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    Quote Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
    Ok thank you very much!
    Equivalence of mass and energy. It's been a thing since 1905.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grant hutchison View Post
    Equivalence of mass and energy. It's been a thing since 1905.

    Grant Hutchison
    So my understanding is matter / gravitons are just an equilibrum state of the electro-magnetic force and there's nothing magical about it.

    (If so then in theory we could go on and convert gravitons back into matter...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
    So my understanding is matter / gravitons are just an equilibrum state of the electro-magnetic force and there's nothing magical about it.

    (If so then in theory we could go on and convert gravitons back into matter...)
    Your understanding is not an accurate picture of the theories out there. Gravitons have nothing to do with the electroweak force. Mass/matter can be created from energy via strong and weak interactions too. As Grant says Mass and Energy are interconvertible. There is nothing particularly special about electromagnetic effects with regard to mass/energy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philippeb8 View Post
    So my understanding is matter / gravitons are just an equilibrum state of the electro-magnetic force and there's nothing magical about it.

    (If so then in theory we could go on and convert gravitons back into matter...)
    Matter and "gravitons" are not the same thing.

    Gravitons are a purely hypothetical particle. We would need both a solid quantum theory of gravity (which we don't) and an observation of some sort indicating that gravitons exist (which we haven't), in order to make specific assertions about them. We know how particles and antiparticles work, we don't know how gravity works at the fundamental level. We can only estimate gravity's effects, not its mechanism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noclevername View Post
    Matter and "gravitons" are not the same thing.

    Gravitons are a purely hypothetical particle. We would need both a solid quantum theory of gravity (which we don't) and an observation of some sort indicating that gravitons exist (which we haven't), in order to make specific assertions about them. We know how particles and antiparticles work, we don't know how gravity works at the fundamental level. We can only estimate gravity's effects, not its mechanism.
    Even in the mainstream, gravitons are "highly" likely:
    https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...0/1/012086/pdf

    https://physics.aps.org/articles/v13/s33

    But anyway I understand now, thanks everybody.

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