on it?

Only Fortified Port, Glom

KaiYeves
2009-Sep-12, 06:43 PM
Watching the video, the PAO said the mission was to resupply nand fortify ISS. Did they install weaponry on it?
No, they gave it vitamins. ;-)

I watched the landing with my mom and dad. Even when all you can see is a little red dot on a green line, it's compelling.