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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    MAJOR NASASpaceFlight.com article;

    Orbital Starship flight aspirationally this summer.

    If it's this year it'll rattle the industry, but summer?

    https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2021...flight-summer/
    July first??? Holy cow, they like to crush the schedule, don't they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger E. Moore View Post
    July first??? Holy cow, they like to crush the schedule, don't they?
    Elon standard time.

    ETA: I copied an article from Space.com in Sept 2019, to illustrate Elon time.
    https://www.space.com/spacex-starshi...3mTqEo6_9ijjjs

    On Saturday (Sept. 28), Elon Musk gave his annual update about Starship and Super Heavy, the reusable spacecraft and rocket, respectively, that the company is building to help colonize Mars.

    The presentation took place at SpaceX's South Texas site, near the village of Boca Chica, and prominently featured the 165-foot-tall (50 meters) Starship Mk1 — the first full-size Starship prototype, whose assembly was completed just days before Musk's talk. (One test-flight prototype preceded the Mk1 — a short and stubby vehicle called Starhopper, which was retired in late August.)
    ETA2: Now I am relating to SpaceX, only, so no comparisons with ANY other entity is warranted.
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    StarLink 22

    60 more StarLinks

    Date: March 22, 2021
    Time: 1819 Eastern (2219 UT)
    Pad: LC-40
    Booster 1060.6
    Booster recovery: ASDS Just Read the Instructions
    Fairing recovery: yes

    At this clip SpaceX could do 40+ launches in 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    StarLink 22

    60 more StarLinks

    Date: March 22, 2021
    Time: 1819 Eastern (2219 UT)
    Pad: LC-40
    Booster 1060.6
    Booster recovery: ASDS Just Read the Instructions
    Fairing recovery: yes

    At this clip SpaceX could do 40+ launches in 2021.
    That would be excellent.

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    Many of those 40 launches would have SpaceX as its own customer, but at the very least it would demonstrate the capability of a rapid launch cadence.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Just saw this Scott Manley video concerning some people in Europe that have decoded the Telemetry & Engineering feeds. Interesting stuff but way beyond my understanding of data transmissions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74_N163HyhA

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    Quote Originally Posted by bknight View Post
    Just saw this Scott Manley video concerning some people in Europe that have decoded the Telemetry & Engineering feeds. Interesting stuff but way beyond my understanding of data transmissions.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74_N163HyhA
    I had the same reaction!
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    Starship thread (video at link)

    https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/s...87968773259271

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    Honestly, if I hadn’t seen this with my own eyes and didn’t have my own footage of this, I would 100% think it’s CGI
    I think it’s the coolest video in the world! The future is here. Science fiction isn’t even this cool! Can’t wait for #SN11 @SpaceX @elonmusk
    0:16 / 0:19
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    Crazy! Full stack flight July?
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    That’s our goal
    9:21 PM · Mar 16, 2021

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    That's the best view yet. The SLSS concept as an Earth-Moon cycler with human rating given to Falcon Heavy so to taxi with it-no TPS or legs-might be best for now. Super-Heavy is what I want to see. I have been pushing for LV growth for years. The more the better. Even a rump star-kicker second stage would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    Starship thread (video at link)

    https://twitter.com/Erdayastronaut/s...87968773259271

    Everyday Astronaut @Erdayastronaut
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    Honestly, if I hadn’t seen this with my own eyes and didn’t have my own footage of this, I would 100% think it’s CGI
    I think it’s the coolest video in the world! The future is here. Science fiction isn’t even this cool! Can’t wait for #SN11 @SpaceX @elonmusk
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    Hah! I think this is a common sentiment. From earlier in the thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    Regarding the SpaceX video, I was very impressed by the closeups and camera angles. Amazing to watch it coming down. I expect there will be some CGI claims from usual suspects.
    Quote Originally Posted by ozduck View Post
    A very good attempt but those first 5 or 6 seconds of footage of the descent are amazing - you could (almost) be forgiven for thinking that it is CGI.
    For me, it wasn’t just the final landing, but the great angles and seemingly closeup and clear view as it came down. Almost too good to be real.

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    Update on Starship SN11 as SpaceX marches toward a static fire

    https://www.spaceflightinsider.com/o...a-static-fire/
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    My one real gripe is that you can't use more of these as strap-ons. Not only would it allow Gigantor payloads, but the strap-ons could themselves have pointed noses. The Falcon Strap-Ons are the real lookers.

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    round-vs-pointy.jpg

    I think that for the time being, "just" a Starship with Superheavy will do. Are you planning on launching Mt Rushmore?
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    I’m happy to wait for SpaceX to get this version working. If they can get a fully reusable, inexpensive and quick to build and inexpensive to fly rocket of this size working, it will revolutionize space travel. Musk has talked about an even taller and wider version. If the concept is shown to work, I’m sure SpaceX would be open to contracts for variants, like a wide super heavy with a second stage for a large and massive payload under an aeroshell, similar in concept to the Shuttle-C proposal (which basically deleted the orbiter except for engines, and was meant for cargo).

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    If they'd increase it enough in size, it could even carry an SLS into orbit, cheap.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    I'd go for that:-) Wide hypersonics, etc. I wonder if Super Heavy grid fins are just wide enough to spread across some of the Mars holes...

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    Road closures for SN-11 static fire & flight,

    Primary: Monday, March 22, 0800 - 1500 Eastern

    Backup: Tuesday, March 23, 0800 - 1500 Eastern

    Primary: Wednesday, March 24, 0800 - 1500 Eastern

    Backup: Thursday, March 25, 0800 - 1500 Eastern

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    SN/11's first static fire attempt was another firey burp. Better luck next time.

    I was wondering how they'd stack BN1. Ok, just add some length to Tankzilla, remove some roof panels from the high bay and drop the hook through. Awesome.

    Now how are they going to get a starship on top of a superheavy? And where can I invest in someone that manufactures really tall cranes?

    I expect to see BN1 on suborbital pad A in 2 or 3 weeks.
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    A 45 minute dive into the HLS (Human Landing System) bids.

    Gives everyone a fair shake. Really well presented.

    This line is clever:

    "Starship is basically an aircraft carrier when you're looking for a fishing boat, but it's less than half the cost of the other fishing boat."

    https://twitter.com/KerbalNut/status...50524337799175

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    SN/11's first static fire attempt was another firey burp. Better luck next time.

    I was wondering how they'd stack BN1. Ok, just add some length to Tankzilla, remove some roof panels from the high bay and drop the hook through. Awesome.

    Now how are they going to get a starship on top of a superheavy? And where can I invest in someone that manufactures really tall cranes?

    I expect to see BN1 on suborbital pad A in 2 or 3 weeks.
    If they had any trust in their own abilities, they'd try to land Starship on top of Superheavy.

    IIRC Musk said SN11 would get new engines if the static fire showed issues. We've seen 2 failed static fires so far and no new engines, so I suppose the issues were down to reasons outside of the engines such as ground support equipment.
    With sufficient thrust, water towers fly just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    If they had any trust in their own abilities, they'd try to land Starship on top of Superheavy.

    IIRC Musk said SN11 would get new engines if the static fire showed issues. We've seen 2 failed static fires so far and no new engines, so I suppose the issues were down to reasons outside of the engines such as ground support equipment.
    Ground support equipment changes & issues and weather slowed them down.

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    SpaceXvision @SpacexVision
    The SpaceX Orbital Mega Tanker (OMT) fan-concept.
    @elonmusk Could something like this be useful in the long run?
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    An orbital propellant depot optimized for cryogenic storage probably makes sense long-term
    12:40 AM · Mar 20, 2021

    https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1373132222555848713

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    Put ACES on that.

    Call it the DY-1000. I want to see the SLSS cycler in its nose for Dear Moon II
    You Only Live Twice...Elon

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas View Post
    If they had any trust in their own abilities, they'd try to land Starship on top of Superheavy.
    The FAA won’t let the Tracy’s do it. unFAB
    Last edited by publiusr; 2021-Mar-21 at 02:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    Ground support equipment changes & issues and weather slowed them down.
    Speaking of GSE, what's up with that "GSE" tank they've just assembled?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
    Speaking of GSE, what's up with that "GSE" tank they've just assembled?
    They're using Starship rings to build propellant tanks for the orbital pad tank farms. Why buy them when you can roll your own at 10% the cost?

    Sounds like NASA's suits & astronauts are warming to Starship - ISTM that kind of image caption needs suit approval.

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    NASA astros visiting Starship SN11.

    "Common goals, shared vision. NASA astronauts learning about the SpaceX Starship—one element in a growing worldwide field of deeper space exploration systems with sights on the moon and Mars."

    Instagram link:
    https://t.co/u5lK1mANO1?amp=1

    20210321_111805.jpg

    https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/...58836422180871

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmordrid View Post
    They're using Starship rings to build propellant tanks for the orbital pad tank farms. Why buy them when you can roll your own at 10% the cost?
    They've also likely got a bunch of steel that was good enough for early prototypes or tanks, but not for for the prototypes they're building now. And their early GSE on Mars is likely to be built around repurposed Starships.

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    SpaceX Starship will be capable of deploying hundreds of Starlink satellites per launch.

    https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesm...rship-starlink

    QUOTE: SpaceX will offer Starlink satellite broadband internet service globally to fund its Mars colonization plans. The constellation will be comprised of at least 12,000 satellites that will beam internet connection down to Starlink user terminals. Long-term customers will be helping SpaceX fund the development of a fleet of one thousand Starships to enable humans to create the first city on the Red Planet before the year 2050.
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    Last edited by docmordrid; 2021-Mar-22 at 02:24 PM.

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    Note also the trebuchet in the foreground of one camera angle!
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