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    Hi Swift, how are you?
    I just thought I'd pop in, and I have noticed you have attracted some strange messages.
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    What a long post you've attracted.
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    They closed my thread for not being scientific enough about space and astronomy so i'll answer you in a message:

    Originally Posted by BLUEELECTRICMONKEY View Post
    I don't believe anything natural will happen on that date.
    No extra chance for an earthquake.
    Maybe people will try to something, because the date is being watched, but this will just prove my theory even more.
    Dates affect people, not nature.
    Calenders are designed in accord with cycles of nature, not in accord with natural disasters. They don't affect nature directly, but they can cause some people to feel somethings, sometimes.
    Ok. That makes slightly more sense to me, that people may be psychologically influenced by certain dates/numbers. I'm not sure I agree, but it is possible. I would suspect this would be very cultural - that in certain cultures some numbers are "lucky" and others are not.

    I also think that pareidolia is a big part of it - humans look for patterns, even when none exist. If something bad happens on the date 11/11/11 or 07/07/07 (or pick your pattern), we are more like to remember the date and think there is some significance to it, even if it is random chance. But there is no higher chance of something bad happening on September 11 than on July 15.

    Let's think about this like this:
    It is Pareidolia.
    All over the world people try to find their number connections using pareidolia, some more, some less, some always, some never.
    If humans associate destruction with numbers only using pareidolia, after a few thousand years, you can have two options:
    1. If some numbers are indeed more connected to destruction for the mind, globally, they will appear in more cases of pareidolia. If those numbers are not connected to a specific language, they will appear in more cases of pareidolia in different cultures with different language.
    2. If all numbers are equally subject to pareidolia as far as destruction goes,
    people will find it hard to agree on any set of numbers.

    Now, what does the process of pareidolia want to accomplish ?
    It wants to give a symbolic meaning to a number.
    Let's look at a peridoliac person from the outside.
    He tells you "4's makes me love things, 4 is all about love for me, all the girls I loved had so much 4's in their names and lives" and so on.
    He says: 4 symbolizes love. (and he can add: to me, to you, to everyone, to our people, to men, for now at least, and so on, while the common to all saying, is giving a symbolic meaning to a number, which is not a mathematical meaning).
    All over the world, all cases of pareidolia, are trying to do that.
    Now, if a 9/11 combo somehow means destruction for enough people.
    (This could be very subtle, even if out of 100 cases, only 5 are a 9/11 combo, if it's the most common combo in the list, it's the one with the most accumulating affect, over thousands of years)
    what will happen with a "natural" process of pareidolia ?
    The symbol will be more accepted as a symbol of destruction.
    Right now, the 9/11 concept is a symbol of destruction in the language, and in more than one calender.
    From all possible pariedolia going on, that's the one that convinced most people to see some symbolic connection, consciously, between a 9/11 combo in the year, and with destruction.
    How does this match the nowadays ?
    Why is from all dates of destruction only the 9.11 is remembered with the date, and with the combo ? why is there so much pareidolia about it than ever before ? why can't we explain the 2012 obsessions saying that in this period of time, dates are more charming than ever which causes a specific stream of pareidolia ?
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