Fair question, but watch the follow-up comments to pick out the people posting the rudest comments and the 20-page theses. Incels are the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
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Fair question, but watch the follow-up comments to pick out the people posting the rudest comments and the 20-page theses. Incels are the worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
I'm betting most are sincere. Unearned power privilege is a hell of a drug.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
I wonder how they would fair splitting wood in 30 C heat, tilling soil with a hundred blackflies and mosquitoes around them, lift heavy furniture, carry a heavy stick of fir brush on their backs or walk in waist high snow for the fun of it. Most of them would do it for five minutes think it is miller time and think they are tougher than everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noclevername
It's not that they think they could do those things (and most of them do think that), it's that they feel superior because they assume women can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Backroad Astronomer
ADDED: Personally, I don't think physical abilities have anything to do with personal merit, but some folks do.
Got a link?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger E. Moore
You want to read the comments section... on purpose? Bold choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
"Linda Hamilton" sounds so manly... said no one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gillianren
lol.
Let's be clear, though, that whether you like a movie or not is based on subjective criteria, and people can dislike or even hate this movie without being bigots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roger E. Moore
I don't have a Facebook account, I don't comment on YouTube, and this movie wasn't a big deal for me. That said, when I originally saw the trailer I wasn't impressed - it looked like they were telling essentially the same story, slightly modernized, and the only real selling point was that they gender-swapped the main characters. I would have been far more interested if instead they had second generation ghostbusters with a somewhat different story.
I eventually saw it on cable, and I didn't see reason to change my opinion. I thought it was "okay." Not terrible, not great. I liked it about as much as Ghostbusters II (which also seemed to me to be a retread of the first movie).
Of course that's entirely subjective. I think it's entirely fine whether someone likes or dislikes this movie.
But I guess one thing that bugs me is that there are certain things you can't seem to criticize today without invoking a list of certain bigots. What annoyed me regarding this movie was the nature of the argument. Yes, in this case, there were people who clearly didn't like the movie because of bigotry, but even in the short time I looked at a few debates on this movie, I saw many people being accused of being bigots simply for saying they didn't like the movie.
And there are also many, many bigots. (And they usually make it clear within seconds of criticizing the movie, why they're criticizing the movie, and it ain't because of the jokes.) They drown out the actual constructive criticisms with their venom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Van Rijn
Sure, some people are going to lump together all those who voice less than glowing opinions of the film or any female-lead projects. It's wrong, but there is if not a valid excuse, then at least understandable motivation for that; that the apologists and defenders of such works are so used to hearing the same vitriol couched as criticism that they now have a knee jerk reaction against it all.
I see a lot of "lumping together" on the internet, by different sides of different subjects. It's one reason why I wouldn't bother getting into discussions on major social media sites. There seems to be far too much of people just yelling at each other, making unsupported claims about each other, and not listening to each other. I think it tends to lead to polarization, since people who tend to take more moderate positions just give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noclevername
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Van Rijn
(I was going to mock-argue as a joke but it's really not funny. Or trivial.)
I'm just curious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noclevername
Gillian's original post even started with "Apparently," so I'm assuming she hasn't actually seen any significant number of these complaints, but she's seen complaints about these complaints.
A couple years ago, there was (apparently!) a controversy regarding Starbucks' Christmas cups being too secular, but I never actually heard (or read) anybody say "These cups are too secular!" All I heard was people saying, "What's wrong with these people who think these cups are too secular?!"
Apparently you’re not watching the right news channel. :whistle:Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
And that’s about as far as we can take it.
Frankly, if you're trolling bigotry, I'm perfectly okay with lumping you in with the bigots. Whether the people who drove Kelly Marie Tran off social media genuinely cared about having an Asian woman in Star Wars or not doesn't change that they were willing to pretend they did, and at a certain point, the distinction is unimportant.
As it happens, I don't read any of the places where these arguments would come up. No interest in giving them the clicks.
I live in a very conservative part of the country, and I hear the complaints first hand and all too often. And cups are the least of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanF
And that's all I can say here.
My computer mouse is dying. Gotta get a new one.
Too bad it didn't have any babies before getting sick. Otherwise you could have used one of them. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Noclevername
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Originally Posted by Jens
He'll be here all week, don't forget to tip those waiters.
Computer mice can live a long time if well-cared-for, and enjoy cheese just like other mice:
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I wore out the rear tyre on my bicycle and got it replaced. Within 7 days I had my first puncture for 3 years - on that wheel and it was on the side of the tube. It then took me two goes to get a patch to stick. It is possible that they pinched the thorn resistant tube when they replaced the tyre but you can't really tell.
I stumbled across the self-proclaimed "flagship podcast" of the Baltimore Sun newspaper about last year's flooding in Ellicott City, Maryland.
A few sentences into the podcast, the producer says, "Me and the producer went to..."
Really? I can (barely) accept that construction in informal conversation, but this is the "flagship podcast" of a major city newspaper. Ugh!.
Ugh indeed. Compound pronouns infuriate me, because so many people get them wrong and it's so easy to get them right. Just think what it would be with only one of the parties. Would the producer ever have said "Me went to..."? Of course not. But people who would never say "Me went to" or "him went to" are constantly coming up with "me and him went to".
Years ago, I actually stopped listening to a particular radio station because they were constantly playing a song that included the line "for she and I".
On top of the wrong pronoun, was the fact that she listed herself first. I had it drilled into me that you always list yourself last as a show of respect for the other parties.
But in today’s age of narcissism, I shouldn’t expect anything different.
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Unfortunately, because so many people get it wrong, you hear it everywhere. And if you construct your sentences based on what 'sounds right' then you'll often repeat the error just because it's so familiar.
Yup. And having a large media outlet repeat it only amplifies and confirms it as "correct": Well, if the newspaper lady says it that way, it must be right!Quote:
Originally Posted by jamesabrown
I was once a magazine editor for a periodical with a pass-along readership of a quarter million. As editor, I made my entire staff read everything I wrote to ensure that nothing I wrote had any errors in it. It's the only way.
Poetic license. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trebuchet
(I wonder what song you're thinking of. "Life is a Highway" includes the line "There was a distance between you and I," same problem).
^ That one irritates me. I don't see any poetic justification for it. Sure, "I" rhymes with "eye", but given the pace and timing of that part of the song, and the lack of rhyme elsewhere in the lyrics, it's unimportant. It's just poor English.
You must love "Redemption Song" then. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trebuchet
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Originally Posted by SeanF
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Originally Posted by Torsten
Not familiar with those. I also stopped listening to the station for a while when they kept playing a song called "Burns like a Rocket" for about four days after 28 January 1986, and permanently when they were playing a racist piece of (insert bad word here) by Hank Williams Jr. It was a country and western station, of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jens