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    Pronunciation of Kuiper ?

    what is the proper pronunciation of Kuiper?




    almost all of my Astronomy knowledge came from reading. While that is great for accumulating knowledge it's not so great for pronunciations. My internal monologue often "says" things incorrectly.



    For that matter


    how do YOU pronounce


    Sirius
    Cepheid
    Cassiopeia



    any others?
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    I hear people say KI-PER, as in "Kite".

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    what is the proper pronunciation of Kuiper? Almost all of my Astronomy knowledge came from reading. While that is great for accumulating knowledge it's not so great for pronunciations. My internal monologue often "says" things incorrectly.
    As Argos said, KY-per.
    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    For that matter, how do YOU pronounce:

    Sirius?
    I usually say "serious", but it probably should be SIR-ee-us.
    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    Cepheid
    SEFF-ee-id. I used to say SEEF-ee-id until I learned better.
    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    Cassiopeia
    I'm pretty sure it's CASS-ee-oh-PAY-uh.

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    how about this




    KY-per
    Seer-us
    ceff-ee-id
    cass-ee-o-pee-a



    it's definitly not cass-ee-oh-pay-uh in the states.
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    Kuiper is a Dutch name. I don't know how I possibly can explain you how to pronounce it.

    I am looking for English words that sound like "Kuiper" but it's not really possible.

    The last part is "pur" like cats do , only you are allowed to pronounce the "r". Though in some parts of the Netherlands, you don't really hear the "r".

    The "kui" is a lot more difficult to explain...
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    I always thought it was like 'viper' but with a 'k' instead of a 'v'.

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    I thought it was something like "kway-pur".

    And here's another one: app-ochromatic or ape-ochromatic?

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    There was a thread about this in the BABB, but it seems to have been pruned. Although Mr. Kuiper was originally Dutch, after he had immigrated to America he adopted the English pronunciation for his name: "Kai-per", rhyming with Kaiser.

    Wikipedia entry.

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    Oh, that might be very well possible. But anyway, the original Dutch pronunciation does not use the "ai" sound from Kaiser at all. It uses a sound that isn't used in English as far as I know. Though the way the i in kaiser is pronounced is the same as the i is pronounced in the Dutch Kuiper. In Flemish however, you don't hear the i that well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas
    Kuiper is a Dutch name. I don't know how I possibly can explain you how to pronounce it.

    I am looking for English words that sound like "Kuiper" but it's not really possible.

    The last part is "pur" like cats do , only you are allowed to pronounce the "r". Though in some parts of the Netherlands, you don't really hear the "r".

    The "kui" is a lot more difficult to explain...
    I don't think the kui exists in any english word... they seem to have problem with my name too... especialy my last name.

    Someone with a microphone should record it

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    "schrauwen" that must be impossible indeed.

    Try to explain the difference between the flat Flemish "Kuiper" and the double sounded i-stressed "Kuiper" used in the Netherlands to someone who hasn't got a clue of either sound .
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    wow, interesting discussion.

    for now I'll call it Ky-per

    like hyper



    but that's until I meet a real Dutchman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicolas
    Kuiper is a Dutch name. I don't know how I possibly can explain you how to pronounce it.

    I am looking for English words that sound like "Kuiper" but it's not really possible.

    The last part is "pur" like cats do , only you are allowed to pronounce the "r". Though in some parts of the Netherlands, you don't really hear the "r".

    The "kui" is a lot more difficult to explain...
    I would have thought, from Dutch, it would be Cooper.

    Use of "Spanish", I would think something like Keeper.

    I always pronounce it like Kiper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy
    I would have thought, from Dutch, it would be Cooper.

    that's how I pronounced it in my head until someone spoke the name around me. it seemed strange having always thought it was Cooper.
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    I always say Orion wrong. In my head, it should be Or-e-on.

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    or-e-on isn't right



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    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    or-e-on isn't right



    I know. Try telling my brain that, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosscountry
    For that matter


    how do YOU pronounce Cepheid
    I've always pronounced it "Seffid".

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    SOmeone suggested kipper, but I suspect that was a red herring.

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    Back when I was wondering about the different pronunciations of Huygens (Cassini-What?), I found a site that has MP3s of the presumably authentic Dutch pronunciations of famous names.

    Kuiper is in this MP3 of Brouwer-Kuiper-Escher-Zeeman-Lorentz
    0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101001
    It almost sounds as if he is saying Kelper (with the L being silent as you speak it).

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    I don't care if these are wrong or not, but these are the pronounciations I've always used:

    Kuiper
    Cooper

    Sirius
    SIR-ee-us

    Cepheid
    SAY-fid

    Cassiopeia
    KASS-ee-oh-pea-ah

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101001
    Back when I was wondering about the different pronunciations of Huygens (Cassini-What?), I found a site that has MP3s of the presumably authentic Dutch pronunciations of famous names.

    Kuiper is in this MP3 of Brouwer-Kuiper-Escher-Zeeman-Lorentz
    These are the correct Dutch pronunciations.

    In Flemish, you wouldn't hear the "i" beforethe "p" that much. But you'd hear the "r" at the end better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01101001
    Back when I was wondering about the different pronunciations of Huygens (Cassini-What?), I found a site that has MP3s of the presumably authentic Dutch pronunciations of famous names.

    Kuiper is in this MP3 of Brouwer-Kuiper-Escher-Zeeman-Lorentz


    wow, thanks for the link.
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    Kuiper.

    Pronounce the "ui" kind of like the "oy" from "oy vee" or the "oi" from "oink." Just keep the inside of you mouth a little wider open, as if you had a ping pong ball in your mouth.

    That should give you a sound something like the Dutch pronunciation.

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    KI-per

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    as in "goal keeper"?
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    I would spell it 'KY-per' but that would be too slick...

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    There are two unrelated MLB announcers out there, with Kuiper as a last name. Both pronounce Kye - per

    not that name pronunciation in professional sports means anything... Favre?

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    I've heard it pronounced coy-per.

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