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brink
2009-Aug-27, 12:30 AM
Hey Let's prove there's really a binary star in our solar system. The truth must be known, scientific America must not corrupt us any longer.

V838: http://translate.google.es/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstarviewer.wordpress.com% 2F2009%2F08%2F18%2Finforme-sobre-lo-acontecido-ayer%2F&sl=es&tl=en&hl=es&ie=UTF-8

"It happens also that I am an astrophysicist and that chance, too, have observed and studied quite extensively V838 Monocerotis. Of course, not supposed to be a supernova, or an explosion, but a light echo of a variable star, which erupted in early 2002 and then was monitored by many telescopes in the world."

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/269/v838monint.jpg


1983 News Article Proof:
http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/desde-1983-nasa-sabe-que-nuestro-sistema-solar-es-binario-evidencias-cientificas-batalla-por-la-verdad-x-misterio-resuelto/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjhLzZ1H_7tcMNoxF_mrJQfivOdGw

But of course brother.. Let me help you. You may say this is only 1 source.. perhaps the only source "ballsy" enough to research this topic. A group of 200 astronomers like yourself, that don't work for scumbag "NASA".. Never A Straight Answer.. The guys at NASA joke about it daily I bet.


http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/06/18/nuestro-sistema-solar-es-binario-evidencias-cientificas-i20/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjODFP7jtshuzl1xPg8Q3K0UEoeag

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http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/14/estudiando-las-enanas-marrones-referencias-y-datos-basicos-i/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjQX937W4TcySnSkkpYK-sp2JtT3A

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/16/nasa-reconoce-que-el-cinturon-de-asteroides-puede-haberse-formado-muy-lejos-del-sol/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjw3ROwlIXMs_OKqpumvNxxuSNkmg

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/localizada-la-enana-marron-cerca-de-pluton-la-otra-verdad-del-40th-aniversario/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhiSauXbqO7caUNhuOho17E3-LLyFw

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/20/reflexionando-sobre-los-datos-de-los-ultimos-dos-meses-%25C2%25BFque-esta-sucediendo/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhgly_AFphYFLWJu28dOSOil8qOf5A

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/la-astronomia-no-oficial-es-la-que-esta-alertando-a-la-nasa-%25C2%25BFque-nos-estan-ocultando/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhgLI8APK1Bxpch1QMzc8LDg0OYjBg

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/la-carta-original-del-dr-murray-hace-20-anos-no-le-hicieron-ni-caso/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhhkrkqKnb8s-D3ulf2BWpvwnqUomg

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/07/31/analisis-de-los-patrones-de-colision-de-los-asteroides-en-oort-documento-de-trabajo-ni/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhgYA6CjaHVouPFyo4UaaSCTLoFSNA

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/08/02/analisis-de-g1-90-3-espectros-infrared-microondas-rayos-x-hoja-de-trabajo-n-ii/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjr6mrFulG_497in2a6sSRACThsOw

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/en-la-batalla-por-la-verdad-parte-viireescribiendo-la-ciencia/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjMPdZTs6nRcTkvg7TSSgcGKC9siA

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/desde-1983-nasa-sabe-que-nuestro-sistema-solar-es-binario-evidencias-cientificas-batalla-por-la-verdad-x-misterio-resuelto/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhjhLzZ1H_7tcMNoxF_mrJQfivOdGw

http://74.125.65.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://starviewer.wordpress.com/2009/08/11/hoja-de-trabajo-niv-empieza-a-verse-venir-los-anillos-de-saturno-anomalia-muy-reciente/&rurl=translate.google.es&usg=ALkJrhiOItk5Mln8LgPdSJqcABTsJeuu3g

Poor, Poor buddys.. NASA is a lie.

Gillianren
2009-Aug-27, 12:35 AM
How about smaller images?

Better yet, how about using something other than images for whatever point it is you're trying to make?

brink
2009-Aug-27, 12:37 AM
How about smaller images?

Better yet, how about using something other than images for whatever point it is you're trying to make?


There you go... it's smaller for you.

Apparently the only way to show you "scientists" are by pictures, because every website you claim to be conspiracy..

Starviewer is a group of 200 astronomers just like yourself. They are not conspiracy theorists.

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 12:38 AM
Brink why do you feel the need to repeat yourself all the time?
What makes you think the image in your photo is a UFO?

As far as your double star scenario......I think not.

Also please stop with the bashing of America,as i mentioned in your other thread there are also alot of people from other continent's that do not agree with you.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 12:40 AM
Brink why do you feel the need to repeat yourself all the time?
What makes you think the image in your photo is a UFO?

As far as your double star scenario......I think not.

Also please stop with the bashing of America,as i mentioned in your other thread there are also alot of people from other continent's that do not agree with you.

There is nothing else has shines bright lights in broad daylight.. Planets don't make a V shape.


I am from America and I want this country to understand, I want our country to progress.. I want us to stop this and I don't want this to end like a paperback story.. How can we progress if the world doesn't know the truth?

Our Sun is to small to be a solo star... astronomers.. You know this!!

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 12:49 AM
There is nothing else has shines bright lights in broad daylight.. Planets don't make a V shape.


I am from America and I want this country to understand, I want our country to progress.. I want us to stop this and I don't want this to end like a paperback story.. How can we progress if the world doesn't know the truth?

Our Sun is to small to be a solo star... astronomers.. You know this!!

how sure can you be,that nothing else on this planet can shine that bright in broad daylight?

You are saying America is not telling the truth,But what will happen if your idea isn't all that its cracked up to be?

I dont believe that if there is a genuine UFO report/sighting ,that there is anything the government can do to stop it from getting out.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 12:51 AM
how sure can you be,that nothing else on this planet can shine that bright in broad daylight?

You are saying America is not telling the truth,But what will happen if your idea isn't all that its cracked up to be?

I dont believe that if there is a genuine UFO report/sighting ,that there is anything the government can do to stop it from getting out.

You are sadly mistaken.. The government has people believing that UFOs do not exist, my parents are christian and they laugh at the idea of a "UFO" or "ET"

Hey buddys, there's 500 billion galaxies in the universe... and we're alone? Give me a break.

Let me run this across you.. 70%+ of the US is Christian, 50% of the US believes in UFOs... Therefore the majority of the people that don't believe in ETs are christian..

Pathetic how religion has corrupted our minds

brink
2009-Aug-27, 12:54 AM
how sure can you be,that nothing else on this planet can shine that bright in broad daylight?

You are saying America is not telling the truth,But what will happen if your idea isn't all that its cracked up to be?

I dont believe that if there is a genuine UFO report/sighting ,that there is anything the government can do to stop it from getting out.

Another thing that really makes me upset is how the government ever has astronomers corrupted to the point where they don't even look for the "unbelievable".. if they were to find it, they would most likely be threatened with death.

Obama and his minions really have this country in the gutter, similar to the ghetto in Memphis where I live.. I want to progress, I want to explore other galaxies.. But this is what happens when you believe in religion..

NASA says they "can't" return to the moon even by 2028.. This is so upsetting that it makes me want to cry.. Why has our world come to this ladies and gentlemen..
http://commonsenseatheism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/darkages.gif

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 12:56 AM
...

Apparently the only way to show you "scientists" are by pictures, because every website you claim to be conspiracy.

You sent us to one web site and asserted that the information there came from credible, qualified authors. When you were asked to substantiate their credibility and qualifications, you could not. The authors themselves characterized their work as outside the mainstream, and somewhat contentious with it. You can't simply misrepresent your sources and expect not to be taken to task for it. We can read.

Our Sun is to small to be a solo star... astronomers.. You know this!!

Actually it is pretty well known that our solar system cannot be binary. You can't simply have unaccounted stellar masses lying around without incurring massive effects on any one who tries to fly a spacecraft in space.

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 12:56 AM
Don't twist the fact that because there are X amount of galaxies that life should exist to leave there surroundings from these galaxies...if life exists at all outside of earth.
I have my opinion on life outside the SS,But then i fall back and realize how difficult a trip outside the galaxy must be with the distance's involved along with other obstacle's that must be overcomed.

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 12:58 AM
Hey buddys, there's 500 billion galaxies in the universe... and we're alone? Give me a break.

Disputing the claim that things seen in the sky are alien spacecraft is not the same as claiming we are alone in the universe. You can't distinguish between claims of visitation and claims of existence. They are two very different scenarios governed by two very different sets of mathematics.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:00 AM
Apparently the only way to show you "scientists" are by pictures, because every website you claim to be conspiracy.

You sent us to one web site and asserted that the information there came from credible, qualified authors. When you were asked to substantiate their credibility and qualifications, you could not. The authors themselves characterized their work as outside the mainstream, and somewhat contentious with it. You can't simply misrepresent your sources and expect not to be taken to task for it. We can read.

Our Sun is to small to be a solo star... astronomers.. You know this!!

Actually it is pretty well known that our solar system cannot be binary. You can't simply have unaccounted stellar masses lying around without incurring massive effects on any one who tries to fly a spacecraft in space.


Ok there has been plenty of reported cases of satellites and space ships having "unexplained" and "strange" forces acting upon them when they are launched into space..

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080229-spacecraft-anomaly.html

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:01 AM
Planets don't make a V shape.

The V shape comes from a long shutter speed. See how the rest of the picture is heavily motion-blurred? I too use an iPhone for photography and am not very impressed by its often too-long shutter speeds. It's a point light source made into a "path" by the motion of the camera.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:01 AM
Don't twist the fact that because there are X amount of galaxies that life should exist to leave there surroundings from these galaxies...if life exists at all outside of earth.
I have my opinion on life outside the SS,But then i fall back and realize how difficult a trip outside the galaxy must be with the distance's involved along with other obstacle's that must be overcomed.


Aww poor baby... of course you can use my black hole to travel outside this little solar system!!

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2003/04/58359

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:02 AM
The V shape comes from a long shutter speed. See how the rest of the picture is heavily motion-blurred? I too use an iPhone for photography and am not very impressed by its often too-long shutter speeds. It's a point light source made into a "path" by the motion of the camera.

Actually iPhone 3G S with Update 3.1 is instant shutter speeds. I can take non stop pictures now.. Good try though ultimate debunkz0r.

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 01:04 AM
Ok there has been plenty of reported cases of satellites and space ships having "unexplained" and "strange" forces acting upon them when they are launched into space..

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/080229-spacecraft-anomaly.html

Doesn't necessarily mean ET is responsible for such anomalies.
A better understanding in Physic's would help the UFOligist's alot.

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 01:05 AM
Aww poor baby... of course you can use my black hole to travel outside this little solar system!!

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2003/04/58359

My point exactly.... a better understanding in physic's would help alot more

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:06 AM
Doesn't necessarily mean ET is responsible for such anomalies.
A better understanding in Physic's would help the UFOligist's alot.

I completely agree, ETs are not responsible for this anomaly.

That would be "The Dwarf Star's" job.


Let's make the whole world propaganda!! Woohoo!!

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:06 AM
Actually iPhone 3G S with Update 3.1 is instant shutter speeds. I can take non stop pictures now.. Good try though ultimate debunkz0r.

No. I have that same hardware and software. You are wrong.

Further the evidence of motion blur is in the image itself.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:07 AM
My point exactly.... a better understanding in physic's would help alot more

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/blackhole-03c.html

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/blackhole_travel_030404.html

Van Rijn
2009-Aug-27, 01:10 AM
"It happens also that I am an astrophysicist and that chance, too, have observed and studied quite extensively V838 Monocerotis.


V838 Moncerotis is close to 20,000 light years from the sun. Makes for pretty pictures, though.

Do you have a claim about it that you're going to present here, in this thread?

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:10 AM
No. I have that same hardware and software. You are wrong.

Further the evidence of motion blur is in the image itself.


Next time when I record a video of this type of object you will have a different excuse, let's get on the real topic.

So, There's a Binary star in our solar system..


Discuss? Let's make sure to use "buzz words" and "ultimate debunk guide #125" to debunk this buddy.

I'm sure it's just as fun to debunk the truth as it is to know the truth..

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:10 AM
Ok there has been plenty of reported cases of satellites and space ships having "unexplained" and "strange" forces acting upon them when they are launched into space..

Nope. Several orders of magnitude too small to be the result of an unaccounted stellar mass.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:10 AM
V838 Moncerotis is close to 20,000 light years from the sun. Makes for pretty pictures, though.

Do you have a claim about it that you're going to present here, in this thread?

My claim is that the Sun is part of a binary star system.

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:11 AM
Next time when I record a video of this type of object you will have a different excuse, let's get on the real topic.

Do you still maintain that the V shape is anomalous? Or do you accept that it is most likely the product of motion blur?

Van Rijn
2009-Aug-27, 01:12 AM
My claim is that the Sun is part of a binary star system.

Okay. What's your evidence?

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:12 AM
Do you still maintain that the V shape is anomalous? Or do you accept that it is most likely the product of motion blur?

Fine the V could be motion blur, never really took in to account that the rest of the picture is rather blurry.

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:13 AM
Okay. What's your evidence?

http://translate.google.es/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstarviewer.wordpress.com% 2F2009%2F08%2F18%2Finforme-sobre-lo-acontecido-ayer%2F&sl=es&tl=en&hl=es&ie=UTF-8


I guess Star Viewer will have evidence soon, they are going to prove once and for all if it's real.. Can't wait for the results!

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:14 AM
Fine the V could be motion blur, never really took in to account that the rest of the picture is rather blurry.

So you have a distant bright point. What makes this photograph remarkable in any way?

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:15 AM
...

I guess Star Viewer will have evidence soon...

Do you have any evidence at the present time?

robross
2009-Aug-27, 01:15 AM
Your "UFO" picture looks like either a plane or a bird to me. That's a pretty giant stretch to assume it's a spaceship from outer space.

It would not be the first thing that popped into most people's heads when they asked themselves " I wonder what that is?"

Rob

Van Rijn
2009-Aug-27, 01:17 AM
I guess Star Viewer will have evidence soon, they are going to prove once and for all if it's real.. Can't wait for the results!

Okay, so I assume from this that you have no evidence. Correct?

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 01:17 AM
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I guess Star Viewer will have evidence soon, they are going to prove once and for all if it's real.. Can't wait for the results!

So in otherword's you have nothing to present for your case...is that correct?

brink
2009-Aug-27, 01:19 AM
I guess Star Viewer will have evidence soon...

Do you have any evidence at the present time?

But of course brother.. Let me help you. You may say this is only 1 source.. perhaps the only source "ballsy" enough to research this topic. A group of 200 astronomers like yourself, that don't work for scumbag "NASA".. Never A Straight Answer.. The guys at NASA joke about it daily I bet.


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Poor, Poor buddys.. NASA is a lie.

sohh_fly
2009-Aug-27, 01:26 AM
20 000ly away is a pretty big binary,like 1/5 the size of the galaxy.
That doesn't make sense,when there are 1000's of other star's our sun could have played with.

Your sure you want to continue with this logic?

R.A.F.
2009-Aug-27, 01:28 AM
Brink, you're "trying" too hard. In your last handful of posts you have managed to bash NASA, introduce politics and religion, and even post condescendingly to other posters.

At this rate, you'll "burn-out" before morning.

Perhaps a review of board rules would be helpful.

JayUtah
2009-Aug-27, 01:28 AM
But of course brother.. Let me help you. You may say this is only 1 source.

Asked and answered. I don't accept "starviewer" as a qualified source, since it's anonymous and you are unwilling or unable to name them.

I didn't ask whether "starviewer" had evidence; you've already said proof from them is forthcoming. I asked whether you had any evidence. If you're simply waiting for someone else to make a claim, then I daresay you don't know of any evidence that applies to the claims you're making here.

Van Rijn
2009-Aug-27, 01:29 AM
But of course brother.. Let me help you.


I didn't ask for your blog links. I asked for your evidence. Can you go through an argument here, and present evidence for your argument here?

Van Rijn
2009-Aug-27, 01:32 AM
Asked and answered. I don't accept "starviewer" as a qualified source, since it's anonymous and you are unwilling or unable to name them.

I didn't ask whether "starviewer" had evidence; you've already said proof from them is forthcoming. I asked whether you had any evidence. If you're simply waiting for someone else to make a claim, then I daresay you don't know of any evidence that applies to the claims you're making here.

Heh, I think we're echoing each other, so I'll step out of the discussion for a bit.

dgavin
2009-Aug-27, 01:50 AM
Brink,

If i'm not mistaken (and jay will probably correct me if i am) the only missing mass that we know should be out there due to gravitational effects is about 3 Jupiter masses.

At one time it was felt there was some evidence for such an object at about 25,000au orbital distance. However that was since disproven by the same scientists thet thought they had found it.

Irregardless, even if Sol's missing mass is al together in a sigle place, it would simple be a large Jupiter sized planet, and not a brown drawrf. Brown dwarfs ar around 12 times jupiter mass, or more.

Moose
2009-Aug-27, 01:53 AM
brink had been suspended for again engaging in ad homs and religious commentary. Then immediately attempted to return as a sock puppet. The suspension has been converted into a permanent ban, subject to the usual review.

Since the subject is no longer able to respond, I've closed the thread (or rather, will in a moment). If there's a compelling reason to reopen it, please PM a mod or use the report function.