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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    Not really. The car wouldn't have started if you didn't have the keys (they pretty much need to be inside the car, not just near it).

    But I haven't yet determined what happens if you start the engine, then toss the keys out the window (presumably to another person, if you're testing!), then drive off.

    My assumptions are that the car would not turn itself off, because that would be dangerous, but I have to believe it would warn you with an alarm and display on the dash. That's what happens if you try to start the car without the keys, after all.

    (Actually, I used to own a car where I could take the key out of the ignition while the engine was running...)
    My sister is often the driver for our family. Several times, she's gotten out of the running car with her key fob still in her purse, setting off a loud beeeeeep of protest from said vehicle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    My sister is often the driver for our family. Several times, she's gotten out of the running car with her key fob still in her purse, setting off a loud beeeeeep of protest from said vehicle.
    Yes, now that you mention it, I've had that happens several times - if I have already started the car and then realize I forgot something in the house, for example.

    So it would probably do the same beeping if I drove off and left the keys behind. But I still don't know what it displays on the dash, since I can't see it when I do that that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    Not really. The car wouldn't have started if you didn't have the keys (they pretty much need to be inside the car, not just near it).

    But I haven't yet determined what happens if you start the engine, then toss the keys out the window (presumably to another person, if you're testing!), then drive off.

    My assumptions are that the car would not turn itself off, because that would be dangerous, but I have to believe it would warn you with an alarm and display on the dash. That's what happens if you try to start the car without the keys, after all.

    (Actually, I used to own a car where I could take the key out of the ignition while the engine was running...)
    I think it'll actually shut itself off after a short distance. My problem was I couldn't even start it!

    Back in the 1960's, GM cars allowed you to take the key out of the ignition while in the "off" position, without moving the switch to the "lock" position. You could then drive all you wanted without a key, as long as you didn't lock the door. I once drove my Corvair a couple of hundred miles with my keychain hanging in the trunk lock on the front of the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    Not really.
    Oh, itís less of a concern, in that the places you have to look are more limited. But it is still a concern.

    Are the keys in my pocket?

    Are they in the cup holder?

    Are they in the passenger seat?

    Etc.
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    More of a makes me sad than annoying:
    For the past few years my wife and I have noticed an elderly man who walks around the neighborhood using a walker. Often wearing a sort of fur coat if it's cold, but getting his walk in.
    We hadn't seen him in a while and yesterday I learned from the HOA newsletter that he had passed away at 103. A hundred and three! And still getting his walks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 21st Century Schizoid Man View Post
    Well now that cars often have keys that just need to be near the car, rather than physically inserted into a slot, that has become a valid concern.
    My car is not new enough to have that feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gillianren View Post
    My car is not new enough to have that feature.
    My truck doesn't either but The Wife's does, which I drive a lot. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to push a non-existent start button in my truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetersCreek View Post
    My truck doesn't either but The Wife's does, which I drive a lot. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to push a non-existent start button in my truck.
    My mother's father drove a 1950 Hudson that had a push button start. "All things old are new again."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    More of a makes me sad than annoying:
    For the past few years my wife and I have noticed an elderly man who walks around the neighborhood using a walker. Often wearing a sort of fur coat if it's cold, but getting his walk in.
    We hadn't seen him in a while and yesterday I learned from the HOA newsletter that he had passed away at 103. A hundred and three! And still getting his walks in.
    I wonder if the reason he made it to 103 is that he did take those walks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    (Actually, I used to own a car where I could take the key out of the ignition while the engine was running...)
    I once owned an F-150 whose windshield seal failed and allowed just enough water to drip into the electronics under the dashboard and somehow mess with the ignition system. One time I couldn't turn the engine off. Quite annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torsten View Post
    I once owned an F-150 whose windshield seal failed and allowed just enough water to drip into the electronics under the dashboard and somehow mess with the ignition system. One time I couldn't turn the engine off. Quite annoying.
    My old Datsun 120Y allowed me to get out of the car and lock the door behind me with the keys still in the ignition and the engine running.
    I found this out in a remote part of the Scottish Highlands. Fortunately there was a telephone box just down the road, and I was able to call the Automobile Association, who arrived two hours later and broke into my car for me.
    Nowadays I'd have been in much worse trouble, because the telephone box is now gone, and there's no mobile phone reception for a good ten miles down the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    My mother's father drove a 1950 Hudson that had a push button start. "All things old are new again."
    We had a Lada where you had to push the entire car to start it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    We had a Lada where you had to push the entire car to start it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    My mother's father drove a 1950 Hudson that had a push button start. "All things old are new again."
    When I was a kid, we used to play in my mother's car as it was parked in the driveway.
    Once, I pushed the starter button, fully expecting nothing to happen because we didn't have the keys.
    The engine cranked & it scared the dickens out of me.

    ETA: I don't recall if it was in gear, but that would have added to my terror, explaining why I remember the incident to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PetersCreek View Post
    My truck doesn't either but The Wife's does, which I drive a lot. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to push a non-existent start button in my truck.
    I, on the other hand, keep digging my keys out of my pocket as I get into my wife's car!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    I, on the other hand, keep digging my keys out of my pocket as I get into my wife's car!
    My car has the keyless pushbutton start/stop so I can keep the fob in my pocket. However, being a base model, it doesn't have the proximity feature for unlocking the doors, so I still have to reach into my pocket and grab the fob to unlock the doors.

    With that combination, they could have just used an ignition key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    We had a Lada where you had to push the entire car to start it!
    Why does a Trabi have a heater in the back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    I think it'll actually shut itself off after a short distance.
    I can honestly say that I've never tested it, but I have to believe that's not the case. They certainly wouldn't dare let it turn itself off while in motion, and they couldn't very well kill it while it's sitting in the middle of the road blocking traffic, either. I think it's got to be that once it's started, it will continue to run until the driver turns it off.

    I know that cars do sometimes die on the road, but they're not going to make that happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeanF View Post
    I can honestly say that I've never tested it, but I have to believe that's not the case. They certainly wouldn't dare let it turn itself off while in motion, and they couldn't very well kill it while it's sitting in the middle of the road blocking traffic, either. I think it's got to be that once it's started, it will continue to run until the driver turns it off.

    I know that cars do sometimes die on the road, but they're not going to make that happen.
    There's anti-carjacking devices that do this sort of thing, either via a timer or a cell phone connection (Lojack) but they aren't standard factory equipment. Onstar may have the capability as well, but I don't know.

    If you drive off without the fob, the car will flash messages on the screen/dash lights and beep at you but it will continue to run until shut off.

    My car has the best anti-theft device available today (in the US anyway)... a manual transmission! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by 21st Century Schizoid Man View Post
    Why does a Trabi have a heater in the back?
    Why does the reading lamp of a Lada have a 2 meter long cord?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
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    A little attention to detail goes a long way. And I will not yet assume malice in both errors being financially advantageous for the seller....
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    Quote Originally Posted by kpatz View Post
    There's anti-carjacking devices that do this sort of thing, either via a timer or a cell phone connection (Lojack) but they aren't standard factory equipment. Onstar may have the capability as well, but I don't know.
    Lojack is nothing more than location tracking. I don't think it even connects to the car's system other than for power.

    Some Onstar packages include a slow-down feature that prevents the vehicle from going over a certain speed to prevent high-speed chases, and I'm pretty sure Onstar can be set to prevent a vehicle from being restarted once the driver has turned it off.

    Seriously, turning off the engine while a vehicle is traveling in unknown traffic situations is insanely dangerous. It can happen with system failures, but there's no way it's going to be a designed feature. You're going to kill innocent people doing that.
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    We don't take a daily newspaper, but do subscribe to the local weekly. They always have Police Log and Sheriff's Log articles, listing calls to those agencies; or at least the ones that catch the interest of the editor.
    Lately, at least half of the Police Log ones are related to mental illness, homelessness, or both. Often with more than one item relating to the same person, or with the same person* appearing week after week. It may be selective reporting by the paper, of course, they can't cover everything. But it's disturbing nonetheless.

    *Like the guy with the black dog, ranting at passersby or even people in their own yards that they are stalking him. I was actually surprised he didn't make it into yesterday's paper.
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    My poor sister-in-law -- I guess I should say "ex" since she divorced from my brother last year -- has had terrible health problems, including lupus, for as long as I've known her. Now she has severe spinal degeneration and needs surgery. She's come from Idaho to stay with my niece in Tacoma and get a consultation with University of Washington Medicine. I hope they can help her. However:
    I was looking up the doctor and suddenly realized it's the same clinic that did my back after I fell. They did fine on the surgery, as far as I know, but every follow-up visit was the same: Very, very, long waits. For a one o'clock appointment, I'd be in the waiting room until after 2:00, then get an x-ray, then sit in the exam room seemingly forever. I took to opening the exam room door so I could glare at staff passing by. Then eventually start calling out to them. The last time a somewhat harried ARNP came in and apologized that Dr. Z was tied up and I wouldn't be able to see him this time, just her. My response: "I've never seen him. Just you." I believe I made it back to the rehab center about 6:30 that time.
    I have serious doubts about my S-I-L's ability to sit so long. I warned my niece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
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    They did fine on the surgery, as far as I know, but every follow-up visit was the same: Very, very, long waits. For a one o'clock appointment, I'd be in the waiting room until after 2:00, then get an x-ray, then sit in the exam room seemingly forever.
    Of various bad doctor behaviors, that to me is one of the worst. I understand it happening it once in a while (stuff happens), but a doctor who does it regularly is obviously overbooking and just doesn't value his patients' time.

    My wife saw an eye specialist who did this routinely. What made it even worse was I had to take her to these appointments (since she couldn't drive after she got dilated) and so it tied up both her time and mine. He was also rather rude and completely unapologetic about any of this. It was bad enough that my wife complained to the department head about it (she worked for that hospital at that time). She got a very un-heart-felt apology out of it. Luckily, she only had to see him for a short period of time.

    My gastroenterologist is the complete opposite. If you have a 10:20 appointment, you are in the exam room at 10:20 and the nurse is doing their stuff within a minute and he is in there as soon as they are done. He actually apologized to me once for being 5 minutes late.
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    Yeah. After my fall I also had my knee repaired by the orthopedic clinic at the same hospital. They were darn near military. No checking in until 15 minutes before your appointed time. At exactly that time you were sent through a door and down a hall to a little waiting area for X-ray. Typically I'd barely be sat before being called into the X-ray and then sent down another hall to another little waiting room for the actual consultation. Usually didn't even get sat before being put in an exam room, where the person doing it would show up within a couple of minutes. Usually totally done within half an hour of the original appointment.
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    The clinic I go to is overbooked, but it's not by the doctors. It's an overwhelmed system--about the only one that takes Medicaid around here, I believe--and the management has all sorts of ideas on how to see more people in the same time with the same number of people. I once pointed out to someone working there that "it's all new patients in the morning" just meant more patients trying to take fewer slots, which apparently hadn't occurred to him.
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