Results 1 to 15 of 15

Thread: Do they really think the earth is flat?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Posts
    7,249

    Do they really think the earth is flat?

    I saw this on the BBC website

    In the 21st Century, the term "flat-earther" is used to describe someone who is spectacularly - and seemingly wilfully - ignorant. But there is a group of people who claim they believe the planet really is flat. Are they really out there or is it all an elaborate prank?

    Nasa is celebrating its 50th birthday with much fanfare and pictures of past glories. But in half a century of extraordinary images of space, one stands out.

    On 24 December 1968, the crew of the Apollo 8 mission took a photo now known as Earthrise. To many, this beautiful blue sphere viewed from the moon's orbit is a perfect visual summary of why it is right to strive to go into space.

    Not to everybody though. There are people who say they think this image is fake - part of a worldwide conspiracy by space agencies, governments and scientists.

    Welcome to the world of the flat-earther.
    Can not find the advert the article references

    I do remember one, many years ago which was an advert for a cigar, where the captain of the sailing vessel refuses to turn back because he does not follow his sailors belief that the world is flat, and is convinced it is round. Suddenly the lookout shouts that they are at the edge of the world, and it is flat. So the captain lights the cigar and we follow him as the ship is swept by the currents off of the edge of the world.

    Later there was an advert for a chocolate bar where they played on the myth that the ancients thought the world was flat.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    130
    Well, for a lot of purposes saying the world is flat seems like a very good approximation, indeed. Unless you are working with space travel, long distance travel, meteorology, radio communication, or anything "large scale", then the shape of the Earth could just as well be flat. You don't take the curvature of the Earth into account when building a house or baking a pizza.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    3,767
    Sunset and Sunrise are a 'local' event. The FE guys suggest that the sun doesn't set, it just gets smaller until you can't see it anymore.

    Even on a small, human, caveman scale - the fact that you can't see anothe tribe marching towards your camp to slaughter you until they're a couple of miles away...(because of the curvature of the Earth). Tides, caused by the rotation of a round Earth with a moon orbiting it, are a local phenomenon.

    I become part of the conspiracy with a bit of luck on Sat - I've prepared the camera payload for a high altitude balloon flight. 100,000ft+ with some luck - which is enough to see the curvature of the Earth - so clearly I'll be photoshopping every image to make sure it's in there

    I'm worried though - that even though the water is kept in the southern ocean by the big ice wall they claim is protected by the military, what stops the atmosphere falling out? Our balloon might get to 40,000ft and then, poof - no more air, it all fell off the edge of the 'planet'.

    Apollo Hoaxers, I can understand, to some extent ( although I disagree with, in the strongest terms ) why they think what they do.

    Flat Earthers, however, I can not even begin to comprehend.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    N.E.Ohio
    Posts
    22,006
    Quote Originally Posted by djellison View Post
    I'm worried though - that even though the water is kept in the southern ocean by the big ice wall they claim is protected by the military, what stops the atmosphere falling out?
    It's a very TALL wall, jeesh.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Posts
    1,370
    Any theory that requires a massive, worldwide conspiracy to hold it up is 100% wrong. Someone's gonna squeak.

    - Maha "flat-brained" Vailo

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    1,213
    I rather suspect that there are no real flat-earthers, only people who find it amusing to pretend that they are flat-earthers.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Posts
    4,985
    Quote Originally Posted by Sticks View Post
    I saw this on the BBC website



    Can not find the advert the article references

    I do remember one, many years ago which was an advert for a cigar, where the captain of the sailing vessel refuses to turn back because he does not follow his sailors belief that the world is flat, and is convinced it is round. Suddenly the lookout shouts that they are at the edge of the world, and it is flat. So the captain lights the cigar and we follow him as the ship is swept by the currents off of the edge of the world.

    Later there was an advert for a chocolate bar where they played on the myth that the ancients thought the world was flat.
    if the currents go off the edge of the world, then where does all the new water come from? surely, the oceans should have run out of water by now- i mean, the earth is 6,000 years old, after all...

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    2,541
    Quote Originally Posted by novaderrik View Post
    if the currents go off the edge of the world, then where does all the new water come from? surely, the oceans should have run out of water by now- i mean, the earth is 6,000 years old, after all...
    Arrangements are made.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Posts
    673
    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasJ View Post
    Arrangements are made.
    Heh

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    1,151
    Come on, who have you been talking to? God makes more.

    You know, separating the waters from the waters and all that. When the underground basins run dry he just zaps some more in.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    455
    Back in the sixties, there was a story in "Analog" (maybe by Harry Turtledove?) about the first voyage of Columbus. They had the beginnings of modern technology, but with medieval explanations. They had CW radio, but the monk who ran it explained that CW stood for "Cherubim Wing length"; the longer the wing, the greater the range.
    The story ends as they sail over the edge of the world.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    586
    I think there are very, very few true flat earthers and they only believe it because they think their religion requires the earth to be flat. I think if you can truly believe that the earth is flat despite everything you've been taught, then you'll have an easier time believing that everyone who proves otherwise is part of a conspiracy that's out to get you - conspiracies involving worldwide participation are pretty common, this is just the most extreme example. I'd love to see a reasonable explanation by a flat earther for why the sun doesn't change apparent size throughout the day and into sunset as it's supposed to "get smaller until you can't see it anymore" - any white light filtered telescope can show you that.

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    15,801
    Quote Originally Posted by novaderrik View Post
    if the currents go off the edge of the world, then where does all the new water come from?
    From the rivers.

    And before you ask: from the rain.

    And before you ask: from the currents that go off the edge of the world.
    0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 ...
    Skepticism enables us to distinguish fancy from fact, to test our speculations. --Carl Sagan

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    10,950
    Where are the Crimson assurance pirates now?
    Measure once, cut twice. Practice makes perfect.
    Why is a frog too?

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Newton Aycliffe. UK.
    Posts
    21,687
    Hi sticks, I have found the advert for you, it is about a 1/3 of the way through, but I'm sure you will enjoy watching the whole lot, it brought a load of memories back.

    Hamlet
    The real art of conversation is not only saying the right thing at the right moment but also to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the most tempting moment. -- unknown

Similar Threads

  1. Flat Earth
    By Lepton in forum Conspiracy Theories
    Replies: 104
    Last Post: 2019-Aug-23, 02:05 PM
  2. Flat earth
    By parallaxicality in forum Off-Topic Babbling
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: 2007-Apr-23, 02:55 PM
  3. The Earth is flat!
    By Lam in forum Off-Topic Babbling
    Replies: 75
    Last Post: 2005-Aug-11, 05:51 PM
  4. The earth is Flat!!!
    By g99 in forum Against the Mainstream
    Replies: 97
    Last Post: 2003-Mar-31, 05:17 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •