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    Still Concerned About 2012?

    Don’t be. Don Yeomans, senior research scientist at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, CA, answers some common questions regarding 2012 and the much-misunderstood Mayan “long-count” calendar, Nibiru, pole-reversal and other such purported “doomsday” devices. Still set on the world ending come Dec. 21? Back off, man. Don’s a scientist. © Jason Major for Universe [...]


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    This old chestnut again:

    There is one book you may want to read on the subject. It is called A FOREST OF KINGS: The Untold Story of The Ancient Maya. Page 82 is of interest:

    "In the near future Maya time also approaches one of its great benchmarks. December 23, 2012, will be 4 Ahau 3 Kankin, the day when the 13 baktuns will end and the Long Count cycles return to the symmetry of the beginning. The Maya, however, did not conceive this to be the end of this creation, as many have suggested. Pacal, the great king of Palenque, predicted in his inscriptions that the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated eight days after the first eight-thousand-year cycle in the Mayan calander ends. In our time system, this cycle will end on October 15, 4772."

    For what it is worth, 4 Ahau 8 Cumku will come on "a day when the ninth Lord of the Night was ruling."

    Sadly, before we poured over their writings in an attempt to foretell our fate, their ancestors interpreted our writings rather more successfully to foretell their own doom--or so it seemed, as on page 378, where we pick up where the movie Apocalypto left off, as it were:

    "Worse than looting the temple--other pirates had done that--these men had raised up the World Tree in the form of a wooden cross. They had opened a book--small, black, and poorly painted, but still a book--and read from it in their unutterable tongue. The chilan, his city's prophet and interpreter for the gods, had watched....shaking his head in fear and wonder. Naum-Pat shuddered with the horror of the memory of what the strangers had done. As he did so, the words of the famous prophecy of the Chilam Balam went through his mind

    'Let us exalt his sign on high...Great is the discord that arises today. The First Tree of the World is restored...this is the sign of Hunab-Ku on high. Worship it Itza' will worship the true god today...You will be converted to the word of Hunab-Ku...'"

    "Naum-Pat had watched in stunned disbelief as the strangers threw down the kulche', the images of the gods, in the Holy House...They had put up the Yax-Cheel-Cab, the First Tree of the World. Like the chilan, Naum-Pat had seen the raising of the Tree as a powerful portent, but somehow the strangers black book had frightened him more...only real human beings, only Maya, had books...It was the books that Naum-Pat feared, for with books came true knowledge, knowledge that could vanquish his people's present and capture and transform their future."

    Of course, the strangers sophistry made slaves of the doomsday prophecies to bend the citizens to their will, so as to fit into the western church's apologetics--but the real lesson is clear:

    If you spend enough time in woo-woo land, and look for the end-times long enough--you will generally find them. Bill Maher came to the same conclusion in his movie

    In the age of nukes, we can no longer afford the self-fulfilling prophecy:


    More here:’t-End
    A bit more:

    Sad, still
    Last edited by publiusr; 2012-Jul-15 at 08:59 PM.

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