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    The Gravitational Field Lines Are the railway of the Photons

    The gravitational Field Lines Conduct the Photons


    Very Simple, Direct Decisive Evidence


    Can the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field account well for the morphology of the spread of light? Can the behavior of the gravitational field lines explain the behavior of the light rays?
    Let us see.
    1- The gravitational field performs its spread in straight lines.
    What about the spread of light?
    Light also spreads or travels in straight lines (light rays seem straight).
    2- The gravitational field lines spread spherically.
    Light spreads spherically, either.
    1- "Field lines do not start or stop in empty. They end on a mass and extend back all the way to infinity."
    What about the start and stop of light?
    Light rays also do not start or stop in empty. They end on a mass and extend back all the way to infinity. However, the images of the objects in the mirrors disclose the same behavior.
    4- "The gravitational field lines never cross."
    Do the rays of light cross?
    No, the rays from the light source seem not to cross each other whatever the distance they travel.
    5- "The gravitational field strength at a point in a field is independent of the mass placed there. Thus, two objects of different mass placed at the same point in the field will experience the same field strength."

    What about the intensity of light?
    It is well established that all the surfaces which have equal distances from the point source of light receive the same intensity of light whatever the masses of their bodies are different.

    6- "The field lines become more spread out as the distance from the object increases, indicating the diminishing strength of the field."
    Do light rays become more spread out as the distance from the emitter increases, indicating the diminishing intensity of the light?
    Doubtlessly, light rays behave in the same manner.

    7- The gravitational field is 3-dimensional.
    Also, light waves are three dimensional. They vibrate in all planes around a center line.

    8- The strength of the gravitational field is an 'inverse square law'- showing quantity.

    What about the intensity of light? Does the inverse square law apply to the intensity of light?
    Yes, the intensity of light is also an 'inverse square law'- showing quantity.

    So far, one becomes inclined to ask: Why is there a complete conformity between the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field and the morphology of the spread of light?
    Obviously, there is a complete conformity, because the spread of one of them is achieved and governed by the spread of the other. No doubt, the permanent conducts the transient. Thus, the ducts, as rivers and canals, conduct water. As well, the railway allows the train to translate. Analogously, the gravitational field lines must be the conducts of the photons because they are permanent meanwhile the light is transient.
    In short, there is a complete conformity between the spread of light rays and the spread of the gravitational field lines, because the photons translate along the gravitational field lines of the emitter. The gravitational field lines are the 'railway of the photons'.

    So far, can the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field account well for the morphology of the spread of light?

    Yes, surely speaking, the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field accounts well for the morphology of the spread of light. Therefore, the photons travel in, or along, the gravitational field lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    Yes, surely speaking, the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field accounts well for the morphology of the spread of light. Therefore, the photons travel in, or along, the gravitational field lines.
    No, they travel along the null geodesics. After reading the post, I'm pretty sure you'll have to agree that there is a difference, and that the difference makes your post wrong. Gravitational field lines as you present them seem to be three dimensional Newtonian concepts.

    And, of course, light beams cross each other all the time, just shine two flashlights.

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    Photon-photon scattering seems to blow a hole in that little theory. Even if they start off following a geodesic they certainly don't at the end - and no pesky matter around to complicate things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    Can the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field account well for the morphology of the spread of light? Can the behavior of the gravitational field lines explain the behavior of the light rays?
    Let us see.
    1- The gravitational field performs its spread in straight lines.
    What about the spread of light?
    Light also spreads or travels in straight lines (light rays seem straight).
    Define straight. In General Relativity, straight lines are the distance between two events that has the maximum proper time. This statement, question,statement is ambiguous.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    2- The gravitational field lines spread spherically.
    Light spreads spherically, either.
    It does? Tell that to my flashlight or laser pointer. However, while in all probability it's too small to measure, the gravitation effect of the flashlight does spread spherically.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    3- "Field lines do not start or stop in empty. They end on a mass and extend back all the way to infinity."
    What about the start and stop of light?
    Light rays also do not start or stop in empty. They end on a mass and extend back all the way to infinity. However, the images of the objects in the mirrors disclose the same behavior.
    First off, I'm assuming you meant to place a space after the empty. However, GR does not have field lines. It has a warpage of spacetime. So, there really isn't a anything to start or stop. Oh and both the way, gravity is the result of energy and pressure, not mass.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    4- "The gravitational field lines never cross."
    Do the rays of light cross?
    No, the rays from the light source seem not to cross each other whatever the distance they travel.
    Actually, they can. Photon-Photon interactions are possible and do happen. Not very likely, but that does show that light rays cross.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    6- "The field lines become more spread out as the distance from the object increases, indicating the diminishing strength of the field."
    Do light rays become more spread out as the distance from the emitter increases, indicating the diminishing intensity of the light?
    Doubtlessly, light rays behave in the same manner.
    Actualy, in gravity, there is less warpage the further you get from the energy-pressure. For light, there are fewer photons per volume, which means a lesser intensity. Note the difference


    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    7- The gravitational field is 3-dimensional.
    Also, light waves are three dimensional. They vibrate in all planes around a center line.
    Actually, gravitational effects are four dimensional. Gravity can affect the passing of time, light can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    So far, one becomes inclined to ask: Why is there a complete conformity between the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field and the morphology of the spread of light?
    As you can see from my answers, there isn't a complete conformity. In some cases it isn't even close. So, one would not be inclined to ask.

    Quote Originally Posted by Attiyah Zahdeh View Post
    Obviously, there is a complete conformity,...

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    In short, there is a complete conformity between the spread of light rays and the spread of the gravitational field lines, ...

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    So far, can the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field account well for the morphology of the spread of light?

    Yes, surely speaking, the morphology of the spread of the gravitational field accounts well for the morphology of the spread of light. Therefore, the photons travel in, or along, the gravitational field lines.
    There is nothing you provide that show a conformity of any kind between light or gravity. So your conclusios are flawed.

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    Greetings,

    The offered proposal in not consistent with the observable differences in the propagation of coherent versus incoherent radiation.

    The offered proposal is also not consistent with the well established frequency dependence of the scattering angle in elastic light scattering (Rayleigh scattering for example).

    Best regards,
    EigenState

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    Attiyah Zahdeh, you have many unanswered questions in your Explanation for Special Relativity thread, to which you have not contributed in over 36 hours. It seems strange that you would open this thread when you apparently don't have the time to devote proper attention to that one.

    To give you that time, I am closing this thread. When you can demonstrate that you are able to adequately participate in that thread, this thread will be considered for reopening.
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