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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    That bugs you? That made me laugh when I read that. Mind you, I doubt I’ve actually ever watched anything on Lifetime.
    I’ve read the Lifetime summaries on the program guide and my reaction has varied from “no” to “heck no!”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Extravoice View Post
    I’ve read the Lifetime summaries on the program guide and my reaction has varied from “no” to “heck no!”
    That means, with 99.9% certainty, that you are male. Lifetime has a very definite target audience. Other channels go the other way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    That bugs you? That made me laugh when I read that. Mind you, I doubt I’ve actually ever watched anything on Lifetime.
    Yes, it seems like the sort of thing Father's Day actually needs.
    Mind you, my family has always treated Father's Day and Mother's Day with amused contempt, so maybe I'm not a good judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Yes, it seems like the sort of thing Father's Day actually needs.
    Mind you, my family has always treated Father's Day and Mother's Day with amused contempt, so maybe I'm not a good judge.

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    Here we are again: English words I've known for decades but never heard pronounced. And now that I do, it's totally different from what I had in mind!

    I always thought "comparator" was com-PAH-rah-tor (all vowels short, second one stressed).
    I just heard compuh-RAAH-tor (third vowel long and stressed). And this was a fine British gentleman, so it MUST be correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Here we are again: English words I've known for decades but never heard pronounced. And now that I do, it's totally different from what I had in mind!

    I always thought "comparator" was com-PAH-rah-tor (all vowels short, second one stressed).
    I just heard compuh-RAAH-tor (third vowel long and stressed). And this was a fine British gentleman, so it MUST be correct!
    No, I am with you, emphasis on par, for over fifty years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Here we are again: English words I've known for decades but never heard pronounced. And now that I do, it's totally different from what I had in mind!
    For some reason I still remember the first time I tried saying “rendezvous.” Well, I guess it was a little embarrassing which might be why I remember it. I was telling friends about this new book called Rendezvous with Rama. I knew I couldn’t be saying it right, but I was saying something like “Ron-dez-vooz.” I did take French after that and forgot most of it. I’ve run into that issue a number of times, my reading and writing vocabularies are larger than my spoken one.

    I always thought "comparator" was com-PAH-rah-tor (all vowels short, second one stressed).
    I just heard compuh-RAAH-tor (third vowel long and stressed). And this was a fine British gentleman, so it MUST be correct!
    I’d say it as “come-pair-uh-ter,” similar to how I would say “compare.” The free dictionary has American and British pronunciations:

    https://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/comparator

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    That means, with 99.9% certainty, that you are male. Lifetime has a very definite target audience. Other channels go the other way.
    And even most women I know don't care for the Lifetime stories. Too ...Lifetime-y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Here we are again: English words I've known for decades but never heard pronounced. And now that I do, it's totally different from what I had in mind!

    I always thought "comparator" was com-PAH-rah-tor (all vowels short, second one stressed).
    I just heard compuh-RAAH-tor (third vowel long and stressed). And this was a fine British gentleman, so it MUST be correct!
    COM-puh-rate-ur, I'm afraid. All vowels short, emphasis on the first syllable. The Oxford English Dictionary agrees with me. I hear com-PAH-rah-tor a lot. Never heard com-pu-RAAH-tor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KaiYeves View Post
    Is there anything you DON’T treat with amused contempt?
    My family? A fairly limited repertoire of contempt. But amused indulgence for a lot of things others take very seriously, certainly. My father occasionally used to quote his old squadron commander: "Everything matters, but nothing matters awfully." We all of us have (or had) interests to which we devote(d) a great deal of care and attention, but we all appreciate(d) that these are simply things that interest us, not matters of Pressing National Importance.
    There are, of course, things that I do take seriously (it would have been difficult to do my job otherwise, if nothing else). But I tend not to share those topics on the internet much. A few have leaked out here, over the years, but not many and not for long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    There are, of course, things that I do take seriously (it would have been difficult to do my job otherwise, if nothing else). But I tend not to share those topics on the internet much.
    This puts you in the minority, I think. Most people like either to emphasize what's important to them, and leave the lesser interests until later in the conversation. or the other way, to make small talk at first and as you get more comfortable with someone, to share bigger things. You seem to be Steady State.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    And even most women I know don't care for the Lifetime stories. Too ...Lifetime-y.
    For a lot of the women I know, they're silly fun.

    As for Fathers' Day . . . I like the general concept. I like the idea of most days that are about celebrating a single actually important thing. (My feelings on "Bosses' Day" are unprintable.) Valentine's Day? If you have a partner who's not good at romantic gestures, having a day for those might mean having a day where your relationship feels valued--you know it is, but sometimes, it's nice to be told. Likewise Mothers' Day and Fathers' Day; my kids are not appreciative souls, Gods love them, because they are young children. But "we made this in class!" is at least . . . something?

    But I don't have to think very hard to come up with friends who have toxic relationships with their parents. One or both. They might like a little break from "aren't dads awesome?" when, for example, their father has neglected them for almost their entire life in favour of their stepsisters and skipped their wedding for . . . reasons. And goodness knows Lifetime has that store of movies available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    Here we are again: English words I've known for decades but never heard pronounced. And now that I do, it's totally different from what I had in mind!

    I always thought "comparator" was com-PAH-rah-tor (all vowels short, second one stressed).
    I just heard compuh-RAAH-tor (third vowel long and stressed). And this was a fine British gentleman, so it MUST be correct!
    I'd put the accent on the second sylable myself. But I don't think I've ever used the word in a sentence, either orally or written.

    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Yes, it seems like the sort of thing Father's Day actually needs.
    Mind you, my family has always treated Father's Day and Mother's Day with amused contempt, so maybe I'm not a good judge.

    Grant Hutchison
    I actively dislike Mother's Day and Father's day now that mine are no longer living.

    Oh, and about those days: Should it be Mother's Day, Mothers' Day, or just Mothers Day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    Oh, and about those days: Should it be Mother's Day, Mothers' Day, or just Mothers Day?
    In the USA, it's Mother's Day by presidential proclamation. Likewise for Father's Day.
    The UK Government seems to take less interest in these things, so I think we get to choose whichever we like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    That means, with 99.9% certainty, that you are male. Lifetime has a very definite target audience. Other channels go the other way.
    I don't know about that.

    Let "X" be "male", and "Y" be "reacts with 'no' to 'heck no!'". Then the assertion is



    But



    But we can rewrite this as



    So we need



    which means



    or



    The number on the right is really small, about 0.001001. So rearranging a bit, we get



    Now if the numbers of men and women are equal, then the right-hand side has to be about 0.0005005 or less. Which means out of the half of the population that are women, only 0.0005005 (or fewer) react with "no" or "heck no!". That means out of the half of the population that are women, at least 0.4994995 do not react with "no" or "heck no!" - almost all the women.

    Now you can make this less extreme if there are more men than women, let's say the population is 90% men and 10% women, then the right-hand side could be as high as 0.0009009, so that out of the 0.1 of the population that are women, at least 0.0990991 do not react with "no" or "heck no!". So even with this extreme demographic, if only 1% of the women react with "no" or "heck no!", then the probability of being male (conditional on the reaction) is less than 0.999. With the original 50/50 demographics, it is more like 0.1% of the women who are allowed to react with "no" or "heck no!".

    I'm pretty confident the percentage of women who react with "no" or "heck no!" is a lot more than 1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillianren View Post
    ... But "we made this in class!" is at least . . . something? ...
    Which is why our daughter doesn't look forward to those special days. She teaches kindergarten and has to come up with the gift idea and supervise (and often do the grunt work for) making those mementos. Father's Day was a printed poem with the child's handprint, mounted in a picture frame. The kids did the handprints, she did the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Which is why our daughter doesn't look forward to those special days. She teaches kindergarten and has to come up with the gift idea and supervise (and often do the grunt work for) making those mementos. Father's Day was a printed poem with the child's handprint, mounted in a picture frame. The kids did the handprints, she did the rest.
    And some kids may not have fathers, at least not ones they live with.
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    All "holidays" that involve compulsory displays of emotion regardless of how the compelled individual actually feels or would actually express it himself/herself should be banned. They're psychological slavery.

    But even that sort of compulsory fakery isn't as bad as using such a "holiday" to show a bunch of movies that are nothing but propaganda against members of the group that the "holiday" is supposed to be for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    And some kids may not have fathers, at least not ones they live with.
    Anecdotally, I'm aware through teachers among friends and family that some schools have ceased to draw pupils' attentions to Mother's Day and Father's Day. Even in the absence of bereavement, separation or imprisonment, the modern model of what constitutes a family doesn't necessarily involve distinct "mother" and "father" roles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
    All "holidays" that involve compulsory displays of emotion regardless of how the compelled individual actually feels or would actually express it himself/herself should be banned. They're psychological slavery.
    I wouldn't call it slavery, as the only "punishment" for not conforming is mild social irritation at worst. But I do think holidays promoting performative celebration of traditional roles should go. Their time has passed.
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    When a friend of ours gave birth, she got a "my daddy is the best" pacifier from the hospital. Baby's got two mommies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    When a friend of ours gave birth, she got a "my daddy is the best" pacifier from the hospital. Baby's got two mommies.
    I saw a couple of guys wheeling a baby through the park last summer. The baby was wearing a T-shirt with a caption that read "Mother, Schmother". I gave them a quizzical smile, they each gave me a "yes indeed" nod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    I saw a couple of guys wheeling a baby through the park last summer. The baby was wearing a T-shirt with a caption that read "Mother, Schmother". I gave them a quizzical smile, they each gave me a "yes indeed" nod.

    Only fifty years since [I]The Naked Civil Servant[/I]. Life is in many ways amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Anecdotally, I'm aware through teachers among friends and family that some schools have ceased to draw pupils' attentions to Mother's Day and Father's Day. Even in the absence of bereavement, separation or imprisonment, the modern model of what constitutes a family doesn't necessarily involve distinct "mother" and "father" roles.
    Zane's teacher specifically mentioned that some of the kids might have two fathers, or zero fathers.

    Like I said, I like having a designated day. People who don't like it actually are free to ignore it. Those who need the reminder to show others that they care might in fact do it for once. Is there too much pressure? Sure. But I still like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    This puts you in the minority, I think. Most people like either to emphasize what's important to them, and leave the lesser interests until later in the conversation. or the other way, to make small talk at first and as you get more comfortable with someone, to share bigger things. You seem to be Steady State.
    It seems to be a common enough attitude among those of my age and culture.
    It depends, ultimately, on how a person relates to the internet, and whether the concept of "internet friend" strikes one as an oxymoron (my feeling) or an intuitively obvious concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    It seems to be a common enough attitude among those of my age and culture.
    It depends, ultimately, on how a person relates to the internet, and whether the concept of "internet friend" strikes one as an oxymoron (my feeling) or an intuitively obvious concept.
    The internet, and specifically this forum, provides more than half my social interaction outside of a handful of in-person friends. That's been the case since long before the pandemic. So my view of it is probably atypical.
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    I read that as "in-prison friends" and felt like I missed a wee little detail about your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    It seems to be a common enough attitude among those of my age and culture.
    It depends, ultimately, on how a person relates to the internet, and whether the concept of "internet friend" strikes one as an oxymoron (my feeling) or an intuitively obvious concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    The internet, and specifically this forum, provides more than half my social interaction outside of a handful of in-person friends. That's been the case since long before the pandemic. So my view of it is probably atypical.
    Way more than half for me. I've always been an introvert anyhow, and since I retired I don't see people to talk to very often. I'd like to count Grant as an "internet friend", but fear offending him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    I read that as "in-prison friends" and felt like I missed a wee little detail about your life.
    My only prison is mental.
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