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    Not sure if this should go in exploration or tv off topic /media?

    This guy IsaacArthur has a lot of exploration videos. He has lots and lots of vids you might have a chance to view on a weekend or maybe during a quiet lunch break. I remember having trouble linking something before here, so suspect the automated filter here on cosmoquest might take it bit chute as some kind of cuss' word and not bit chute a vdieo sharing social media platform. Isaac Arthur is an interesting guy, he has a massive collection of space vids. I might not agree with all he says but he is always interesting, he also runs a site www.isaacarthur.net and a YouTube channel with Futurism about space exploration and I think he did a vid with Universtoday's Fraser Cain.

    I think maybe there was also some maybe a radio? or podcast by him and Fraiser on Apple radio to Download or some other media platforms? Some of the new kids the new generation might only remember the internet as google, youtube, facebook and twitter, but old timers will remember how things come and go, legandary ancient libraries crumbled, magazines and papers which had huge business went out of print and at one time the interent was all lycos, AOL, netscape, myspace, geocities I for one am glad the old school message forums and bulletin board systems are still around and I can still socialize with old internet friends and come on sites such as this cosmoquest forum. I know sometimes there are disputes, some big famous names got themselves for whatever reaons, maybe removed or banned by plaforms for violation of terms or posting poltical comments or some artistic dispute for example I know the Beatles surving members, Garth Brooks and Prince had or have some kind of personal dispute with youtube and the actress Rose McGowan recently got herself banned from twitter after making some rape comment accusation on twitter about the Producer Weinstein. People have arguments with an online media plaform over intellectual property, artistic copyright etc so there are many genuine disputes and censorships online for whatever reasons. There are other new video sharing platforms out there like vid.me is another social media video platform with topics like brainfood/tech but the plaform seems a bit young and un-devoloped I don't really like it yet. Dailymotion and Vimeo seem to be other media platforms but they seem to be more filmmaker arty content and I sometimes have seen some interesting bloggers and people on typepad and wordpress sites. We now are in an age where people scifi writers, teachers, scientists can now BigMoney just by online vids or with say 'Social Media'. Maybe there some kinds of online 'celebrity' media people with huge followings just want to use a service for its numbers and popularity. Some people make use ads to make a living through their social media and some make a seven figure salary just to post some vids or messages. I wonder what it takes for another plaform to take off and skyrocket go viral all of a sudden? The audience for pure entertainment will probably always be larger and more sucessful than a science audience or open source information audience so maybe they just need some new movie cinema trailer or new musician to take a new media platform going viral, or maybe they just need some tv talk show or radio to plug and mention the site? The online or tv audience is probably they can suddenly alll turn off one tv station and ratings drop or some new websites kills off an old one which gotten in the way of innovation and staying relevant. I find it interesting how this science guy IsaacArthur, he's gone so big into bit-chute, it says its decentralized and says the platform is built on open-source tech....by the people or for the people or so they claim. Anyways the platform has some good space exploration vids and he's one of the name you should look out for with a big library of videos.

    Isaac Arthur is on youtube also and he has got a big alien paradox vid on bit-chute with over a thousand views and a hundred shares which is good for a new plaform. On youtube he clocks up 200 thousand hits on Cosmology Astrobiologiical philosophical vids like 'First Contact' and Alien Cvilizations at the End of Time. he seems very realistic, practical about exactly what technology needs to be available to us to do this space science stuff and how far off it is and I like the way he talks, videos and edits well organized and informative. He usually covers space, futurism, science, exploration and futurology, Ironstars, Blackholes, Space Propulsion, Terraforming, Scifi concepts and near futristic concepts are just some of his many topics.

    He makes, cuts the vids, adds illustration, there is also music....very well done for some 'amateur' guy on the interent but I think he does hvae some sort of education or science credentials, he vid an interesting vid on the fermi paradox and extinct alien civilizations

    Be intersting to know who he is? anyone have info on the guy?

    I will try linking his latest vid here but I'm pretty sure the link may not work and get caught by the filter
    https://www.bit-chute.com/video/HdpRxGjtCo0 (remove hyphen)
    Outward Bound: Colonizing Titan by Isaac Arthur
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    He's on you tube now


    I'm kinda getting into online radio vid stuff I just found https://player.fm , www.spacetv.net , open.spotify.com/ , thetvdb and Podcats , spacetalkblog.com is another and the future timeline, newmars marssociety stuff and orbiter forum. These medium do cover space but some space topics can be very scifi or more fantasy based rather than science based. Maybe I should make a thread on other radio/media that discuss exploration.

    I think its a shame some people were forced to go to fringe sites to build up a following while they sorted out 'copyright' or other disputes, I seen one guy Rick Beato he basically goes down the memory road, reminiscence an old songs, talks about audio equipment and music and sells a book on musical teaching and music theory and he almost got his channel banned.

    Sound Cloud is pretty good for this space, scifi radio stuff
    https://soundcloud.com/isaac-arthur-...rakes-equation
    'Drake's Equation / Fermi Paradox'
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    Hello Launch window,

    That long paragraph in your first post could really, really use some work. Lol.

    Otherwise, yeah, I agree and thanks. I whiled away a few hours (on YouTube) viewing a bunch of Isaac Arthur's stuff, particularly on Fermi Paradox. I enjoyed it quite a bit. Most of the videos were about 30 minutes long and I'm sure to watch more. He has an entry in Wikipedia and he is a physicist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Arthur.

    Cheers,

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    My main issue with Isaac Arthur is that I’m familiar with nearly every idea I’ve seen him present, and the graphics he uses are also usually from some other source that I’ve seen as well. If the ideas are new to you, I can see the episodes being more interesting. He also represents the extreme optimist futurist position. I think there is a place for that (goodness knows I get tired of the extreme pessimism position that seems so common these days, so a change is refreshing) but I tend to be more in the region of mild optimism.

    He does have a pretty good gimmick there and from his viewer stats I bet he got a fair amount of money for it. I wish I had thought of it first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    My main issue with Isaac Arthur is that I’m familiar with nearly every idea I’ve seen him present, and the graphics he uses are also usually from some other source that I’ve seen as well. If the ideas are new to you, I can see the episodes being more interesting. He also represents the extreme optimist futurist position. I think there is a place for that (goodness knows I get tired of the extreme pessimism position that seems so common these days, so a change is refreshing) but I tend to be more in the region of mild optimism.

    He does have a pretty good gimmick there and from his viewer stats I bet he got a fair amount of money for it. I wish I had thought of it first.
    I suppose I can't say the ideas were new per se but he has a series of these 30ish minute videos exploring different aspects of the Fermi paradox so he does go into more nitty gritty than most. While he seems to me satisfactorily analytical, your comment about his positive outlook is right on. I'm not sure what you mean by extreme but I guess if I watch 'Creating a Sense of Purpose in a Post-Scarcity Society' I'll know. Lol.

    Cheers,

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    I suppose I can't say the ideas were new per se but he has a series of these 30ish minute videos exploring different aspects of the Fermi paradox so he does go into more nitty gritty than most. While he seems to me satisfactorily analytical, your comment about his positive outlook is right on. I'm not sure what you mean by extreme but I guess if I watch 'Creating a Sense of Purpose in a Post-Scarcity Society' I'll know. Lol.
    Is “Creating a Sense of Purpose in a Post-Scarcity Society” the title of one his episodes? If so, that would be an example of extreme optimism. The only way not to have scarcity is if you have infinite resources, and there is no evidence that is possible. Having much greater accessible resources than present does not get you to “post-scarcity” because there are still limits and still ways to hit limits (for example, exponential population growth can use up ridiculously massive resources in a fairly short time).

    But also, I was thinking of an episode discussing star lifting and large scale transmutation, and I didn’t see where he pointed out this was getting into extremely speculative territory. I also don’t recall where he mentioned the downside of using this kind of technology - basically, an exponentially growing civilization could use up their stars in a fairly short time period, and then what do they do? It would make more sense to limit growth and keep the stars.

    On SETI, I’ve read so much about it, been in so many discussions about it, and done so much of my own speculation, I very rarely see a new idea. I watched a bit of his shows on it, and it was all pretty unremarkable.

    But I’m not knocking his shows, they just aren’t for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    Is “Creating a Sense of Purpose in a Post-Scarcity Society” the title of one his episodes? If so, that would be an example of extreme optimism. The only way not to have scarcity is if you have infinite resources, and there is no evidence that is possible. Having much greater accessible resources than present does not get you to “post-scarcity” because there are still limits and still ways to hit limits (for example, exponential population growth can use up ridiculously massive resources in a fairly short time).

    But also, I was thinking of an episode discussing star lifting and large scale transmutation, and I didn’t see where he pointed out this was getting into extremely speculative territory. I also don’t recall where he mentioned the downside of using this kind of technology - basically, an exponentially growing civilization could use up their stars in a fairly short time period, and then what do they do? It would make more sense to limit growth and keep the stars.

    On SETI, I’ve read so much about it, been in so many discussions about it, and done so much of my own speculation, I very rarely see a new idea. I watched a bit of his shows on it, and it was all pretty unremarkable.

    But I’m not knocking his shows, they just aren’t for me.
    Hi again Van Rijn,

    In his video discussing 'star lifting', (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzuHxL5FD5U), a big point is that it actually extends the life of the star. As he explains, you use solar material to build a Dyson Cloud. Loss of mass causes the star to dim and extends its lifespan. Well before you reach the point when the radiant energy just meets the needs of the growing number of space habitats, you stop the process and you might get 50 billion years vs. less than 10.

    I hope your concern about using up stars is allayed by above. If not, consider it is estimated the Milky Way's mass is 0.8 to 1.5 billion Solar Masses, distributed over 100-400 billion stars. If you still have not changed your mind, also consider how it is all free energy/mass radiating away. There is no waste. There would surely be a measurement of efficiency but the resultant heat will radiate out to space as it would have, but mow more in the infrared.

    I've watched about 20 of his videos so far. They are great. As you state, much of it is very speculative and I don't necessarily agree with all his assumptions, which he generally lays out. In the discussed video, he actually advises watching prior entries in his mega-structure series to get better context.

    Two thumbs up from me!

    YMMV

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    Hi again Van Rijn,

    In his video discussing 'star lifting', (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzuHxL5FD5U), a big point is that it actually extends the life of the star. As he explains, you use solar material to build a Dyson Cloud. Loss of mass causes the star to dim and extends its lifespan. Well before you reach the point when the radiant energy just meets the needs of the growing number of space habitats, you stop the process and you might get 50 billion years vs. less than 10.

    I hope your concern about using up stars is allayed by above. If not, consider it is estimated the Milky Way's mass is 0.8 to 1.5 billion Solar Masses, distributed over 100-400 billion stars.
    No it doesn’t and I’ve heard those arguments before. Three things. Extending the life of a star with star lifting isn’t that straightforward. It depends on what’s left. But more importantly, an exponentially growing civilization faced with finite limits must find a point to stop growing if it doesn’t want to face eventual collapse. The star represents the vast majority of mass in a solar system, so if that is used up, there’s nothing left. If a civilization couldn’t stop growing earlier, I doubt they would be able to stop after they just used up part of a star. And finally, exponential growth has a way of rapidly hitting any finite limits, even if they seem large in absolute terms. 400 billion stars doesn’t mean much more than one star against exponential growth. Actually, the speed of light would be a bigger limiting factor in slowing maximum possible growth speed in a galaxy.

    If you still have not changed your mind, also consider how it is all free energy/mass radiating away. There is no waste. There would surely be a measurement of efficiency but the resultant heat will radiate out to space as it would have, but mow more in the infrared.
    You’re forgetting that part of the argument is transmuting much of the lifted hydrogen and helium to other elements to make more people and space habitats. That dramatically increases the total waste energy produced and permanently reduces the hydrogen available for energy production.

    I've watched about 20 of his videos so far. They are great. As you state, much of it is very speculative and I don't necessarily agree with all his assumptions, which he generally lays out. In the discussed video, he actually advises watching prior entries in his mega-structure series to get better context.

    Two thumbs up from me!

    YMMV
    I think it really depends on how familiar you are with the ideas. A lot of this stuff is old hat for me. I first ran into the idea of star lifting in 1986, from my copy of Interstellar Migration and the Human Experience. David R. Criswell’s section is about the most interesting part of the book.

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    The whole content creation thing seems to be getting more difficult, for example you build something a 'futurism' discussion channel, Outer Space Colony, the Neo-Futurist it could be work at the start, maybe betetr if you had a name Gerd Leonhard, Robert Zubrin, Jim Carroll, Gray Scott, Michael Rogers, Dr. Michio Kaku you are probably fine and will have enough work and reputation to back yourself up but could even people like this get copyright strike in error or you have an established 'brand' a movie tv magazine brand or Clarkesworld Magazine could they still ban and censor you over some error claimed?
    Building your own creative content? So what happens if you don't take copyrighted content from a video game, you don't use an illustration on an Isaac Asimov book you don't use art painting on some Frankenstein novel? so what happens if you don't use some artists work from a tv show or movie, what happens if you use public open source music for example? You do all the art and music yourself, for example the scifi Short Film channel Dust has all its own content, you write your own theme tune or songs, your own art and your own sound fx...could they still claim your channel or 'copyright' you

    and what is 'Fair-Use'?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7cscb View Post
    I suppose I can't say the ideas were new per se but he has a series of these 30ish minute videos exploring different aspects of the Fermi paradox so he does go into more nitty gritty than most.
    He doesnt seem to be the best public speaker but some of the work is very satisfying, I think he's a valuable resource even if his work can be very sci-fi ish fantasy like.


    Quote Originally Posted by Van Rijn View Post
    My main issue with Isaac Arthur is that I’m familiar with nearly every idea I’ve seen him present, and the graphics he uses are also usually from some other source that I’ve seen as well.
    I believe that could be his issue with social media channels, how much material you can legally use and if youtube can ban your channel because not all of the material used in the channel is your own work.
    There are other social media alternatives out there, twitter has scifi, artist and science stuff for browsing, agency like NASA have accounts on twitter but the posts are always short and the videos small. Dailymotion and Vimeo offer an alternative social media channel, I believe Vimeo to be more artist, writer, creator based. From what I understand is Patreon is a big 'funding' site one of the big content funder sites, youtube is probably the biggest social media site while facebook and twitter and others have lost ground. If you got your channel striked for a reason I believe it could still be saved on another old school site like blospot or wordress or the Internet Archives Video Section. Medium and Minds have social media blogger platforms, Flickr allows photography and illustrations and Astro-photography. Metacafe and Veoh were once tipped to be the next big youtube but they seem to have lots of spam, maybe censorship of content would be a good thing afterall? I'm not sure about TikTok but it has become the go-to platform for some. There are also crowd funding a kickstarter websites, like Patreon or Alternatives that allow funding or Monetizing for a creators channel, Kickstarter, Indiegogo and sites like Rockethub dot com and other smaller websites like GoFundMe, Fundable, Ulule, Fundly, Pozible? Qurikily? Plumfund, HeightsPaltform, Ko-fi, Anchor, or Tribe or 'Buy Me a Coffee'...although some of these sites seem to be more product business orientated rather than funders of media film / science content. Periscope and Twitch seem to do livestreams but they are more 'video game' culture I wonder Could all these science scifi channels survive if they were removed from youtube or got censored for copyright issues? A wise person would at least back up their channel on another 2 or 3 platforms.

    Some sites are monitored by a sort of machine of scanners, the music record companies scan for notes and sound frequency, they scan for a melody or chords, there are bots from movie studies and programs that scan for content a certain image or film shot that might be copyrighted. If you have to illustrate an idea like a colony-spaceship or a space elevator it becomes very difficult even if you are a skilled artist, the whole thing becomes very time consuming and people are expected to upload every week perhaps even every day to keep the same level of shares and likes and ads and viewers. Creation of new content for viewer every week, it's like you enter this arms race of sorts with other social media content creators.

    Can they ban you for stuff unfairly?

    Piano teacher gets claim on her social media channel for playing Moonlight Sonata and is quitting Youtube after almost 5 years.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcyOxtkafMs
    Moonlight Sonata was completed in 1801 its been public artist work for many many many years, copyright claim a Beethoven song?
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    IsaacArthur collection of exploration vids on bit chute &lt;&lt; one word

    She should win her dispute. The claimant has a false claim; they cant claim copyright to a work in the public domain, no matter how they label the work.

    As for being difficult to create content without acquiring reuse rights, well, nobody ever said this would be easy. It’s part of the creative process, like it or not.

    ETA: ah, i see. It’s a bot war:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...outputType=amp

    Copyright bots and classical musicians are fighting online. The bots are winning.
    <snip>
    As covid-19 forces more and more classical musicians and organizations to shift operations to the Internet, they’re having to contend with an entirely different but equally faceless adversary: copyright bots. Or, more accurately, content identification algorithms dispatched across social media to scan content and detect illegal use of copyrighted recordings. You’ve encountered these bots in the wild if you’ve ever had a workout video or living room lip-sync blocked or muted for ambient inclusion or flagrant use of Britney or Bruce. But who owns Brahms?

    These oft-overzealous algorithms are particularly fine-tuned for the job of sniffing out the sonic idiosyncrasies of pop music, having been trained on massive troves of “reference” audio files submitted by record companies and performing rights societies. But classical musicians are discovering en masse that the perceptivity of automated copyright systems falls critically short when it comes to classical music, which presents unique challenges both in terms of content and context. After all, classical music exists as a vast, endlessly revisited and repeated repertoire of public-domain works distinguishable only through nuanced variations in performance. Put simply, bots aren’t great listeners.
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