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    We must protect our powergrid from the sun

    I was wondering what Congress is do about our power grid to pratact us from the sun flars that could knock it out

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    What is Congress? Do you mean Parliament?

    What measures do you think should be taken to pratect us from sun flars?

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    If (when) another 1859 event occurs we won't have much time to react. Would pulling the plug on the grid(s) just before a massive CME hits help prevent most of the damage?

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    here is something about rick parry on the review of the energy grid

    https://www.vox.com/energy-and-envir...iew?yptr=yahoo

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    I doubt that burning more coal will protect the grid from CMEs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacedude View Post
    I doubt that burning more coal will protect the grid from CMEs
    True, we should protect against CMEs while at the same time incorporating more gentle expressions of the Sun's power into our grid where climate permits.

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    We can reduce energy used that might help like make battery's charge more faster on phones and computers and not focus so much on electric cars because I feel it's using way to much energy

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    Quote Originally Posted by bruce fiction View Post
    We can reduce energy used that might help like make battery's charge more faster on phones and computers and not focus so much on electric cars because I feel it's using way to much energy

    And what exactly does this have to do with the OP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spacedude View Post
    If (when) another 1859 event occurs we won't have much time to react. Would pulling the plug on the grid(s) just before a massive CME hits help prevent most of the damage?
    This is unlikely in the next half centuries because nort pole moves right new from Canada towards the low-populated areas of russian siberia, and south pole moving towards Argentina (effects from CME have maximum around magnetic poles).

    Quote Originally Posted by bruce fiction View Post
    and not focus so much on electric cars because I feel it's using way to much energy
    Nope. Because generators in the power station have much more energy conversion efficiency then car engines, and less emission rate then cars - remember at least Audi scandal. And even we forget about all of that - we still have electric car battery (new in the cars connected to the power grid and cheap used ones) which can be used to mitigate problem with daily production of the renewable energy and energy consumption. And you cannot make a serial car on renewable energy sources if you don't turn him to the electric.

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    In the US, congress would facilitate and communicate, but little else. It is really in the hands of the individual companies. Canada and Mexico would have the same sort of game plan as the US companies, because there is an agreement to assist, over each border, as much as possible. (Mexico and Canada probably have a wildly different operational system, but the end result is still mutual support. The devil is in the details, I am sure.) The state governments have a rather large stick that they can unleash on companies in the form of fines if they don't fix things in a reasonable time. This only happens after a multi-month long evaluation and probably more than a few hearings. Companies band together even when there is not a particularly good business reason to help because that stick hurts a lot and can come years after the fact.

    Realistically, the damaged areas would be isolated for repair then limited power would start to come back to undamaged areas. To a degree you would see pockets of powered areas surrounding blacked out areas. Unfortunately, there is no especially fast fix for such an event. Individual items would have repair times of hours to days, but then you have a lot of individual items to repair, so it is a long haul mission. It would be painfully slow.

    We are seeing this right now, with Mexico, Puerto Rico and other Caribbean islands thanks to the hurricanes. The government does as much as it can to facilitate and communicate, but doesn't have the resources or the need to have the resources necessary to fix everything. That is down to the business sector. There is no particular plan to help Puerto Rico from New York, yet the companies here have a vested interest in helping down there. A lot of other actors are participating the same way. In case you are wondering why there is a guy from Erie, the Bronx, Toronto and Juárez all on the same Puerto Rican beach stringing wire, that is why.
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